Been eyeing this for awhile.. doesn't get too many mentions on this board. Was wondering if any of you guys have run it and your experiences with it.
thats the main benefit I'm interested in.Love the sleep
No you will be in deep , restful sleep....and yes very vivid dreamsthats the main benefit I'm interested in.
Do you notice yourself waking up during the night? Vivid dreams? groggy in the morning?
This. I've used it multiple times and it promotes great sleep and recovery.No you will be in deep , restful sleep....and yes very vivid dreams
such as?I got nothing from it, to me it's a lot better alternatives for sleep.
Vein is great, Dream-n-Grow is pretty good as well. I got better results from ZMA than growth factor...such as?
not a fan of ZMA ... going to take a look at dream and growVein is great, Dream-n-Grow is pretty good as well. I got better results from ZMA than growth factor...
*increases* hgh levels through the promotion of deeper sleepLooks interesting. What is it?
Dream n Grow is pretty solid. I don't like to take it every night, but 2 -3 nights a week should be good. I've got some samples of Sedation coming that also looks good, but it's got ZMA.not a fan of ZMA ... going to take a look at dream and grow
What's that called and where did you find it?
I have. For a while Growth Factor was putting me into too deep of a sleep so I was feeling a little groggy when I woke up. I switched to 3-3 dosing and that went away.Has anyone tried dosing 3 before sleep and 2 10-12 hours later preworkout for a midday hgh boost?
Whilst carnitine, green tea etc wouldn't be detrimental to your workout I'm not sure what effect gaba and chlorophytum borivilanium would have
Listerine? lolwatlove this stuff .. actually just ordered some this month
been a while .. best sleep (other then Nyquil + vodka + Listerine )
What's this called?
Amino PM from Muscle Elements.What's this called?
Must be listerine .. only mouthwash that's ADA approved lolListerine? lolwat
When did you dose the daytime 3 and did you notice any effect on your workouts?I have. For a while Growth Factor was putting me into too deep of a sleep so I was feeling a little groggy when I woke up. I switched to 3-3 dosing and that went away.
nope, workouts remained the same.When did you dose the daytime 3 and did you notice any effect on your workouts?
Looking to try SNS Growth Factor XT on of the ingredients is 500mg Green Tea extract not sure why the added this to a formula designed for deeper sleep wouldnt the caffeine in Green Tea after those who are sensitive ?
It'd be a low amount on there, approx 20mg or less. Often the actual amount in GTE is much lower than thatLooking to try SNS Growth Factor XT on of the ingredients is 500mg Green Tea extract not sure why the added this to a formula designed for deeper sleep wouldnt the caffeine in Green Tea after those who are sensitive ?
Yeah the extract should be low caffeine. As for why, as I recall the idea is that catechins in green tea act as COMT inhibitors, which delays the metabolism of l-dopa into dopamine. L-dopa can cross the blood brain barrier, dopamine can’t, so the green tea should allow it to get where it needs to be more effective.Looking to try SNS Growth Factor XT on of the ingredients is 500mg Green Tea extract not sure why the added this to a formula designed for deeper sleep wouldnt the caffeine in Green Tea after those who are sensitive ?
I forget where I read it, but I do recall reading that the body’s 24-hour AUC of GH remains pretty stable. If you pump out extra via supplements or exercise, it will tend to decrease it at other times of the day. Personally, I don’t buy into GH boosters, I just let my body take care of that with workouts and sleep. However, if this product can improve sleep, there’s obviously benefit to that.fourth, hasn't transient gh spike become old news now?
It's a finniky beast isnt it? People scrutinize you when there are no studies, and they scrutinise you when there is.all these formulas seem to stemming from usplabs powerfull? first - usplabs... second, both studies they cite, they pay for. third, in gh study, like 2 hypers only respond, 18 didnt. fourth, hasn't transient gh spike become old news now? down 3g gaba before squat - will spike too there. has *anyone* done before/after igf-1 draw while using these ingredients?
“This study is sponsored, so the results are biased”It's a finniky beast isnt it? People scrutinize you when there are no studies, and they scrutinise you when there is.
Tough crowd.
I've used generic ZMA, and I have used ZMK by MST. If you have not tried ZMK, I recommend giving it a try, it improved my sleep pretty significantly.not a fan of ZMA ... going to take a look at dream and grow
I agree also, I use rsp z elite , has melatonin also. Usually take that product, an extra 3mg of melatonin (6mg total) and 25-50 Benadryl. This cocktail for me works very well and costs me hardly anything. That zma is usually bogo and has a lot of servings in the bottle.I've used generic ZMA, and I have used ZMK by MST. If you have not tried ZMK, I recommend giving it a try, it improved my sleep pretty significantly.
hahaha. ok - then disregard two - lets talk 2 responders out of 20, no very good odds for eighty percent of people who buy? :smiley face: and second - transient gh spike? even if in lucky 20% what possibly going to get? 1iu of the real gh just bring ghd adults to normal (male) - clear that plants wouldn't have if it took real to do.It's a finniky beast isnt it? People scrutinize you when there are no studies, and they scrutinise you when there is.
Tough crowd.
I hate zma .. I’ve tried numerous time and each time couldn’t deal with it .. will look into zmk bc I really want to benefits from overall.I have yet to try growth factor but I have a lot of confidence in SNS, they make great products!
not trying to start drama, but the original powerful was fantastic--the versions that came after were not even close, imo.USP Labs Powerfull was the one supplement that I remember giving me the best gains of any other natty supp I have tried for a while I thought it was spiked...
So I was hoping that Growth Factor XTs similar formula will give me comparable results
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