The reality that people doesn't educate themselves enough

[Yodambomb]

Hey so I'm about to talk about the reality of prohormones from doing all my reasearch and experience . So I've done 2 single compound cycles in the past and didn't feel that bad on em , got some good size and lost it quick . So I just figured that I didn't eat or lift hard enough on my post cycle . So about a year ago I did a double stack of something like hexobol with tren . And I started reading online about it and people were talking about how it gives them the trensomnia and the night sweats . So at that point I realized that I hadn't slept well in the last couple nights . Then the article was talking about the rapid heart beats and the loss of air people said they were getting , so I freaked out and went to the ER . Turned out that heart rate was a little up and tiny but of liver enzymes that recovered in like two days . But regardless I talked to this guy and he said to take lots of vitamins along side of any cycle and also take TuDca , enzyme reversal medicine basically . So anyways yesterday I was exactly three weeks into my spawn cycle And the side affects are just knowing and feeling how much my body is **** right now . I've been kinda peranoid because my BP is around 150ish/80-90 range and the pharmacist tell me that it's just borderline high so I figured no matter how many supps you take it's almost impossible to have perfect Blood pressure on a cycle . So again yesterday i realized that I must have the clomid or Nolva ( the doctor prescription ) which I don't even know if a doctor would prescribe it for a post cycle. So I was reading online about other forums on here I think it was and everyone was saying that no pH should ever be ran without testosterone ! " what ! " holy **** ! Exuse my language . I never would have guess and it only makes sense . Prohormones nor steroids convert into testosterone and that's why people testosterone gets shut down during cycles and that's why people get the bad side effects from steroids or prohormones . Why isn't our government educated on this stuff ? Selling prohormones and not properly educating our consumers is just depopulating the planet so it seems... Any feed back guys ? I'm just finding this out for myself and feel dumb and scammed basically I know that I'll be alright health wise in about a week hopefully . I just stopped the spawn today and still taking the natural post cycle and on supps and vitamins , so hopefully on Friday the doctor won't say my LH (natural test ) is super low and that everything else with restore quick .

 

[ion26]

You don't need a test base for every PH cycle...a lot of people don't actually. Just go to a research chem site and buy some Nolva or Clomid. No need to panic...

Edit: lol do you think everyone is getting their SERMs from an actual doctor?

 

[technique88]

It's YOUR responsibility to educate yourself dude, not the government. These prohormones are legal because they have not brought a lot if attention from the FDA. Many prohormones and DS eventually get banned because the government finds out.

Are they OTC, yes, but it doesn't come with a how to manual. That's where research comes into play. Don't mess with anything unless you know what you Re getting into. If you rushed to the ER because of elevated HR, then I'm sorry my friend, you were not ready to start a cycle.

Continue your PCT, hit the books agains and thoroughly understand what you are getting into. It maybe steroids may not be for you. Everyone is different.

 

[Touey]

The key to education starts with proper use of grammar and sentence structure.

he give me a pass though

 

[Yodambomb]

Yeah I know that I don't have good sentence structure man lol . And yeah I've done pHs with out even post cycling and just a little lethargic at the most for about a week or so . Basically I know that I'm going to be fine man but at the same time I know that's bad for you and it doesn't make sense to do something even more unhealthy than a steroid with out getting any where near the same affects ...

 

[rphash49]

no pH should ever be ran without testosterone ! " what ! " holy **** ! Exuse my language . I never would have guess and it only makes sense . Prohormones nor steroids convert into testosterone and that's why people testosterone gets shut down during cycles and that's why people get the bad side effects from steroids or prohormones . Why isn't our government educated on this stuff ? Selling prohormones and not properly educating our consumers is just depopulating the planet so it seems...

This is all wrong. Your natural test production will shut down regardless if you use testosterone or not.

Wtf-why would the government force ph/ds education????? Lmao you are joking right? If ph/ds companies educated consumers on proper pct we would not have any ph/ds companies. FDA would be all over that.

I will say a large percentage of people use ph/ds and have no fuking idea what they are doing

 

[Yodambomb]

Your right . I just thought that I wasn't doing the prohormone right last time but this time I had quit because of what I found out about the test base

 

[Yodambomb]

Exactly I had no idea what I was doing and I've been doing my reading ever since the first time I tried one a few years back .. I just didn't read swap enough

 

[thehogsters]

You dont have to have a test base. It shure makes it better. Get some trest, its almost just like using test but in a pill. I love it.

 

[Yodambomb]

I have no idea what you mean ? Trest ?

 

[thehogsters]

Trestabolan or trest ace.

 

[Yodambomb]

It's not comming up on the internet . Only testabolin was and that's a natural test booster I think

 

[Yodambomb]

Yeah it doesn't come up as that . It comes up as testobolin

 

[chris223]

This thread should be removed for being excessively stupid.

 

[Yodambomb]

Why is it stupid ? Should people share there knowledge with the world ?

 

[TaylorSwift]

I'm dumber for having read that.

Also, you sound like you're pretty baked right now (srs)

 

[Yodambomb]

I just donno why you think it is ? I just want understand and to realize reality man

 

[Touey]

 

[thehogsters]

Sorry it's trestobol by Celtic Labs.

 

[Yodambomb]

Yeah that's just Halodrol . But your right , it is affect and I don't think it spikes your blood pressure up all that compared to the other ones . Because that was the first one that I ever did like 3 years back . And I didn't even post cycle so I lost my gains . But I put on some good size tho

 

[Yodambomb]

And from what I've read Halodrol is the most mild on affects and same with max-lmg (tren-13 ethyl ) . But it seems that prohormones are a waste of time unless you have " everything " that you need . Bottom line

 

[McCrew530]

And from what I've read Halodrol is the most mild on affects and same with max-lmg (tren-13 ethyl ) . But it seems that prohormones are a waste of time unless you have " everything " that you need . Bottom line

Yep that’s kind of the way they work but it is true for just about everything hell you cant build muscle with only 1 amino acid you cant drive a car with all the pieces. People think PCT is just an extra when the reality it is a critical final step.

 

[Yodambomb]

Damn ! It's sucks that I didn't get the Nolva . But is it actually true about running test with your PH makes yoi not notice or get the sides as hard ? I mean I get everybody's point that it's not required but from what I've read and from what everybody has said on here it sounds like it's " highly " recommended .

 

[McCrew530]

It does help for sure.

 

[Piston Honda]

Why is it stupid ? Should people share there knowledge with the world ?

*their*

 

[McCrew530]

*their*

 

[Piston Honda]

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[McCrew530]

Punctuation is very important as Grandma does not look that tasty.

 

[chris223]

Why is it stupid ? Should people share there knowledge with the world ?

It's good to share knowledge when there is knowledge to share, but you have no knowledge in this area. Sorry to break it to you. You should probably stop using steroids and you should definitely stop trying to teach people about them.

 

[jbryand101b]

I will say a large percentage of people use exogenous hormones and have no fuking idea what they are doing

Fixed andTrue that.

 

[jbryand101b]

It's not comming up on the internet . Only testabolin was and that's a natural test booster I think

Google
7a methyl 19-nor testosterone acetate
Trestolone

 

[KenTheEagle]

Hey so I'm about to talk about the reality of prohormones from doing all my reasearch and experience . So I've done 2 single compound cycles in the past and didn't feel that bad on em , got some good size and lost it quick . So I just figured that I didn't eat or lift hard enough on my post cycle . So about a year ago I did a double stack of something like hexobol with tren . And I started reading online about it and people were talking about how it gives them the trensomnia and the night sweats . So at that point I realized that I hadn't slept well in the last couple nights . Then the article was talking about the rapid heart beats and the loss of air people said they were getting , so I freaked out and went to the ER . Turned out that heart rate was a little up and tiny but of liver enzymes that recovered in like two days . But regardless I talked to this guy and he said to take lots of vitamins along side of any cycle and also take TuDca , enzyme reversal medicine basically . So anyways yesterday I was exactly three weeks into my spawn cycle And the side affects are just knowing and feeling how much my body is **** right now . I've been kinda peranoid because my BP is around 150ish/80-90 range and the pharmacist tell me that it's just borderline high so I figured no matter how many supps you take it's almost impossible to have perfect Blood pressure on a cycle . So again yesterday i realized that I must have the clomid or Nolva ( the doctor prescription ) which I don't even know if a doctor would prescribe it for a post cycle. So I was reading online about other forums on here I think it was and everyone was saying that no pH should ever be ran without testosterone ! " what ! " holy **** ! Exuse my language . I never would have guess and it only makes sense . Prohormones nor steroids convert into testosterone and that's why people testosterone gets shut down during cycles and that's why people get the bad side effects from steroids or prohormones . Why isn't our government educated on this stuff ? Selling prohormones and not properly educating our consumers is just depopulating the planet so it seems... Any feed back guys ? I'm just finding this out for myself and feel dumb and scammed basically I know that I'll be alright health wise in about a week hopefully . I just stopped the spawn today and still taking the natural post cycle and on supps and vitamins , so hopefully on Friday the doctor won't say my LH (natural test ) is super low and that everything else with restore quick .

Troll? SO, how old are you, brah? tell us the truth!

 

[Yodambomb]

24 years old bruh , an. Yeah and I guess your right that I don't know enough to teach people about steroids and your probably right that I don't know anywhere near everything and I probably know very little , considering how much that there is to know to know about em . All I can say is that I know what they do and how they react in your body . As knowing what to do , how to cycle them , yeah more than likely I'm probably clueless like a good majority of people who try them and write all these bad and overly exaggerated experiences about them..

 

[Yodambomb]

It's good to share knowledge when there is knowledge to share, but you have no knowledge in this area. Sorry to break it to you. You should probably stop using steroids and you should definitely stop trying to teach people about them.

Like I said , I don't doubt you . I've just going off what I've read on here and other sites. But those are just opinions probably , not facts..

 

[McCrew530]

Like I said , I don't doubt you . I've just going off what I've read on here and other sites. But those are just opinions probably , not facts..

Hey man don't feel bad. Just be happy that you dodged a bullet and didn't mess your self up bad like some of these guys on here who's first post is help!!!! Is this gyno???? Chalk it up as a learning experience reevaluate continue to do your thing. Just please for the love of god stay out of the medical rooms. That's how we get our supplements banned
Cheers

 

[Yodambomb]

Yeah technically people are supposed get evaluated by there doctors to see if there healthy enough to do the **** in first place but the majority of the people don't because there doctors will just say that they highly don't advise it because they don't know what it is . And I've read on here that a lot of people do there research for years before they try em . That's how much people need to learn before doing em it sounds like . It sounds like you have to be super on point with every support and vitamin with everyday and the same amount and probably every same times in the day . Idk whether the test base **** is true , like I said about the test **** I just gotten off of here . But overall it just sounds like prohormones are so bad for you by themselves compared to test by itself . But like most people said before , it's not for me and I truely believe that because big muscles don't just get handed to you on a platter . You gotta work hard for em , steroids or not .

 

[McCrew530]

Well the saying test is best is true and you are right muscles are earned not given

 

[fame126]

you shouldn't look to the government for anything!!!! they are as corrupt as the politicians who elect them

 

[chris223]

you shouldn't look to the government for anything!!!! they are as corrupt as the politicians who elect them

What??

 

[Touey]

What??

do you know? the politicians elect the govt

 

[johnnybeegood]

it hurt my head to read that. i think it gave me high blood pressure.

 

[Yodambomb]

Idk why I'm getting clowned so hard lol . Yeah I know that I sound like those typical pussies that get overly scared about the sides but I'm trying trying to get people's advice and opinions . I know this isn't the most far out **** ever seen on here

 

[McCrew530]

Idk why I'm getting clowned so hard lol . Yeah I know that I sound like those typical pussies that get overly scared about the sides but I'm trying trying to get people's advice and opinions . I know this isn't the most far out **** ever seen on here

Best bet would be to delete the thread and move on my man. I have a feeling that it is going to turn political here soon and that is never a good thing

 

[Yodambomb]

Yeah I might have started a war by saying the **** about ***** prohormone users , didn't mean it like that . Some people who aren't expierenced or don't know about the sides and freak out a little .

 

[KenTheEagle]

This thread concerns me :/