Stating cycle! Epistane/Halodrol. Popping the cherry!

[Otheridstaken]

35 5'6 156 lbs

I have been a big ***** most of my life. Stated crossfit and started transforming. Using barbells instead of dumbbells. Doing pull ups etc. After two years of working out two times a day I went from 138 to 153. My highest weight was 162. I broke my wrist in December, and finally feel ready to make progress again. I would like to hit 175.

I will be starting on Thursday after my backpacking trip.

Supplements are

Kronic- Epi 15 mg/Halo 25 mg per cap
Ergo9
Ageis liver protect
OL Tudca
Gear support by blackstone
Prolactrone
Letrone
Carnivor Mass powder


PCT

Nolva
HPTA/ Volume stack
Tudca
Ergo9
Abe-2 bottles
OL Epic unleashed

Also getting Reduce XT soon and have an AI on hand as well.

 

[Otheridstaken]

First workout

Push up x10
Pull up x3

20 rounds


Incline DB press
x10
x4
x4
x4
x4
x4
x4
x4

Flat Bench DB press
x6
x6
x6
x6

DB Fly Super set Lat pulldown
x12, x10, x12, x8
x12, x8, x8, x6

Bent over row super set with T-Bar row
x8 x8 x8 x8

 

[Otheridstaken]

7-24 workout

Push press

1 set 8 reps
7 sets 3 reps

4 rounds of

20x push press 50% #rm
AMRAP Pull ups
1 min rest between rounds

Fran metcon

21-15-9

Thrusters
Pull ups

 

[Otheridstaken]

Third day

Dead Lifts

2 sets of x10
2 sets of x6
2 sets of x5

Chipper

This was RX at 5 rounds. I made it to 3. I was not expecting back pumps so soon and with such intensity.

15x Dead Lifts at 50 percent 5RM
20x Box Jumps

3 Rounds


Evening workout

40-30-20-10

Cal Row
Knees to Elbows

Time for Taurine already

 

[demonfox]

in for the progress

 

[Otheridstaken]

in for the progress

Thanks for coming by

 

[travwj]

In as well as I will be starting halo and stano soon. What doses are you running?

 

[Otheridstaken]

I'm taking two caps per day right now. Which equals 30mg Epi 50mg Halo per day. Will increase to three per day week two or three depending on how everything feels. That would be 45/75.

 

[demonfox]

I think 2 is a good starting point. You might be able to see good results off of it at that dosage since you're stacking Epi and halo. Might not even need to up the dosage.

 

[Otheridstaken]

Taking a day off today. I have a hike planned a little later. So 4th day is a rest day.

I usually take the first dose with a shake and some fish oil. Second dose with a light snack between meals, like dark chocolate squares or something like that.

I already feel a supplement overload come workout time. I take Ergo9 pre and some amino intra. I may save the amino's for later in the day.

 

[Otheridstaken]

7-28

Front Squat

10x, 10x, 12x, 10x, 8x, 4x, 4x, 3x

Front Squat 50% 3RM
Burpees

18-15-12-9-6-3

7:46

Started MTS nutrition Vasky. It has 3g of Taurine and some other pump ingredients. No back issues for this workout.

 

[Otheridstaken]

 

[Otheridstaken]

And PCT....Just ordered reduce XT

 

[Otheridstaken]

7-29

DB bench press

20x
20x
12x, 10x,8x, 5x

DB Flys Super set DB Chest press ups

12x, 15x, 10x
8x, 10x, 10x

8 rounds of

5 pullups
10 pushups
15 Air squats

A lighter volume day. But whole workout flew by at 43 mins.

 

[Otheridstaken]

7-30

Deadlifts

12x, 10x, 5x, 5x, 5x, 3x, 3x,2x

Chipper

50x DL@135
100x Leg ext
400m Farmer carry

 

[Otheridstaken]

So one week done.

The back pumps are already here. Trying MTS Vasky to deal with it. It has 3g of Taurine. May have to down two scoops pre workout.
Last two days lethargy seems to hit after the morning dose.

I have noticed my tolerance level changing as well. I work at a hotel, so we'll see that goes.

 

[demonfox]

How long are you doing the cycle for?
And are you planning to take a test base for lethargy and libido issues?

 

[Otheridstaken]

I would like to hit five weeks. Being my first time, and running two methy compounds, still not sure how my body will take it.

I guess early back pumps are common with Epi.

As far as test base. I have some 4-dhea, wanted to see how things went without it first. I may introduce it day 10 or so.

 

[demonfox]

Make sure you have an AI on hand since 4-dhea can aromatise. Besides, you would also wanna have an AI for pct for rebound gyno. Any ph, especially epi, can cause rebound gyno

 

[Otheridstaken]

Yup, I have Exem on hand.

 

[Otheridstaken]

8-1

Small hike..no gym today.

Weighed in at 159. Weight has been bouncing a bit, 159 is the most consistent. So three pounds in a week.

 

[Otheridstaken]

8-2

Push Press

12x, 8x, 5x, 3x, 3x, 5x, 5x

Shoulder complex

Front and side raise x16- Each movement is one rep
Shoulder shrugs
Three sets- Shrugs were 10x, 10x, 10x

Tri pushdown
12x, 8x, 8x

 

[Otheridstaken]

My tolerance level just went to 0.00. I guess working in a hotel near yellowstone park during peak tourist season is a bad idea when messing with hormones huh?

 

[Otheridstaken]

8-3

Thrusters 21-18-15-12-9-6-3
Pull ups 3-6-9-12-15-18-21

800 m row
10 rounds of x10 kettle swings, x10 Pushups, x10 sit ups, x10 air squats
800 m row


I am leaning towards a change of workout plan. I was looking at 5-3-1 with two days of crossfit/sealfit mixed in.

 

[Otheridstaken]

8-5

Deadlift

x12, x12, x8, x5, x5, x3, x2, x2

It's safe to say things are kicking in. Felt a lot different in the gym tonight. The 3 rep was a PR, followed by another PR for the 2 rep sets.
New DL PR is 260 now. It was 300 before the wrist break.

Lat pull down Super set T-handle rows.
x12, x8, x8, x8

DB rows X50
Leg ext x100

95 lb SL DL
Knees to Elbows

25-20-15-10-5

 

[Volvo140G]

Sweeeet - s u b d !

 

[Otheridstaken]

Sweeeet - s u b d !

Welcome, thanks for joining.

 

[Otheridstaken]

8-6

2k row

100 pull ups
200 push ups
300 air squats

2k row

Finished in 56 minutes.

 

[DonnieM]

In for gainz!
Whats your daily calory intake?

 

[Otheridstaken]

In for gainz!
Whats your daily calory intake?

Eating about 3500 cal, 250 protein, try to keep carbs around 125-150, otherwise I get sluggish. Usually keep fat around 80g or higher. My body likes fat for energy.

 

[Otheridstaken]

8-7

Resting today.

Weight seems steady at 161 now.

I started taking Prolactrone before bed last night. Sleep was deeper, but I feel a little too laid back after waking. I took three caps before bed, so maybe two will be the way to go.

Speaking of supplements. I can't wait for the Carnivor mass to finish. I have had fat face since starting it. I have a feeling it's just creatine loaded. Maybe they are a sister company of muscle tech.

 

[DonnieM]

Eating about 3500 cal, 250 protein, try to keep carbs around 125-150, otherwise I get sluggish. Usually keep fat around 80g or higher. My body likes fat for energy.

Ok cool. Yeah, mine too! Healthy fats are good for muscle growth and testo production

 

[Otheridstaken]

I had some rough lethargy today. Took me longer then it should have to finish this thing.

8-8

150 DB Thrusters (25lb)

18 minutes and some seconds. I kept stopping to yawn it out.

 

[DonnieM]

You gonna start the 4-ad?

 

[Otheridstaken]

You gonna start the 4-ad?

I did start that three days ago. Maybe should have started with the first dose.

 

[Otheridstaken]

No lethargy tonight.

8-9

Push up x10
Pull up x3

Got to 30 rounds on this. Up ten rounds since last time.

Hang power cleans-
15 rounds x6 reps 1 minute rest between rounds.

 

[Otheridstaken]

Couple pics

 

[andrieka]

Good luck man, following your progress

 

[Otheridstaken]

Good luck man, following your progress

Thanks for coming


So 8-10
Rest day

Today

8-11

50 box jumps
50 jumping pull ups
50 kettleball swings 35lb
50 walking lunges
50 Knees to Elbows
50 Pushpress 45lb BB
50 Burpees


For 8-12
I have a 15 mile hike planned.

 

[andrieka]

Thanks for coming


So 8-10
Rest day

Today

8-11

50 box jumps
50 jumping pull ups
50 kettleball swings 35lb
50 walking lunges
50 Knees to Elbows
50 Pushpress 45lb BB
50 Burpees


For 8-12
I have a 15 mile hike planned.

Do you experience any back pump? If you dont, how many mg of taurine did you use ED?

 

[Otheridstaken]

The 15 mile hike turned into a 20 miler. We did see a black bear.

 

[Otheridstaken]

For 8-13 I put something together on the fly. Just wanted to do something for the upper body. I was toast after the big hike.

Push press
4 sets x10
4 sets x6

Shoulder shrugs x10, x10, x12, x6
super set
Tri push downs x12, x8, x8, x10

Rest day today 8-14
Will be hitting legs tomorrow. Very surprised at the recovery from such a long hike.

 

[Otheridstaken]

8-15

Decided one more rest day for the legs.

Bench press x12,x12,x8,x8,x6,x6

Close grip bench press x75
Lat pull down x75

3 rounds of

Power cleans x7
Push press x7
Burpees x7

 

[andrieka]

How much is your gains til now?

 

[Otheridstaken]

How much is your gains til now?

Current weight is 163. So up 7 pounds since starting. I usually stick to DB's for bench press. Tonight used a barbell. I was happy with the weight. The PR portion of the program will come during PCT. Looking forward to seeing how much everything increased.

 

[andrieka]

Current weight is 163. So up 7 pounds since starting. I usually stick to DB's for bench press. Tonight used a barbell. I was happy with the weight. The PR portion of the program will come during PCT. Looking forward to seeing how much everything increased.

You re breaking your own record then, wow, congrats for that
Im on my superdrol+epistane stack right now, the end of 2nd week, gain 6.6lbs on cutting diet mode lol, i set it up for a recomp though
And again congrats for your gains dude

 

[Otheridstaken]

8-16

Front squats

x10, x10, x10, x10, x8 x4, x4, x5 The last 5 was a PR for 175

Front squat-50% of 5 RM
Burpess

18-15-12-9-6-3

 

[Otheridstaken]

8-17

5K Row

 

[earthgainz]

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What else is there to want in life?

 

[Otheridstaken]

Well first cycle is done. My ending stats.

Bench -135-Don't really have a PR with this. I just started using a barbell again.
Front Squat -175
Deadlift -265

Really wondering about the product I took. Not sure if it did much. I was eating so much food it could have just been that. I was expecting more.

But to reflect honestly. I think the program I picked is wrong for doing a PH or AAS. I didn't push enough heavy weight and went more for muscle endurance. My weight seems steady around 162. Again, this could be from eating so much during cycle. I also feel I did not wait long enough for the wrist to heal. The break happened in December 2014. I guess ligaments and tendons take their sweet time to heal. Biggest issue were dead lifts and grip strength. I was at an even 300 before the break, at 265 now.

So I am hopeful the PCT works well. Olympus labs was kind enough to supply me a bottle of Ep1c Unleashed I can use with the TD. So my PCT will be logged.

Thank you to the subscribers. Hope to make the next log more detailed and interesting. This first time was mostly for me.