Davidlee
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I see beginners here everyday,(like me) asking about what cycle would be best for them. Please post a specific cycle and dosage that you prefer here for beginners to see. Thank You! :thanks:
now why would you recommend that when everyone here has told you that it is NOT a good beginner cycle? There is no need for that because as his first cycle he will gain nicely regardless of what he uses.Take Cyclo Bolan Its a H-drol /S-drol stack. Im in my; first cycle ever and im running Cyclo Bolan and let me tell you it is working very good! alot af strenth gains and lean muscle!! Its incredible! just make sure you take supps for your liver like Milk thistle, NAC, and pct.
Well said.now why would you recommend that when everyone here has told you that it is NOT a good beginner cycle? There is no need for that because as his first cycle he will gain nicely regardless of what he uses.
you have no blood work ( and you don't know what you are doing seeing as how you dont know what to use for PCT), so you wouldn't know if its ok or not... and you are the one freaking out about PCT posting everywhere so please inform OP of that too before you recommend and possibly get someone else in trouble.I think there is nothing wrong with using Cyclo Bolan as a first cycle as long as you know what you are doing. If you drink plenty of water and take liver support supps and a proper PCT you should be fine. Also vitamins like B-6 p-5-p and other types of Coenzymes are good too.
plenty of research... but you don't know what to use for PCT? :dunno: Congrats on your progress, but you would have gotten same gains on a less toxic cycle considering it was your first (virgin receptors react great to almost anything)Hey there how bout you twig you only about 165 how much could you deadlift? I actually increased my deadlift. Last night I pumped out 3 sets of 11 at 255 and my squat is now at 215 Im getting swoll as hell of Cyclo Bolan. And I have done plenty of research way before I ever ran this cycle or ever became a member to this site. I know that it may be a bit harsh but with proper supps and plenty of water and PCT you should be fine.
well as rodja stated, are you looking for AAS or PS/DS? That is the first step needed...Not what i was intending when making this post.
well how long have you been working out and why straight to 50mg on the Epistane? It's your first cycle, take it light and easy man... you will gain due to virgin receptors so don't tax your body too bad. Start at 20mg and go from there depending on how you feel.I ordered Epistane today that comes with AI Cycle Support. I plan to take it 30/30/50/50. Do you recommend me take the CS during cycle or after cycle. I'm going to take Nolvadex for PCT. Keep in mind this is my first cycle of any kind ,and I have thought about this carefully.
HAHAHAHAHA. Comparatively, he might actually be bigger than you because of the height difference. I applaud your enthusiasm, but I denounce your position.Hey there how bout you twig you only about 165 how much could you deadlift? I actually increased my deadlift. Last night I pumped out 3 sets of 11 at 255 and my squat is now at 215 Im getting swoll as hell of Cyclo Bolan. And I have done plenty of research way before I ever ran this cycle or ever became a member to this site. I know that it may be a bit harsh but with proper supps and plenty of water and PCT you should be fine.
Hmm... You worked out for months then stopped and now you worked out for about 1 month. I would hold off and try to religiously go to the gym and get your diet perfect before you start a cycle. I know it is exciting to see what effects you can get from being on cycle but as you have seen from the responses to your post, you want your "virgin receptors" to still be virgin when you hit your natural plateau. You probably still have room to grow naturally.Yeah many online people tell me that, but my rl friend took it that way and gained 21 pounds. he also has been working out alot longer than me. I've worked out for months but stopped. Have only been back into for about 1 month. I'll take it as you advise. how many calories should i take in daily.
Well I would certainly wait a bit longer than a month to of getting back into the game to jump into this.i'm taking the cycle no matter what.. i've done ordered it and got my mind set on it.. I've been dieting strictly for a while now, HIIT daily, i'm working from home until next semester so i have plenty of time on my hands to do what ever is needed.. i need a good cycle workout is what i need. If you all are just going to tell me not to then seems i have wasted my time making this post.
If you lift only off and on, then you will not get the results you desire. You have a weak foundation and that is the most important part. Also, you are too young to even think abut using AAS. This is a marathon, not a sprint.im 20 I have lifted on and off for years, stopped this past year of college and have only been back into it for a month, im outta shape and have a high percent of body fat... how long do you say i wait? im not waiting till september.. thats ridiculous.. i know people who started lifting and in the same month took deca and turned out great. please dont take my comments as disrespect either.. i know your all trying to help.. but im a little guy who can only get cut.. not bulk. I am also tired of my strict diet and was waiting to take epi so i could quit starving my selfs of good meats..
In all fairness, you come to a board without reading the rules and then proceed to ignore all the advice given to you. That is not only rude and disrespectful, but arrogant. It is a board rule to not discuss AAS use unless you're 21 and the questions you've asked have shown your novice status. We all start somewhere, but you have more of a recreationalist attitude towards cycling and training in general.okay i see im not going to get the help i was looking for.. thank you for your advice
i may be, but this thread isnt about me. its about getting the OP good advice. and to get that good advice the OP should be warned to not take any advice from somebody who only can DL 225.HAHAHAHAHA. Comparatively, he might actually be bigger than you because of the height difference. I applaud your enthusiasm, but I denounce your position.
Wow, a little sensitive there. I would have thought you took your clomid a little early... but you don't know what clomid is.you could have just left it alone when i said ty but you have to go and say all that trying to instigate an argument.. i asked about my pct and you tell me to bit take it at all.. i did not read the board rules where it said 21 yrs old so thats my fault and i wont be posting on these forums anymore. ty have a nice day
Really!? That's what this thread was about!?i may be, but this thread isnt about me. its about getting the OP good advice. and to get that good advice the OP should be warned to not take any advice from somebody who only can DL 225.
only lifting for 1 month while admitting to not having a diet dialed is not a good foundation for any cycle...let's tackle these first.
could be, i kinda lost track some time agoReally!? That's what this thread was about!?
255 at 178 is not impressive. Good for your friends, but it is not a smart first cycle stillI deadlift 255 buddy and Im only 178 como on bud! Plus I know a couple of cats just like me where I go train MMA at that ran Cyclo Bolan for the first time with proper Supps and they did just fine.
im 20 I have lifted on and off for years, stopped this past year of college and have only been back into it for a month, im outta shape and have a high percent of body fat... how long do you say i wait? im not waiting till september.. thats ridiculous.. i know people who started lifting and in the same month took deca and turned out great. please dont take my comments as disrespect either.. i know your all trying to help.. but im a little guy who can only get cut.. not bulk. I am also tired of my strict diet and was waiting to take epi so i could quit starving my selfs of good meats..
Maybe he's 21 now?Wtf this post is old lol
NahUr first i"d recommend doing a non-methyl or 18 alkaloid for ur first , as its been said , u will grow mate no matter what u take i'd try them before a 17-methyl .