TMG is used for healthy methylation which maintains normal levels of homocysteine but why is it added to some sports drinks When you look at some of the ingredients this seems to stand out and curious to know why its there.
I take this stuff for liver health, I need to look into bulk powders though because i think its going to be a staple along with my nac!
SAN Dr Feel Good has a healthy dose of NAC (and DMG).I take this stuff for liver health, I need to look into bulk powders though because i think its going to be a staple along with my nac!
Maybe down the road- people just don't seem to like non-stim pre-wo's that much, unfortunatelythanks guys= could we have a caffeine free version of lit -up?
I agree. I don't normally like stims before my workout..and if I do use anything, I like to regulate my own amount as opposed to the manufacturer choosing how much to put in a serving size. It gives me alot more flexibility to be able to take a pre workout shake, and then decide how much, if any, stimulants I want to use along with it. I'm sure alot of people like stimulants included in a drink, but I dont and it's actually kind of a pet peeve lol. I actually tend to avoid pre workout shakes that have stimulants included.there musy be a need
How many mgs bro?Thats what I do - it's tasteless.
Arachidonic acid pre-workout is excellent. Hard to flavor I hear.You guys definitely raise valid points- I have been formulating products for six years, first for USP Labs (I was the co-founder with Jacob, formulation was a dual role when I was there), and now for Applied (which I co-own), and I have gotten numerous requests for a product like this. These requests were why I developed Drive (with some help from Bioman, who used to be a mod on AM) in the first place- as a non-stimulant alternative to RPM. Drive works great as a pre-workout, but I wouldn't suggest busting the capsules open to make it a shake (very nasty), LOL.
When you think of a decent stim-free pre-workout, what would you like to see? DMG and TMG obviously come to mind, because they do have some decent energetic effects without being a conventional stimulant. Lit-Up w/o the stim content would actually work fairly well for this purpose- maybe something to think about in the future. Lower dose carnitines are also good for this, and huperzine-A is a good choice as well. I would try to stay away from herbals in a drink mix as much as possible- it has to be palatable for everyone- nobody wants to take something that tastes like ****, no matter how well it works. DMAE is a good choice as well- it has been shown to increase cognitive blood flow substantially. You would almost want to take a nootropic approach to this formulation- focus without overstimulation. Something like a piracetam or aniracetam comes to mind, but they are being closely watched by the US FDA at the moment, so they would be out.
What do you guys think would make a good non-stim pre-workout?
How many mgs bro?
Arachidonic acid pre-workout is excellent. Hard to flavor I hear.
I use taurine as well, prolly too much. 2g in AM, 5g PWO, 2g PM. I need to order some more bulk powders this week, so TMG is on my list! Thanks bro, really appreciate it!The stuff is cheap so I use 4-5 grams a day
Anything to lower homocysteine values (lower CVD risk) is invaluable. For me, this (along with CRP; C-reactive protein) are better indicators of cardiovascular risk/health than lipid profiles all day long.
I simply dump one 1/2 teaspoon 1.5 grams in 3 shakes per day (am, mid mornign and pm) - one of which is simply my BCAA peri-workout mix (so 4.5 grams daily)
Overkill? Probably LOL but it's cheap.
I do the same with Taurine as sadly, that is another UN-SEXY supplemnent that gets no no credit and it barely discussed.
It is also tasteless and CHEAP. I use it similarly, all day long to ensure levels are adequate/replenished.
For a bodybuilder or endurance athlete, Taurine should be a staple. Read about it's benefits.
Sorry - rant over.
That would be a pretty good combo- I would low dose the choline and ALCAR- they both increase ACh levels, and too much ACh can be inhibitory. I like vinpo for its PDE-inhibiting qualities, plus it is good for ATP production....Some ALCAR,NAT,Choline Bitartrate,and Vinpocetine could get the non-stim version a boost
Same here for my old joints!I like AA as well- but it gives joint pain every time I try to run it. I usually can tolerate it for about 3 weeks or so, and then I have stop....
Dosing amount is your specialty!!That would be a pretty good combo- I would low dose the choline and ALCAR- they both increase ACh levels, and too much ACh can be inhibitory. I like vinpo for its PDE-inhibiting qualities, plus it is good for ATP production....
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