Same article that Mr Cooper posted. You guys are very quick to research and believe studies using IN VITRO herb extracts. Yea sure, in a test tube in China did pretty well. However, the ONLY study IN VIVO thus far for this compound was done using FISH - which is the study I posted. So unless you have another ''rock solid'' proof that the herb actually does what it promises regarding anti-aromataze inhibition outside a test tube.. I will keep skeptic about it.
It is fine to be skeptical, in fact I encourage it quite often. Far too many people ignore empirical evidence, rely far too heavily on anecdotal evidence and just jump on whatever bandwagon is currently popular. Part of what I try to do here on AM is present evidence and try to start some conversations using logical, critical thinking. I was one of the guys who helped start the supplement science forum to help balance all of the anecdotal hype surrounding supps. So when it comes to evidence I am ALL for it and will regularly demand randomized double blind in vivo human evidence but that is not what we always get.
That said, you comments aren't coming across as one who is skeptical but are coming across as inflammatory and trying to start controversy.
The new formula is crap, contains a herb that has never been proved or studies-only article i found on it was for genetial herpes use?!
This isn't skepticism, this is an attempt to attack (at best it is disingenuous). The implication is that PES just selected a compound willy nilly and bottled it and relied solely on hype. If you are familiar with the company this is something that we have NEVER done. As someone who has worked with coop I can testify to the amount of painstaking hours that are put into developing products (I have lost quite a few nights of sleep searching the literature trying to find human data on countless compounds). Will a randomized double blind in vivo human study be better? Of course, but that isn't always available. Instead we have to review whatever the current literature is at the time and try to put together what we feel is the most effective formula to accomplish whatever task we are aiming for it to do. Remember we are a nutraceutical company, not a pharmaceutical one. We dont have the luxury of funding clinical research to test compounds. However what we do have is access to literature, a phenomenal researcher who is a stellar formulator and a great and honest beta testing team.
So while it is true that there isnt a human study on dehydroabietic acid, the notion that there is NO evidence for its effectiveness is simply false. There is evidence however limited it may be, it still exist. We do not formulate with random compounds and just hope for the placebo effect. This has NEVER been something we have done and it is something we never will do.
If I misread your comments then I apologize but your arent coming across as a skeptic but as a sh!t starter. I really hope it is just an issue of tone getting lost in the web. Like I said if it is, I apologize and keep up the fight for skepticism.
