How is this aspartic acid different from intimidate?
Intimidate is NMDA and MFX is NMA. Ill post up more info on the difference later.How is this aspartic acid different from intimidate?
Thanks, I am interested in the difference.Intimidate is NMDA and MFX is NMA. Ill post up more info on the difference later.
They bind at exactly the same strength. NMA, due to lack of levorotary or dextrorotary specification, is a racemic mixture of N-Methyl-Aspartic Acid. So equal potency, 50% less of active ingredientNMA and NMDA bind to the NMDA receptor at very different strengths. I have seen claims here on AM that NMA is 50% the potency of NMDA, however I have not seen studies indicating this personally.
That explains the cost discrepancy. Any reason NMA isn't more common in sports supplements?They bind at exactly the same strength. NMA, due to lack of levorotary or dextrorotary specification, is a racemic mixture of N-Methyl-Aspartic Acid. So equal potency, 50% less of active ingredient
very interesting. not sure why one would go for a 50/50 mix instead of just pure NMDAThey bind at exactly the same strength. NMA, due to lack of levorotary or dextrorotary specification, is a racemic mixture of N-Methyl-Aspartic Acid. So equal potency, 50% less of active ingredient
I believe we are the first company to use it. The big benefit is you can get the same activity as NMDA by doubling the amount for a fraction of the cost. This allows you to bring the retail cost down for the customer. You will see a lot more of this ingredient from other companies soon. The licensing company is doing a lot of marketing in trade magazines.That explains the cost discrepancy. Any reason NMA isn't more common in sports supplements?
Makes senseI believe we are the first company to use it. The big benefit is you can get the same activity as NMDA by doubling the amount for a fraction of the cost. This allows you to bring the retail cost down for the customer. You will see a lot more of this ingredient from other companies soon. The licensing company is doing a lot of marketing in trade magazines.
It sounds inefficient, right? But it's not. The DL is actually the superior form.very interesting. not sure why one would go for a 50/50 mix instead of just pure NMDA
I assume you are referencing this study (journalofanimalscience. org/content/74/3/597.long) where 2.5 mg/kg of NMA was equivalent to 1.25 mg/kg NMDA? Since 50% of NMA is NMDA, it makes sense.That's my point. One can say these isomers are 'less effectively effluxed', but that wording is somewhat misleading. It makes it sound as if some check valve is incorporated into the efflux mechanism. To say that they are more effectively accumulated and retained seems like a more accurate way to state it, though I don't wish to sound trivial and do appreciate your insights.
How would you account for the high relative potency of NMA compared to NMDA? Granted, the results must be considered using swine data, but it's a fascinating result. The d-isomer possessed 100% activity (the standard), the quantitative equivalent of the l-isomer yielded 0% activity, and the racemic compound demonstrated 72% potency. Interesting, no?
Pharmacologically, NMA would be considered less efficient, half as potent, although producing equivalent effectiveness when adjusted for dosage.In studies conducted previously (Barb et al., 1992; Chang et al., 1993; Estienne et al., 1989, 1990a, 1995), NMA was used with no attempt to determine which specific isomer(s) (i.e., d and[or] l) was responsible for increasing blood concentrations of GH. We report here that the d-NMA stimulates GH hypersecretion. In Exp. 2, injection of the pure dNMA, at a dose of 1.25 mg/kg of BW, increased serum concentrations of GH in a manner comparable to that after treatment with NMA at a dose of 2.5 mg/kg of BW. In contrast, injection of the pure l-NMA, at a dose of 1.25 mg/kg of BW, did not increase serum concentrations of GH.
Yes it is. Some on here have said its dosed more than appropriately. If Mass FX Black is one thing is dosed correctly for each ingredient. You could spend more on a competing product and just get NMDA or just get Divanil, or you can buy Mass FX Black and get multiple products in one, dosed properly for about the same price or less.So in laymen terms, the new MassFX is NMA is dosed appropriately?
question for dr. D or AX reps. Is it necessary to take a ai product like low dose erase alongside to keep estrogen controled?? I ask cause i know daa raises test but estrogen too, Also is it fine to go 8 weeks on it since it is daa?? the most ive heard recommended around here is 30 day cycles for daa products. Will 8 weeks mess too much w the hormone numbers?? or is it fine?Chainsaw,
Yes, at 3 caps/day the dose supplies the conventional 30mg amount of NMDA that most users agree is equivalent in effect to 3g DAA. Actually 3 caps supplies 33.75mg, which is slightly higher than the conventional dose by a little over 10%.
At 4 caps, MFXB supplies 45mg of NMDA (equal to ~4.5g DAA) which is exactly 1.5x more than the conventional dose. This is designed for heavier users over 70kg, or those who wish to utilize higher amounts than are currently available with other products. It's a nice option because you don't have to buy an additional bottle to make use of the maximum amount.
I haven't see anything to suggest NMA induces aromatase. Mass FX Black has an "AI" (7-methoxyflavone) which is effective for a flavone, though that's not saying much of anything. I'd run it 3 caps per day and take a 2-4 week break between bottles. It's a pretty well-rounded formula but you want to keep the NMA/Zinc doses lower than what they're at via 4 capsquestion for dr. D or AX reps. Is it necessary to take a ai product like low dose erase alongside to keep estrogen controled?? I ask cause i know daa raises test but estrogen too, Also is it fine to go 8 weeks on it since it is daa?? the most ive heard recommended around here is 30 day cycles for daa products. Will 8 weeks mess too much w the hormone numbers?? or is it fine?
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not that it might raise aromatase but with daa products, the surge in natural test will cause estrogen to raise as well.I haven't see anything to suggest NMA induces aromatase. Mass FX Black has an "AI" (7-methoxyflavone) which is effective for a flavone, though that's not saying much of anything. I'd run it 3 caps per day and take a 2-4 week break between bottles. It's a pretty well-rounded formula but you want to keep the NMA/Zinc doses lower than what they're at via 4 caps
Indeed it will. You can boost the T:E ratio by using something like PES Erase. Is it necessary? No. Is it beneficial? Yesnot that it might raise aromatase but with daa products, the surge in natural test will cause estrogen to raise as well.
How would you dose these coop? 1 am 2 pre-bed?Indeed it will. You can boost the T:E ratio by using something like PES Erase. Is it necessary? No. Is it beneficial? Yes
All 3 upon rising for me. It's suicidal so timing isn't a huge dealHow would you dose these coop? 1 am 2 pre-bed?
Sounds good. ThanksAll 3 upon rising for me. It's suicidal so timing isn't a huge deal