PN Dermahex/ BPS Dermacrine

[Joshlm69]

Now we play the waiting game.... its just staring at me in my room, haha.

Ordered some more orange triad vitamins.

So to plan out everything, going to do the below :

On Cycle :

Dermahex 1ML daily (1/2 AM 1/2 PM)
Dermacrine 3 pumps daily AM
AI Sports Reds & Greens
Orange Triad Vitamins
CEL Cycle Assist
Nizoral Shampoo + Hairsurge hair vitamins
PES Protein

PCT
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Volume
DAA
Most Wanted (Lax + Edcy)
Green Magnitutde Creatine
PES Protein

Anything missed boys?

 

[yates84]

Looks good bro. You can still use your creatine on cycle if you want to, won't hurt

 

[Joshlm69]

Looks good bro. You can still use your creatine on cycle if you want to, won't hurt

I was told to save it for PCT to help maintain strength, should I not do that?

 

[yates84]

I was told to save it for PCT to help maintain strength, should I not do that?

It doesn't matter, either way would be fine.

 

[Joshlm69]

It doesn't matter, either way would be fine.

May aswell just keep on using it throughout then

 

[MrVascular]

Or... use the creatine all the way through... fairly certain creatine cycling is broscience.

 

[IronAddiction]

hopefully the hex goes well and you make some nice progress, hopefully it isn't bunk like you were saying from the recent garbage floating around and out about pn.

 

[grinnell27]

I can't comment on the legitimacy of Hex, I can voice for 11-oxo, andro 300, 5-HD LAX & Arimaderm...

The people who logged those all had good results except one guy (godstrength, I think) who had no results with Arimaderm.

I'm not sticking up for them as they dropped me and 2 others as reps and didn't tell any of us, so still a bit annoyed at that lack of communication.

Just want people to know most/all of their stuff isn't bunk, however we still don't know the full lab results so we are all in the dark.

 

[Joshlm69]

Guys, dermacrine & dermahex are both applied to the shoulder / chest. Is it okay to use the same application for both?

Or shave the hair off my inner thighs to appl dermahex there?

 

[yates84]

Guys, dermacrine & dermahex are both applied to the shoulder / chest. Is it okay to use the same application for both?

Or shave the hair off my inner thighs to appl dermahex there?

There are many good TD application spots. Inner arms, inner thighs, traps, clavicle, upper chest. I think shaving is unnecessary personally. Try one TD on your right shoulder/trap/clavicle and the other on your left side. It won't hurt if they overlap a little bit, the main concern should be clean and dry skin

 

[Joshlm69]

It's just dermacrine even at 3 pumps is SO much to rub in, it uses all of my shoulders and chest . Maybe I could put the dermatest on the inner biceps. Will it absorb fine there?

 

[yates84]

It's just dermacrine even at 3 pumps is SO much to rub in, it uses all of my shoulders and chest . Maybe I could put the dermatest on the inner biceps. Will it absorb fine there?

Yes, inner arms are a great spot. Nice thin skin with not much fat

 

[Joshlm69]

for PCT, im probably going to order some very high grade tongat ali & iicarin and take along with Most wanted (laxo/edcy) - is DAA worthwhile for PCT?

 

[yates84]

for PCT, im probably going to order some very high grade tongat ali & iicarin and take along with Most wanted (laxo/edcy) - is DAA worthwhile for PCT?

I use Daa in every pct at 3 grams. It's a cheap way to boost test

 

[Joshlm69]

Started this morning. Dermahex smells really nice, easy to rub in. Extremely awkward trying to rub it into inner biceps however, hope some didnt drop off my arm as its such a small amount to apply anyway. Will probably just use left shoulder in future for dermahex, and apply dermacrine everywhere else bar the left shoulder.

Hope this is a decent first run! Time to get my feet wet

 

[Joshlm69]

Will take a photo tonight after gym to show physically where I'm at currently

 

[Joshlm69]

On cycle + PCT has turned up

yates84 , all good to go?

 

[yates84]

On cycle + PCT has turned up

yates84 , all good to go?

Looks good, let's make some gains! Interested to see how that cialis/viagra combo treats you

 

[Joshlm69]

Looks good, let's make some gains! Interested to see how that cialis/viagra combo treats you

Hopefully I wont need to use it at all, its more for insurance purposes.

Do you think I should finish off the cycle assist in PCT? Ill of used 1 1/2 bottles for the run, so will have 1/2 left, use in PCT?

 

[yates84]

Hopefully I wont need to use it at all, its more for insurance purposes.

Do you think I should finish off the cycle assist in PCT? Ill of used 1 1/2 bottles for the run, so will have 1/2 left, use in PCT?

Yes, you definitely want to continue cycle assist in pct

 

[Joshlm69]

Danes - im going to order the Tongat Ali 200:1 and the iicarin.

Do you think its worth getting bulgarian Trib or trib atlus to help with free test/libido in PCT? or not to bother

 

[Danes]

Danes - im going to order the Tongat Ali 200:1 and the iicarin.

Do you think its worth getting bulgarian Trib or trib atlus to help with free test/libido in PCT? or not to bother

You will be more than fine with the tjings you are running right now.
You dont need icariin if you are using viagra

Tongkat Ali is allways a good add

 

[Dragoninho]

Guess it's all each to their own. I personally found that I 'felt' like I rebounded quicker using 2 SERMS.

It's always good to see other people's opinions and reasons though.

I agree with this. Low dose Clomid and low dose Nolva has treated me better than higher dose of any of them.
12,5 mg Clomid and 5 mg Nolva with TRS has been great for fly PCT's.
HCG and small dose AI if needed during heavier cycles.
Done!

 

[Joshlm69]

I slept pretty bad last night. Do you think it could be due to taking dermahex in the evening?

Should I instead do my 2 doses at 8am and 2pm?

I also think I'll only take 4 CEL assist instead of 8 so I can take throughout pct.

Thoughts?

 

[yates84]

I slept pretty bad last night. Do you think it could be due to taking dermahex in the evening?

Should I instead do my 2 doses at 8am and 2pm?

I also think I'll only take 4 CEL assist instead of 8 so I can take throughout pct.

Thoughts?

Don't skimp on cycle assist, buy another bottle. It's a small price to pay when your health is concerned. I always feel a little weird and sleepless my first day or two cycling, changing your dosing scheme might help but probably won't. Just give it a few days

 

[Joshlm69]

Don't skimp on cycle assist, buy another bottle. It's a small price to pay when your health is concerned. I always feel a little weird and sleepless my first day or two cycling, changing your dosing scheme might help but probably won't. Just give it a few days

Am I missing out due to the half life is I dose at 8am and 2.30pm or is that okay ?

 

[yates84]

Am I missing out due to the half life is I dose at 8am and 2.30pm or is that okay ?

Try around 4pm for your second dose, should be a good medium

 

[Joshlm69]

Thanks man. I shall do that, hopefully it wont keep me awake if i dose it earlier. Also noted re the cycle assist, even though it says dose 8 hours apart, ill dose at 8am and 2.30pm as I know the NAC causes insomnia, and given how badly i sleep normally, i dont wana be taking that in the evening

 

[yates84]

Thanks man. I shall do that, hopefully it wont keep me awake if i dose it earlier. Also noted re the cycle assist, even though it says dose 8 hours apart, ill dose at 8am and 2.30pm as I know the NAC causes insomnia, and given how badly i sleep normally, i dont wana be taking that in the evening

I don't see a problem with that. As long as you get your full dose of cycle support

 

[Joshlm69]

For current photo, using ones my gf took while we were on holiday last week, will use these as a comparison photo

Excuse the glasses, they were a random pair as I forgot mine, I know it makes me look like a peen, haha

 

[Joshlm69]

Going to try taking 1g melatonin 3 hours before bed and some chamoille tea an hour before bed. Anyone have any suggestions re melatonin use? It seems there is so much different advice flying around regarding it

 

[grinnell27]

I take 1 single 3mg tab and it puts me out like a light bro. I do find it difficult to get going in the morning though.

 

[Joshlm69]

I take 1 single 3mg tab and it puts me out like a light bro. I do find it difficult to get going in the morning though.

how long before bed? 1 hour?

 

[grinnell27]

I take mine about 30mins... I don't find it makes me that sleepy but once I am asleep I'm out.

 

[Dragoninho]

I have played around with the dosage and find that around 1-1,5 mg works good for me. If I take more I wake up after aprx 4 h of sleep and have a hard time go back to sleep.
I use to split the tablets in half and take one half 30 min before bed and another quarter if I wake up in the middle of the night.
Havn't tried time released ones yet which could be a wise thing...

Otherwise. Glycine!! 10 g 30-15 min before bed and I sleep like a baby-bear. Recommended to try!!
Good luck!

 

[Joshlm69]

Danes can i have your email dude

 

[Danes]

Danes can i have your email dude

Sent it with a reputation

 

[Joshlm69]

Sent it with a reputation

Ive emailed you

 

[Danes]

Ive emailed you

Please no gayporn.
I prefer hot MILFs

 

[Joshlm69]

hahahah, reply fool!

 

[yates84]

Please no gayporn.
I prefer hot MILFs

Gym milfs?!

 

[Joshlm69]

Is it a good sign that it's affecting my sleep? Does it mean it isn't bunk?

 

[yates84]

Is it a good sign that it's affecting my sleep? Does it mean it isn't bunk?

You will know for sure in a couple of weeks

 

[Joshlm69]

You will know for sure in a couple of weeks

if its bunk, do I need to worry about anything? If in a couple of weeks I havent seen anything, do I just move to PCT?

 

[yates84]

if its bunk, do I need to worry about anything? If in a couple of weeks I havent seen anything, do I just move to PCT?

Try not to think about that, just eat and train your a$$ off. Evaluate your cycle at the end. This stuff takes some time to kick in, don't get discouraged if it doesn't happen right away. You will know when it kicks

 

[Joshlm69]

Try not to think about that, just eat and train your a$$ off. Evaluate your cycle at the end. This stuff takes some time to kick in, don't get discouraged if it doesn't happen right away. You will know when it kicks

I just meant do I have to worry about anything in it being harmful, if it isn't what's on the bottle

 

[yates84]

I just meant do I have to worry about anything in it being harmful, if it isn't what's on the bottle

I hope not! I doubt they would do anything like that

 

[Joshlm69]

Slept well with 2g melatonin 1 hour pre bed

 

[Danes]

Gym milfs?!

Lol.. mmmm thats my dessert

 

[Joshlm69]

May add magnitropin to pct to keep gains Tabascoonall

if this PH actually does anything, haha