Hi everyone!
Didn't want to post this in the supps forum, as it is related, but also more so for a quality of life than supplementing my diet. So a little bit of background.
I have had issues with depression/anxiety for years, and have taken many steps to move forward from this, and am currently recovering from some pretty devastating disorders (depression, anxiety, bulimia, substance abuse). I spent 2 years drinking alcohol and abusing some drugs. I do not have an addictive personality, but more so used those things to cope more than anything. I no longer drink or use any drugs besides kratom for pain and mood enhancement. I am finally back to making progress with bodybuilding after drinking away what I had worked so hard to achieve. I never stopped training, but I could not eat correctly and was constantly killing protein synthesis with alcohol. I am completely sober as of 4 months ago, and even before that I was tapering off of everything to avoid any sort of withdraws. This is something that I normally hide from everyone, but being on a decently anonymous forum with a lot of great people that I have talked to makes me much more comfortable with sharing my story.
So fast forward to today, being a college student, it is very hard to go out and not utilize alcohol. I am looking for some sort of alternative. Not looking for "feeling drunk", but something to help loosen up, relax, and just better enjoy myself without being an anxious wreck. I have been using "potions" sold at a local nutrition store (it is a mix of phenibut and a 10:1 extract of Kanna, or Sceletium, which is a natural SSRI). I absolutely love them, but they are 15 dollars a bottle, and the tolerance to phen grows so quickly, you cannot use it 2 days in a row (like thursday/friday/saturday which is usually when I go out). I know that these ingredients are absolutely amazing for my purposes, but I don't want to develop any sort of dependence on phenibut.
I'm asking if anyone knows anything similar to the potions that I have described, which would ideally be without phenibut, but atleast feel decently similar? I can absolutely go without, I just feel that it would make things much easier on me as I continue to try to stay sober and move forward from my past issues. And before anyone asks, yes I have been working with a doctor on my situation, but this is outside the realm of what the doctor can do.
I totally understand if I get flamed for this, as it is definitely a topic that doesn't get brought up much. Essentially it boils down to an alternative to alcohol when I go out with friends. I know there used to be like potion 9 and stuff like that on the market, I am asking if there is still anything out there that is similar and is preferably not spiked with things like GHB like the originals were?
Thank you to anyone who responds. I ask that you not judge me for my past or my decisions in this.
Didn't want to post this in the supps forum, as it is related, but also more so for a quality of life than supplementing my diet. So a little bit of background.
I have had issues with depression/anxiety for years, and have taken many steps to move forward from this, and am currently recovering from some pretty devastating disorders (depression, anxiety, bulimia, substance abuse). I spent 2 years drinking alcohol and abusing some drugs. I do not have an addictive personality, but more so used those things to cope more than anything. I no longer drink or use any drugs besides kratom for pain and mood enhancement. I am finally back to making progress with bodybuilding after drinking away what I had worked so hard to achieve. I never stopped training, but I could not eat correctly and was constantly killing protein synthesis with alcohol. I am completely sober as of 4 months ago, and even before that I was tapering off of everything to avoid any sort of withdraws. This is something that I normally hide from everyone, but being on a decently anonymous forum with a lot of great people that I have talked to makes me much more comfortable with sharing my story.
So fast forward to today, being a college student, it is very hard to go out and not utilize alcohol. I am looking for some sort of alternative. Not looking for "feeling drunk", but something to help loosen up, relax, and just better enjoy myself without being an anxious wreck. I have been using "potions" sold at a local nutrition store (it is a mix of phenibut and a 10:1 extract of Kanna, or Sceletium, which is a natural SSRI). I absolutely love them, but they are 15 dollars a bottle, and the tolerance to phen grows so quickly, you cannot use it 2 days in a row (like thursday/friday/saturday which is usually when I go out). I know that these ingredients are absolutely amazing for my purposes, but I don't want to develop any sort of dependence on phenibut.
I'm asking if anyone knows anything similar to the potions that I have described, which would ideally be without phenibut, but atleast feel decently similar? I can absolutely go without, I just feel that it would make things much easier on me as I continue to try to stay sober and move forward from my past issues. And before anyone asks, yes I have been working with a doctor on my situation, but this is outside the realm of what the doctor can do.
I totally understand if I get flamed for this, as it is definitely a topic that doesn't get brought up much. Essentially it boils down to an alternative to alcohol when I go out with friends. I know there used to be like potion 9 and stuff like that on the market, I am asking if there is still anything out there that is similar and is preferably not spiked with things like GHB like the originals were?
Thank you to anyone who responds. I ask that you not judge me for my past or my decisions in this.