You can use actual test at a trt dosage which would be the best. Ive tried 4- andro. Didnt like it. Plus the conversion rate is so low its just not good enough in my opinion. I heard topical dhea like dermacrine is good for lethargy. Iconic formulations brought back dermacrine for now. Or sup3r dhea from primeval labs but i heard its super liquidy. If you dont pin hcg then 4 andro in a large dose (for libido) and a topical dhea(for lethargy and crap feeling) will be good. Hcg OR 4 andro is good enough for keeping libido 'normalized'. NOTE: Some people will feel great some will feel worse. The most important factor is your mind. Even fearing shutdown can give you limp d. Ive heard someone on ostarine on the second day panic because they couldnt get it up. 95% mental.
