glad the strength is increasing, can't imagine what it's like working out in direct sunlight....that usually zaps my strength so if your able to do it, more power to ya buddy
Yeah ... not loving the sunlight thing. It adds a whole new dimension to the training sessions ... I plan on joining a gym as I mentioned here before ... originally planned just to use the machines I don't have access to at home ... primarily on Leg/Back day. Keeping my chest/delts and deadlifts at home ... I am not looking forward to dealing with other people while training ... I have gotten used to having everything to myself but you gotta do what you gotta do. I am missing out on really crushing my legs without having access to the leg press .... and I don't do much vertical pulling for my back/lats ... so the gym could help with that ... and I suppose after so many years of training exclusively with free weights adding in the machines could be a beneficial new stimulus to these muscles of mine. ... I figure I will get my gym membership within the next two weeks ... we'll see how it goes.glad the strength is increasing, can't imagine what it's like working out in direct sunlight....that usually zaps my strength so if your able to do it, more power to ya buddy
What does your current gym consist of?Yeah ... not loving the sunlight thing. It adds a whole new dimension to the training sessions ... I plan on joining a gym as I mentioned here before ... originally planned just to use the machines I don't have access to at home ... primarily on Leg/Back day. Keeping my chest/delts and deadlifts at home ... I am not looking forward to dealing with other people while training ... I have gotten used to having everything to myself but you gotta do what you gotta do. I am missing out on really crushing my legs without having access to the leg press .... and I don't do much vertical pulling for my back/lats ... so the gym could help with that ... and I suppose after so many years of training exclusively with free weights adding in the machines could be a beneficial new stimulus to these muscles of mine. ... I figure I will get my gym membership within the next two weeks ... we'll see how it goes.
My current gym is my home setup in my front driveway and partially in the garage .... All Olympic weight. (2) Oly barbells, (1) Oly ez curl bar 1200 lbs of OIy weight ! Pull-up/dip station. Bench. And a bunch of dumbbells .... Pretty basic .... like I've said in earlier posts .... I had the sweet home gym setup before I got divorced .... and it had to go. Since the divorce 6 yrs ago I have slowly pieced this setup together ..... nowhere near the complete home gym setup I had before but still enough to get the job done .... Just don't have the power cage with the upper and lower pulley system like I had before and rather than buy all that again I think I will just join a gym .... plus I don't have the room where I live now to setup a big home gym like before. Is what it is.What does your current gym consist of?
The difference between the stuff from yesteryear and today is very big. There is the safety issue of the stuff we used to use over the andro based stuff today. It's really whether they work for you.4th session for the week done! Feeling it this week ... usually thats my body telling me its time for a de-load week. I've been hitting it hard 4x a week for about 3 months now ... since my last de-load ... so its about time. Think I am gonna deload next week ... only gonna do 3 sessions next week to get things back on track.
Saturday - Legs / Back / Biceps
1. Deadlift - didn't go for a PR this time ... generally only do that once a month. Just went for reps on this sesh
1x10 (225)
1x8 (315)
1x6 (325)
3x3 (345)
2. Db Row
2x12 (65)
1x10 (95)
1x8 (115)
3. Leg extension - superset - seated db curl
3x15 (155) - 3x12 (30)
4. Rear Delt Flys - Mountain Dog Style - high rep and just barely moving the weight by the last few reps ... really gets the delts burning!
3x30 (30)
5. BB Shrugs - pause for 30 seconds then BB Calve Extensions
3x15 (225) - 3x20 (225)
6. Ez Bar 21's
3 sets with (75)
7. Hammer Curls
3x10 (40)
Macro's so far ... another meal planned for a bit later.
kCal-2914 F-128g P-233g C-179g
With this being my first Andro cycle I have no idea what to expect ... at this point I can say that they're not at all like the old school, pre-ban compounds .... but I'm guessing everyone already knows that They are noticeable .... just not the same as Halo or Msten or Epistane ya know. I do have very noticeable muscle fullness that was not there 2 weeks ago .... and my Libido is off the charts at this point ... aggression is higher than normal but I managed to get it under control .... Still enjoying this ride ... glad to have the opportunity .. thanks again double s and everyone at Mind and Muscle.
Our pleasure!4th session for the week done! Feeling it this week ... usually thats my body telling me its time for a de-load week. I've been hitting it hard 4x a week for about 3 months now ... since my last de-load ... so its about time. Think I am gonna deload next week ... only gonna do 3 sessions next week to get things back on track.
Saturday - Legs / Back / Biceps
1. Deadlift - didn't go for a PR this time ... generally only do that once a month. Just went for reps on this sesh
1x10 (225)
1x8 (315)
1x6 (325)
3x3 (345)
2. Db Row
2x12 (65)
1x10 (95)
1x8 (115)
3. Leg extension - superset - seated db curl
3x15 (155) - 3x12 (30)
4. Rear Delt Flys - Mountain Dog Style - high rep and just barely moving the weight by the last few reps ... really gets the delts burning!
3x30 (30)
5. BB Shrugs - pause for 30 seconds then BB Calve Extensions
3x15 (225) - 3x20 (225)
6. Ez Bar 21's
3 sets with (75)
7. Hammer Curls
3x10 (40)
Macro's so far ... another meal planned for a bit later.
kCal-2914 F-128g P-233g C-179g
With this being my first Andro cycle I have no idea what to expect ... at this point I can say that they're not at all like the old school, pre-ban compounds .... but I'm guessing everyone already knows that They are noticeable .... just not the same as Halo or Msten or Epistane ya know. I do have very noticeable muscle fullness that was not there 2 weeks ago .... and my Libido is off the charts at this point ... aggression is higher than normal but I managed to get it under control .... Still enjoying this ride ... glad to have the opportunity .. thanks again double s and everyone at Mind and Muscle.
nice, I'm sure I speak for everyone at mind and muscle that we are glad that the products worked so well for you, I know a few ppl who doubted anything would work after the ph ban but there are still effective products out theredouble s .... this coming Friday will be the end of week 3 on this 4 week cycle .... gonna change things up a bit at that point Have to say, I am impressed with this cycle nonetheless .... didn't really expect this much from a short/mild cycle like this ... but todays complements and what the mirror / scale is saying would seem to indicate that this mix of compounds works. So ... for all those out there like me who doubt the effectiveness of the few remaining 'legal' compounds out there .... give the Basic Mass Stack from Mind and Muscle a shot .... I would suggest running it for 6-8 weeks though ... It has changed my perspective on these compounds .... still love me some old school Halo but with these post-ban products you still have a great opportunity to stack on some quality mass.
Some people will always find an excuse for why they 'can't' do something. There are those who look for excuses and then there are those who look for opportunities ..... I try to be the latter .... not always easy in this negative world but I try And there are a lot of uneducated lifters out there who don't grasp the simple fact that any cycle is only as good as your diet/training protocol. You gotta eat! and you gotta push yourself in the gym. The human body is the most adaptable thing on the planet ... if you don't continue to push yourself in the gym .... add more weight / more reps / less rest .... whatever it takes to keep the body guessing .... if ya don't do that there isn't a cycle out there that will 'work' . Just my rant for the eveningnice, I'm sure I speak for everyone at mind and muscle that we are glad that the products worked so well for you, I know a few ppl who doubted anything would work after the ph ban but there are still effective products out there
So how much weight are you up/down?double s .... this coming Friday will be the end of week 3 on this 4 week cycle .... gonna change things up a bit at that point Have to say, I am impressed with this cycle nonetheless .... didn't really expect this much from a short/mild cycle like this ... but todays complements and what the mirror / scale is saying would seem to indicate that this mix of compounds works. So ... for all those out there like me who doubt the effectiveness of the few remaining 'legal' compounds out there .... give the Basic Mass Stack from Mind and Muscle a shot .... I would suggest running it for 6-8 weeks though ... It has changed my perspective on these compounds .... still love me some old school Halo but with these post-ban products you still have a great opportunity to stack on some quality mass.
I am up 7lbs as of this morning. Still holding a bit more water than usual .... and eating more carbs than usual. I am not doing as well as I would like on the carb cycling .... but that is sorta expected ..... it was easy while on a cut but now that I am bulking I need the extra calories and they have to come from somewhere .... I choose carbs over fat for the caloric increase .... and I have also noticed that I am not doing as well as before on my low carb days ... I feel it much much more .... I think my body needs more carbs at this point .... between the compounds and the bulking my body doesn't handle the low carb days as well as it did while cutting .... so I listen to my body ... gotta eat big to get big right? After the 4 weeks are up and the andro's start to leave my body .... and the other compounds start to take center stage I am confident I will dry up a bit more.So how much weight are you up/down?
Yeah ... not liking the training in the heat .... and not just the heat but the direct sunlight, without any shade ..... sucks. BUT .... I joined a gym today! Found a real 'bodybuilder' gym ... not a fitness center/ meat market kinda place. Felt like I was coming home ... walking in there today. Pictures of bodybuilders from the 50's on up all over the walls .... many pictures of the gym owner with a lot of the old school pros - Arnold, Lou .... A real gym! I think I am going to love it there .... gonna hit my first session there on Monday. Gonna take a bit to get into the swing of going to a gym rather than training at home ... gotta do the gym bag thing and bring my pre and post supps ... minor adjustments ... can't wait. And while I was talking to the owner I mentioned that they don't seem all that busy (its a HUGE facility) and he said that's because they cater to a different kinda crowd than the 24hr Fitness places ... so theres fewer people but everyone there is serious and there to work ... Doesn't look like I am going to have to wait for a machine in this place! This is gonna be good!I detest that first hot day in the gym each year haha....you will def dry out after the cycle and if carb intake normalizes....curious as to why you pick carbs over fats for calorie increases? do you feel like your body runs better off of them?
Yeah ... not liking the training in the heat .... and not just the heat but the direct sunlight, without any shade ..... sucks. BUT .... I joined a gym today! Found a real 'bodybuilder' gym ... not a fitness center/ meat market kinda place. Felt like I was coming home ... walking in there today. Pictures of bodybuilders from the 50's on up all over the walls .... many pictures of the gym owner with a lot of the old school pros - Arnold, Lou .... A real gym! I think I am going to love it there .... gonna hit my first session there on Monday. Gonna take a bit to get into the swing of going to a gym rather than training at home ... gotta do the gym bag thing and bring my pre and post supps ... minor adjustments ... can't wait. And while I was talking to the owner I mentioned that they don't seem all that busy (its a HUGE facility) and he said that's because they cater to a different kinda crowd than the 24hr Fitness places ... so theres fewer people but everyone there is serious and there to work ... Doesn't look like I am going to have to wait for a machine in this place! This is gonna be good!
As for the carbs / fat question .... you made me think on that one. In retrospect I would've been better off dividing the calories that I needed between fat and carbs ... Old habits are hard to break ... trying to eat low fat years ago sorta stuck with me ... even though I know better now about the importance of dietary fat etc....[/QUOTE]
The reason I brought it up was because last year I found out that I feel better and my body seems to function better with more healthy fats and less carbs.....the size I gained didn't seem to change as long as overall calories were similar but the fat gain and bloat were much less with higher fat....everyone is different though, some ppl could eat pizza and not gain an ounce of fat
Yeah ... not liking the training in the heat .... and not just the heat but the direct sunlight, without any shade ..... sucks. BUT .... I joined a gym today! Found a real 'bodybuilder' gym ... not a fitness center/ meat market kinda place. Felt like I was coming home ... walking in there today. Pictures of bodybuilders from the 50's on up all over the walls .... many pictures of the gym owner with a lot of the old school pros - Arnold, Lou .... A real gym! I think I am going to love it there .... gonna hit my first session there on Monday. Gonna take a bit to get into the swing of going to a gym rather than training at home ... gotta do the gym bag thing and bring my pre and post supps ... minor adjustments ... can't wait. And while I was talking to the owner I mentioned that they don't seem all that busy (its a HUGE facility) and he said that's because they cater to a different kinda crowd than the 24hr Fitness places ... so theres fewer people but everyone there is serious and there to work ... Doesn't look like I am going to have to wait for a machine in this place! This is gonna be good!
As for the carbs / fat question .... you made me think on that one. In retrospect I would've been better off dividing the calories that I needed between fat and carbs ... Old habits are hard to break ... trying to eat low fat years ago sorta stuck with me ... even though I know better now about the importance of dietary fat etc....[/QUOTE]
The reason I brought it up was because last year I found out that I feel better and my body seems to function better with more healthy fats and less carbs.....the size I gained didn't seem to change as long as overall calories were similar but the fat gain and bloat were much less with higher fat....everyone is different though, some ppl could eat pizza and not gain an ounce of fat
Ya know .... I've been cutting for so long it seems I have to relearn how to bulk up again. I am not liking the bloating I am experiencing these past couple weeks ... and I have been eating far more carbs than I usually do .... I may switch things up .... experiment to see how my body handles more fat and fewer carbs ... After cutting so long its like starting all over again with a new metabolism to figure out Life's just a big experiment anyway ..
Hel* yeah! I'm happy with it. And as I switch things up throughout the next week I will drop a lot of that water and tighten up a bit ... So I will know for sure after a week or so how much of that gain was actual muscle mass.Still an awesome gain so far.
Volume & the gains in here is crazyJust finished eating :banana:
Macro's for today - kCal-3501 F-133g P-295g C-261g Pretty much right on the mark today .... After tonights session my legs are gonna need all this food
MMMMM Hagen Das ..... I haven't had ice cream in a VERY long time. Got me thinking now .... perhaps some is in my near futureVolume & the gains in here is crazy
That day sounds pretty promising, finished yesterday pretty similar macro wise.. I got into some haagen dazs
Yep them gainz is coming alright ...... weighed myself this morning and I am up a total of 10lbs. My best guess by looking in the mirror is that about 7 of that is good quality .... I will attribute some of this to the cycle I am on but I have to also attribute it to the simple fact that I was on a cut and then switched to a gain phase .... all through the 4 month cut I was training hard and heavy 4x weekly so my muscles were primed to grow .... all they needed was that caloric surplus to get growing. So add in the extra calories and these compounds and thirty days later here I am ... 10lbs up and looking fuller and feeling good.Keep this going the gainz are coming.
Thanks man! I enjoyed logging this stack .... glad to have had the opportunity! Bottles are empty ... now on to the next phase. Gainz!!! :dance:you killed this log man, thank you for all the feedback
next phase is?Thanks man! I enjoyed logging this stack .... glad to have had the opportunity! Bottles are empty ... now on to the next phase. Gainz!!! :dance:
Well .... ya know. Gonna keep riding this gain train now that I have had a good 4 weeks on this Mass Stack .... I will move my log to an un-sponsored log since my 'next phase' isn't sponsored by Mind and Muscle. I am VERY glad to have had the opportunity to log this Basic Mass Stack and I have been quite happy with the results from such a short run .... but as I have already shared with you double s I am gonna keep on going from here .... especially considering the compounds in the Basic Mass Stack were not methylated nor very suppressive .... I feel I can keep going for another 6-8 weeks and really make these gainz stick! So .... this will probably be my last post in this log .... thank you to everyone at Mind and Muscle and thanks to anyone who followed my log .... Not sure how many will be interested in following further .... but this will end up being a 12 week run when its all said and done so its bound to be interesting.next phase is?
Thanks ! I will keep in touch for sure. This was fun and much appreciated!Thank you again, it is has been great chatting here as well as off line and look forward to monitoring progress..Continued success!