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if you click on the label image it pops up with the full profile, 100mg epi (per serving, each serving 5 caps)How would you know without seeing the other product's label?
if you click on the label image it pops up with the full profile, 100mg epi (per serving, each serving 5 caps)How would you know without seeing the other product's label?
They did a strength study in mice that was successful.that's a hell of a difference, but i guess its needed, i did a little research and saw that mice have 20x more myostatin than humans and thus responded exceptionally well to the epi (reduction in myostatin). would that be the reason for the higher dose? (obviously we're alot bigger than mice)
excellent newsAlso for you UK Guys we have a UK vendor who will have it by the 15th or so approx
yeah i read your posts but wanted my own validation though didn't have alot of time (after reading your posts) so didnt delve too much.They did a strength study in mice that was successful.
Shortly after the same study was repeated in humans with the exact same results.
including huge strength increases in 7 days
49% myostatin decrease and follistatin increase.
I posted several other studies as well.
This is the the only effect.
There are a host of other properties that will significantly improve athletic performance.
oh thanks man. I'm at work so some images don't show up for me and just look like normal posts. Thanks for clarifying!if you click on the label image it pops up with the full profile, 100mg epi (per serving, each serving 5 caps)
Uhhhh ! Who, if i may ask ?Also for you UK Guys we have a UK vendor who will have it by the 15th or so approx
I'm also guessing the dose and extract % in BLRs product is far superior as Brundel was mentioning the high cost to get this high of an extract as in his product.Is this the same stuff in hydroxycut hardcore & UN grenade http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/universal-nutrition/grenade-100-capsules.html
45% epicatechin)
this is great news! i am from europe and with scientific background. i would be glad to log this product as soon as its over the seaWe have a release setup with JW in the UK. THey will have product within a couple weeks I believe.
Unfortunately. No your wrong. Ill let you figure out why instead of telling you. But its pretty obvious.Is this the same stuff in hydroxycut hardcore & UN grenade http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/universal-nutrition/grenade-100-capsules.html
45% epicatechin)
Sorry. no.I think that's just eceg.
I meant in Hydroxycut.Sorry. no.
It costs almost as much as that products retail cost lol.I'm also guessing the dose and extract % in BLRs product is far superior as Brundel was mentioning the high cost to get this high of an extract as in his product.
(-)- ?Unfortunately. No your wrong. Ill let you figure out why instead of telling you. But its pretty obvious.
Should really do better at screening reps over at SNS.
Its green tea standardized for catechins.That's like, green tea extract. It's like $5 in bulk. And when was the last time u heard of someone taking hhe and gettin strong as all funk
Sorry bro, I didnt mean to jump on you. I just replied to another thread defending myself and was a little trigger happyYeah, my point was those fat burners have ECEG as a fat burner so it's not at all the same product.
Bingo(-)- ?
you might want to add it to your label then mate as its missing from there, would stop confusion.Bingo
I plan to.you might want to add it to your label then mate as its missing from there, would stop confusion.
fair enough, i see your point, EM have got it listed incorrectly as well.I plan to.
The confusion is ...sort of intended. Not for the customers but for those looking to follow suit.
This stuff is the real deal and I need as much head start as possible before every company out there starts selling it.
The proper label will be on the bottles and up on NP site.
Im not even sure about the maltodextrin part
I see .. I saw it in a study but not in a label(-)- ?
And I didnt mean to jump on you either.I see .. I saw it in a study but not in a label
We need to let people know everything in the product.fair enough, i see your point, EM have got it listed incorrectly as well.
Do you really need to list the maltodextrin?
Its all good yeah I figured u took ure anger of some1 out on me lolAnd I didnt mean to jump on you either.
Its all SNS reps I was arguing with in the other thread. I saw the tag and became defensive.
Im doing my best to be somewhat discreet while disclosing enough for people to know what we are talking about.
I also posted a ton of studies all regarding (-)- epi.
There are quite a few catechins in green tea.
There is 0 green tea in our product.
Again forgive me my goal is never to be confrontational. I only become so when people try to discredit our products when I know for a fact they work well.Its all good yeah I figured u took ure anger of some1 out on me lol
And I did was saw the label and put it in nutra planet's search box to see if any other product had it
ofcourse its like 20+ ingrident with 500mg of what I searched
I have never said a bad thing about any product until i see logs and then decide to test it myself .. I don't buy into or jump ships, I have a mind and opinion of my own.
Ive had no complaints from your guys form and my cuz tried acnedren
so im looking fwd to the logs
that is true lolWell if it's not an April fools gimmick I'm down. **** the naysayers I've tried your products followed logs...you answer every ****ing question asked of you. Where can I buy?
As you said it is non hormonal, so there should be no reason a female can't use it.I know this isn't a hormone, but any reason a female couldn't use this?
I think this would work Fantastic in women.I know this isn't a hormone, but any reason a female couldn't use this?
LOL! How old are ya?Hope this stuff rocks also for those of us not mainly in it to try it for strength increases but for overall health benefits since getting old sucks.
So far by what I read this product could be good for maintaining muscles, improve condition and stimulate generation of new blood vessels, increasing blood flow (hmm so also good for improving erections?!?), getting more oxygen to body organs and lower bad cholesterol.
You don't need to have old body to feel that your body is not at level it once were - which you confirmed too.LOL! How old are ya?
I'm 42 and even though I'm getting older, it doesn't suck for me. However, it is harder to achieve the results that I got when I was 10 years younger. Just have to work harder for it. Now, THAT sucks!
I dont see any interactions there.I just got off ArA/Anabeta a week or two ago. I won't need to wait or anything to try this out? Also, I'm going to be on a cut using the following:
PES Norcrodrene+Alpha T2
Nimbus Nutrition Reform
Omega Sports Burn24
Creatine/Fish Oil/Multivitamin
Any negative interactions with this product? (Just trying to be safe)
If all is well, I'll probably end up running an unsponsored log of it.
That's good to hear. If I jump on this stuff and log it it'll mainly to comment on maintaining strength (or even increasing it a little) because I'm dropping the cals pretty low (over time though, not at once)I dont see any interactions there.
Also no reason to wait Im not sure about anabetas MOA so I cant comment but I do think youll be ok to jump right into it.
Maybe Cooper will chime in as he probably knows better about the anabeta.
Ultimately I think your good to go though and there is some good evidence for this stuff increasing fat burning.
Most of the big numbers I posted than nobody believes were achieved in caloric deficit.That's good to hear. If I jump on this stuff and log it it'll mainly to comment on maintaining strength (or even increasing it a little) because I'm dropping the cals pretty low (over time though, not at once)
That's what the **** I need. Listen my nutrition is perfect. No matter what when I get into a caloric deficit strength decreases.Most of the big numbers I posted than nobody believes were achieved in caloric deficit.
I started my training partner on Follidrone last night.That's what the **** I need. Listen my nutrition is perfect. No matter what when I get into a caloric deficit strength decreases.
the more info the better, this sounds really promising just need more solid proof.I started my training partner on Follidrone last night.
Hes been on a SERIOUS cut. Hes dropped 35lbs. Down from 268. Hes still an FN monster but hes super shredded and dry now...like fire hazard dry.
His bench press dropped from 465 for reps down to 315 ish. We are gonna track every training session with me there (hes my training partner) and see if his numbers increase during NO CARB days. Hes on 2 low carb~100 carbs days and 1 -0 carb days the repeat. THis is a diet Dave Palumbo setup.
Hes looking pretty good so..the diet is working. Hes upset about his herculean strength dropping though so we are gonna try to revive it under caloric deficit.
Ill keep you guys posted. This stuff worked super fast in other guys. I expect the same here.
Anabeta appears to work through N-alkylamide signaling centrally (LH->T production) and increasing systemic cAMP peripherally (same LBM gaining mechanism as, say, forskolin). I think it'd work fine with follidroneI dont see any interactions there.
Also no reason to wait Im not sure about anabetas MOA so I cant comment but I do think youll be ok to jump right into it.
Maybe Cooper will chime in as he probably knows better about the anabeta.
Ultimately I think your good to go though and there is some good evidence for this stuff increasing fat burning.