SD, EPI CYCLE & PCT

[reta]

UPDATE FEB05: Added Formestane (On Cycle) at 100mg ED Week 1-4 halved on Week 5 to help increase effectiveness & suppress estrogen.

Hello,

Planning on running the following by next month. Any help and advise on how to stack current supplements listed below would be greatly appreciated. Updating table as I go along.

Week		Liv.52 ED	Super Strength Omega 3-EPA ED	Life Support ED	Formestane ED	SD/EPI ED	Bedtime
CYCLE
1		2 TAB	2 SGC	2 CAP x2	100mg	SD 10-20mg	ZMA 3 CAP
2		2 TAB	2 SGC	2 CAP x2	100mg	SD 20mg	ZMA 3 CAP
3		4 TAB	4 SGC	2 CAP x2	100mg	SD 20-10mg Epi 20-30mg	ZMA 3 CAP
4		2 TAB	2 SGC	2 CAP x2	100mg	Epi 30mg	ZMA 3 CAP
5		2 TAB	2 SGC	2 CAP x2	50mg	Epi 30-20mg	ZMA 3 CAP
Week	DAA	Liv.42 ED	Super Strength Omega 3-EPA ED	Milk Thistle	Post Cycle Support ED	I3C	Bedtime
PCT
1 (6)	3kmg	2 TAB	2 SGC	1kmg	4 CAP	200mg x3	ZMA 3 CAP
2 (7)	3kmg	2 TAB	2 SGC	1kmg	4 CAP	200mg x3	ZMA 3 CAP
3 (8)	3kmg	2 TAB	2 SGC	1kmg	4 CAP	200mg x3	ZMA 3 CAP
4 (9)	3kmg	2 TAB	2 SGC	1kmg	4 CAP	200mg x3	ZMA 3 CAP

Current Available Supplements:
Milk Thistle 1000 mg, 90 Softgels
Universal Nutrition ZMA Pro - 90 Capsules
Indole-3-carbinol (i3c), 200mg - 60 Vcaps
Anabolic Innovations Post Cycle Support - 120 Caps
AI Sports Nutrition Life Support
Himalaya Liv 52 - 100 Tablets
Nature Made Liquid Softgel Super Strength Omega 3-EPA (1000mg EPA, 200mg DHA) , 60 Softgels x2
Creatine Monohydrate 1500 mg - 100 Tabs
Formestane
Clomid 50 ML
DAA

Possible Supplements:
Erase
Taurine
Saw Palmetto
Tribulus or/and Maca?

 

[ManBeast]

You will need to use the clomid for sure after being on superdrol. Taurine will be useful to combat the back pumps. DAA and ERASE are good in PCT as well.

What is your training history and goals for this cycle?

ManBeast

 

[Roniboney]

aesthetically please first post.That is the best post I have ever seen for clarity on a forum ever.

whats crazy is it looks like a good cycle.You need a SERM though after SD.You may want to run the SD and EPI alongside each other for 4 weeks though.They compliment each other rather nicely.

Run HCGenerate also to ensure your libido comes back post cylce.

Other than that(get Nolva/Clomid) you'll be fine

 

[reta]

You will need to use the clomid for sure after being on superdrol. Taurine will be useful to combat the back pumps. DAA and ERASE are good in PCT as well.

What is your training history and goals for this cycle?

ManBeast

Yeah, I figured I would most definitely need clomid for SD. I'm thinking 50/50/25/25

I've been training for 5+ years now. 3rd cycle. Goals? What goals? :shrug: I had SD and Epi laying around for almost a year and decided to finally take it :sleepy:

 

[mattrag]

Yeah, I figured I would most definitely need clomid for SD. I'm thinking 50/50/25/25

I've been training for 5+ years now. 3rd cycle. Goals? What goals? :shrug: I had SD and Epi laying around for almost a year and decided to finally take it :sleepy:

Reta, unless in your first 2 cycles you bounced back really well with 50/50/25/25 I would up that do 100-150/100/50/50. I am not one for more is better, but coming off cycle you want to saturate the ERs so that you don't get any rebound gyno AND so you can start up your HPGA ASAP.

As far as goals... if you don't have goals you won't make the most out of yoru cycle period. Unless you don't consider "Getting stronger" a goal you are going to need one. In general you need one just to keep the mood in the workouts alive, and keep records so you can see progress/change. If not there is not point in trying to workout/diet. And definitely no point to taking SD.

 

[reta]

aesthetically please first post.That is the best post I have ever seen for clarity on a forum ever.

whats crazy is it looks like a good cycle.You need a SERM though after SD.You may want to run the SD and EPI alongside each other for 4 weeks though.They compliment each other rather nicely.

Run HCGenerate also to ensure your libido comes back post cylce.

Other than that(get Nolva/Clomid) you'll be fine

Thanks.

I wanted to keep total mg below 30 for the majority of the cycle. In week 3 SD and Epi are ran alongside each other at higher the preferred total mgs.

HCGenerate is a bit too pricey. May add some Tribulus though.

 

[mattrag]

Thanks.

I wanted to keep total mg below 30 for the majority of the cycle. In week 3 SD and Epi are ran alongside each other at higher the preferred total mgs.

HCGenerate is a bit too pricey. May add some Tribulus though.

You don't need tribulus.... if you're gonna skimp on the natty test booster just run DAA. Everything else will just help you keep gains... tribulus will get your libido up supposedly... but IMO that does nothing for maintaining gains off cycle OR getting your HPGA back up.

 

[reta]

Reta, unless in your first 2 cycles you bounced back really well with 50/50/25/25 I would up that do 100-150/100/50/50. I am not one for more is better, but coming off cycle you want to saturate the ERs so that you don't get any rebound gyno AND so you can start up your HPGA ASAP.

As far as goals... if you don't have goals you won't make the most out of yoru cycle period. Unless you don't consider "Getting stronger" a goal you are going to need one. In general you need one just to keep the mood in the workouts alive, and keep records so you can see progress/change. If not there is not point in trying to workout/diet. And definitely no point to taking SD.

150/100/50/50 Considering SD & Epi or just SD? Just curious since SD is only for 3 weeks tops. I would have to order some more for my lab rats. I can probably get away with 100/70/70/30.

As far as goal, I do a lot of competition training at my local gym. So one could say strength and size (lean).

 

[mattrag]

150/100/50/50 Considering SD & Epi or just SD? Just curious since SD is only for 3 weeks tops. I would have to order some more for my lab rats. I can probably get away with 100/70/70/30.

As far as goal, I do a lot of competition training at my local gym. So one could say strength and size (lean).

Ah, that's a goal

SD will shut you down hard, it shut me down hard lol. Anyway, adding the EPI on their won't really help in anyway. You can only get shut down so far I think so after Sd you will want a good PCT to come back. That should be enough just get some DAA to run along side.

 

[reta]

Ah, that's a goal

SD will shut you down hard, it shut me down hard lol. Anyway, adding the EPI on their won't really help in anyway. You can only get shut down so far I think so after Sd you will want a good PCT to come back. That should be enough just get some DAA to run along side.

I will purchase PrimaForce D-Aspartic Acid tomorrow locally. $20 not too bad. Powered form.

 

[mattrag]

I will purchase PrimaForce D-Aspartic Acid tomorrow locally. $20 not too bad. Powered form.

Yup, any bulk DAA should do you alright.

 

[reta]

BTW I never ran SD before. You think 30mg is too high? I am reading people get shut down harshly. Should I make it 20/20/20. Hmmm

 

[ManBeast]

Start it at 10 then, take it to 20 week 2, and if you feel like you can handle/need more, take it to 30.

ManBeast

 

[reta]

How do you guys run your DAA? In terms of amount. Also should I add my forma on cycle at a lower dosage as well as PCT?

So far I have DAA at 3,000 ED morning PCT.

Forma on Cycle at 100mg ED

 

[Mrpersinality]

My favorite cycle is a 6 week SD/EPI bridge. Weeks 1-3 SD 10/20/20 (3rd week 20SD 30/EPI) weeks3-6 EPI 30/40/40.

 

[reta]

My favorite cycle is a 6 week SD/EPI bridge. Weeks 1-3 SD 10/20/20 (3rd week 20SD 30/EPI) weeks3-6 EPI 30/40/40.

Thats almost identical. I will be lowering the dosage for SD for sure. Perhaps do 10/20/20 as well.

 

[Mrpersinality]

Yea 20 of SD is all I ever need I never go past that. Keep them carbs high with the SD