Noob. First time H-Drol

WVUDoak21

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I'm thinking about doing a cycle of H-Drol because of all the platues I've hit in the past couple years. I have done my research on different forums and it is apparent this forum has the most knowledge in one place. After doing all my research this is what I've come up with for a PCT.

H-Drol
50/50/75/75/75/75
Cycle Assist Throughout

PCT
Tamoxifen Citrate
20/20/10/10
Clomid
75(3 days)50/50/50/50
DAA
3g/3g/3g/3g
Inhibit-E
0/0/0/50/50/25/25
Cycle Assist throughout

Questions
Will it hurt to run both Clomid and Nolva?
Do I need to run both Clomid and Nolva?
Overall, is this a good PCT?
 

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no need for both clomid + nolva. If so only use both for the 1st wk of pct.

start the inhibit e 1 wk earlier than you have in the layout. Add Vit C, 1000mg 4x ED for cortisol wks 2-6
 

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Clomid
75(3 days)50/50/50/50
DAA
3g/3g/3g/3g
Inhibit-E
0/0/50/50/25/25
Vitamin C
0/4000/4000/4000/4000/4000
Cycle Assist throughout

This is where I'll start
 

WVUDoak21

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Since you mentioned Cortisol levels I decided to look into that as well. Would a product like Lean Extreme be a good fit for this PCT? Or would Vitamin C alone be enough for the cortisol? Thanks for the advice.
 

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Cycle
H-Drol
50/75/75/75/75/75
CEL Cycle Assist
Add 500-1000(flexible) calories to my fairly strict diet. Damn holidays.
Multivitamin
Fish Oil


PCT
Nolva
20/20/10/10
DAA
3g/3g/3g/3g
Inhibit E
0/0/50/50/25/25
Lean Xtreme
0/0/3/3/2/2
CEL Cycle Assist

Questions
Are there any other supplements I should be taking during the cycle to help the H-Drol be most effective?
  • Creatine? I’ve read no because it puts additional stress on the liver.
  • Pre workout? Seems like a no because my BP should be making a change. With this being my first cycle it wouldn’t be a good idea to see how I’d react to the addition of a pre workout. Correct?
  • How about a product like PowerFull? I’ve taken it before with good results. Helps me get to sleep and stay asleep.
  • ZMA? See above.
  • NO products? Not sure on this one at all.
 

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Cycle
H-Drol
50/75/75/75/75/75
CEL Cycle Assist take 6-8 caps at night, this way it wont interfere with the PH's
Add 500-1000(flexible) calories to my fairly strict diet. Damn holidays.
Multivitamin take 1 more a day than normal
Fish Oil take 2-3 caps with each h drol dose, make sure your taking at least 7 caps ED total


PCT
Nolva
20/20/10/10
DAA
3g/3g/3g/3g
Inhibit E
0/0/50/50/25/25 start this 1 wk earlier than you have here
Lean Xtreme
0/0/3/3/2/2 go 1 more wk on this @ 1 cap ED (0/0/3/3/2/2/1)
CEL Cycle Assist you only need 5-6 caps of this during pct for the 1st 15-18 days

Questions
Are there any other supplements I should be taking during the cycle to help the H-Drol be most effective?
  • Creatine? I’ve read no because it puts additional stress on the liver. while ON cycle you can use way more than normal. take advantage of it, 12-15g;s a day
  • Pre workout? Seems like a no because my BP should be making a change. With this being my first cycle it wouldn’t be a good idea to see how I’d react to the addition of a pre workout. Correct? cuz of blood pressure stay away from this sh!t
  • How about a product like PowerFull? I’ve taken it before with good results. Helps me get to sleep and stay asleep. if sleep is an issue normally being on cycle it will prolly be a bit worse, use 2-3 caps on empty stomach 40min pre bed
  • ZMA? See above. total waste, spend coin elsewhere
  • NO products? Not sure on this one at all. some are better than others, but save them for PCT when you will need the extra help.

BOLD
 

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Don't mean to hijack, but I'm finishing up running 50/75/75/75/75/75 of hdrol as well. My PCT contains nolva @ 20/20/10/10, DAA, and PCT assist by CEL. My question is for the nolva during 20mg, do you normally split it up like 10mg in the morning and 10mg at night or take it all at once? Also, would pct assist or daa affect absorption or anything like that?
 

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First I'd like to echo titstatus's question. Not sure whether I should he taking Nolva with meals or at what time.

Second. Here is a schedule for my diet/Hdrol/Cycle Assist for the first 2 weeks
Weeks 2- 6 will be almost identical. The only variation being a slight increase in calories if needed.
Are my Hdrol times OK in reference to my Cycle Assist times?

Week 1

6:45 AM
Multi, H-Drol, Fish Oil, Oats n Whey
~500 Calories

11:00 AM
Meal, Cycle Assist
~500 Calories

2:00 PM
Small Meal
~250 Calories

3:15 PM
Lift

5:00 PM
PWS, Fish Oil, H-Drol
~600 Calories

7:00 PM
Meal
~700 Calories

10:30 PM
Small Meal
~250, PCT Assist

Totals
2800 Calories
Hdrol - 50mg
Cycle Assist – 6 caps
Fish Oil - 6 caps

Weeks 2-6
6:45 AM
Multi, H-Drol, Fish Oil, Oats n Whey w/ Banana
~600 Calories

11:00 AM
Meal, Cycle Assist
~500 Calories

2:00 PM
Small Meal, Fish Oil, H-Drol
~300 Calories

3:15 PM
Lift

5:00 PM
PWS
~600 Calories

7:00 PM
Meal, Fish Oil, H-Drol
~750 Calories

10:30 PM
Small Meal
~300, PCT Assist

Totals
3100 Calories
Hdrol - 75mg
Cycle Assist – 8 caps
Fish Oil - 8 caps
 
AaronJP1

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Over 3G creatine seems high.
Plus the stress on kidneys maybe?
Should you really use on cycle?
 

WVUDoak21

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Bump. Any help on my last post. Need to know if my hdrol/cycle assist times are ok.
 
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Bump. Any help on my last post. Need to know if my hdrol/cycle assist times are ok.
Use your cycle assist 3-4 hours apart after your hdrol dose
 

WVUDoak21

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Started my cycle monday. Everythimg seems fine so far. I have a quick question before I get to far into the cycle.

Would USP Labs Anabolic Pump benefit me in any way during the cycle? Seems like a lot of ppl on here like the product and I have 1.5 bottles sitting in the cupboard.

Thanks in advance
 

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