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Just wondering what some inputs on this topic are didnt find much searching around. Anyone have any experience with this let me know thanks
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Yes I must say Superdrol + LR3 IGF-1 is a POTENT combination.
See IGF-1 can cause muscle cell hyperplasia, however, since these newly formed muscle fibers aren't matured yet, they need the process of hypertrophy to make them bigger and incorporate more myofibrils. When adding IGF-1 with anabolic steroids you are essentially getting the best of both worlds, increased anabolism, and the fact that you are allowing hypertrophy (maturing of the newly formed muscle fibers) to occur at a much faster rate.
Superdrol in itself is an amazing compound, adding IGF-1 will just make the gains more permanent.
You can do what parttimer said. Basically LR3 IGF-1 gains begin to come to a hault at around the 4 week mark. It is still not understand why this occurs although there are a lot of theories out there (they are talked about in the information link at the top of the page). Once you come off IGF-1 you have to wait at least 2 weeks (its believed) to begin using it again so that your body isn't accustomed to it anymore, therefore in an effort to use it during an anabolic steroids cycle AS WELL AS post cycle therapy where it is most effective for allowing you to maintain your gains, you are able to get the best of both worlds .:clap2:
looks like I will be buying another 3 or 4 igf's
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I asked this a bit ago, its called "bookending" or something. Run IGF for 4 weeks, after two weeks of running it start the superdrol and go 4 weeks of superdrol. After the four weeks are up you should have been off IGF for 2, then run IGF for your entire post cycle therapy time, 4 weeks. I just started my IGF portion of the cycle yesterday.
Found the thread:
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/igf-1-gh-slin/44824-bookending-igf-aa-prohormones.html
I have to second what Lake said. superdrol w/ rIGF-1 L3 is a sweet combo indeed. IGF is more synergistic with SD than anadrol for sure.
It's no prob Ronin13. This is my suggestion for a simple, 3wk SD only cycle. I will assume a maximum of 4w/o days per wk. If you w/o more frequently or do the IGF daily, drop the dose to 20mcg.Hey Dr.D - Hate to ask you for some advice... as I know you get this type of question way too often.......
but any suggestions on the best way to approach this? How many mcgs a day, etc... combined with a 3 week of superdrol.
I appreciate your guidance.
It's no prob Ronin13. This is my suggestion for a simple, 3wk superdrol only cycle. I will assume a maximum of 4w/o days per wk. If you w/o more frequently or do the IGF daily, drop the dose to 20mcg.
wk1: 10mg SD, 30mcg IGF post w/o only
wk2: 20mg SD, 30mcg IGF post w/o only
wk3: 20mg SD, 30mcg IGF post w/o only
This has yielded the best results for me.
I'd been doing a M,W,F w/o schedule during PCT, but am starting a new cycle now with a 3on/2off rotation. That means I'll drop from 30mcg to 20. I'll be dosing 3 consecutive days now and 4.5d/wk total on average. So, your plan of 5on/2off is basically what I'm about to try too. I'll let you know how it works, but I think 30mcg is too much for this high of a w/o frequency. I'd aim to keep the total wkly dose to around 100mcg or less and never more than 40mcg in one pop if you wanna milk it as long as possible. For daily use, I'd say 15mcg max. The effects (like hypo) are certainly not as punctuated, but common sides (like organomegaly) can be avoided at this dose and the effects will remain fresh for at least twice as long in my experience. I'm kinda new to IGF too so I'm still in the learning phase as well.Dr D would you rec dose everyday for igf ? Or 5 on 2 off 30mg
Yes, PM me with a link to your log if you decide to do it. If not, please keep me posted anyway. You always take good, detailed readings. :thumbsup:Thank you Dr.D :box:
I will be starting this in July or August. If there is any interest I will of course keep a log.
Yes, PM me with a link to your log if you decide to do it. If not, please keep me posted anyway. You always take good, detailed readings. :thumbsup:
I like to dose everyday 2x a day, just because thats what worked for me in the past, but here's a link that Lake posted on an article about EOD/E3D injections:I'm gonna be running superdrol/Test base/IGF this fall. I only lift twice a week and I'm wondering how I should be running my IGF. My cycle is gonna be 4 weeks in length. Should I still only dose on lifting days or should I dose ED at 15 mcg. I should mention that I'm also going to be running, swimming, doing martial arts, and calisthenics.
Are you gonna run a log?? Cuz you shouldJust my $0.02 but I will be following LMD's suggestion to pin e3d during my cycle in July. I don't think I can go wrong considering the data he posted.
Not so much high carbs, but a steady flow of carbs that are lower GI for an even more steady flow. That would be my guess.Any special dietery considerations for these cycles, Doc? I would think with superdrol and igf high carbs would be very important.
You are quite right. If carbs are not increased accordingly, gains will nor be maximal with this combo.Any special dietery considerations for these cycles, Doc? I would think with superdrol and igf high carbs would be very important.
Are you gonna run a log?? Cuz you should
Nice! I'll definitely keep my eyes out for it.I will definitely consider running a log. I think it could benefit everyone - for me it helps to keep me focused on my goals knowing that some people may really be interesting in seeing the results as well. For everyone else, hopefully it will provide a benchmark or template for their future cycles.
I figured, SD is a glucose vacuum.You are quite right. If carbs are not increased accordingly, gains will nor be maximal with this combo.
It's no prob Ronin13. This is my suggestion for a simple, 3wk superdrol only cycle. I will assume a maximum of 4w/o days per wk. If you w/o more frequently or do the IGF daily, drop the dose to 20mcg.
wk1: 10mg SD, 30mcg IGF post w/o only
wk2: 20mg SD, 30mcg IGF post w/o only
wk3: 20mg SD, 30mcg IGF post w/o only
This has yielded the best results for me.
Go pre-w/o if that worked for you. It just makes me too relaxed to do it that way.I've done two IGF cycles. 1st I always dosed post w/o. Next cycle I always dosed per w/o. I seemed to get 10:1 results with the pre workout. Should I got with what worked in the past. BTW, both IFG cycles were sans anabolic steroids.
Go pre-w/o if that worked for you. It just makes me too relaxed to do it that way.
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