I understand you wanting to support the company you rep for, but you are going about it in a very unprofessional way. If your product is as good as you claim, and it is likely great quality, why not let it sell itself rather than attack other companies.
I am not going to get into an argument with you over it. We dont even make M-Drol anymore, but fact is every batch of raws of the product ever were tested for quality before it was produced, then tested by a seperate facility after production for both quality and correct mg per capsule. And all batches always tested out. If you have information to prove otherwise, you or your boss are welcome to email me and we can compare test results. In my opinion, that would be the professional manner of handling things, and I eagerly await to see if such a correspondence will actually ever come.
I agree completely. If even 10% of M-Drol had ever been bad, you would see alot more threads/comments than you do. There has never been a bad batch of M-Drol. Just like when stuff like this got said last year, and we had a testing facility buy a random bottle and retest that particular batch for a 3rd time and it tested out. We go well beyond any other company that I am aware of that makes ph's in terms of testing, but it will never be enough to appease some people.
Fact is, no product/compound/etc will work for everyone. Especially is something is off about someones diet, training, etc. Alot of people falsely believe you can look at a ph and gain 10 lbs and thats simply not true. If you look at the amount of M-Drol that was sold and compare it to the amount of people who say they didnt respond, you would easily see less than 1% say they didnt respond to it.
And you are right. People that get great results generally dont take as much time to post. But anyone that doesnt generally will. That is not just about M-Drol but about any supp.
See my first reply to you. If you actually have a report that says that, I would love for you, or preferably your boss to discuss it with me in private because we have reports that show otherwise. And I would be glad to compare results with him.
And again, I know you are trying to promote your product, but its sad that you have to try to do so in such a manner. Superdrol clones work for most people. Focus on the positives of you guys own products rather than trying to bash other peoples. It is generally a much more effective long term business model.
There is alot of misinformation in your post. I am sure you meant well, but we are based on the East Coast so I have no idea what you are talking about about being a non-us company.
E-Stane had alot of positive reviews, and all batches were tested. With E-Stane as well as other epi clones, there are some people that just dont do well off of epi (As can be the case with any other ph).
The label issue you mention has been beat to death. SNS labeled their Methyl Drol product that way as did several other companies, so we used that way of spelling as a name for the compound. AX even acknowledged that it was a fine way to spell the name out, and that it was a Superdrol clone. We then had even asked PA about the spelling and he said it was fine to put it on the label that way. There are many different ways one can spell out the name of most of these compounds.
What you wrote about the M1,4ADD situation was over 3 years ago and was explained, and there was a PDF posted from the testing facility stating it was their fault. We sent raws to be tested, and they tested them incorrectly. We recalled the entire batch and made things right. That also lead to every batch of raws we use being tested by two seperate facilities which makes the M-Drol rumor thing to be even more ridiculous. The M-Drol that you see on the market now was made long ago, as we havent made it in some time. The raws for it were tested by PA's company, and the capsulated product was tested by another facility. It is ironic that people can somehow think that two different facilities made a mistake, yet it is some of the same people that never even ask other companies for their lab reports.
And again, you state that CEL is a non-US company which is just a straight lie. And by the way, I'm the sales manager and get about a hundred emails and pm's from here a week, so I'm sure there are plenty of people on AM that know exactly how easy we are to get in touch with lol. And being that the owner sits one office down from me, and he's a a pale skinned white guy, so not much foreign about that lol
Unrealmachine didnt have the results he wanted to off of M-Drol. We provided test results for that batch. To go a step further, we even had a testing facility order a bottle of that batch and test it again, and they did, and we posted the results. We even offered to go a step further than that and had offered that anyone that was posting in that thread that had a sealed bottle could send it for testing and we'd pay for it. Condition was, it had to be a sealed bottle. It was funny that with all the bitching going on, not a single person took us up on that.
DHEA situation explained above. We pay testing facilities for a reason, and if they make errors, all we can do is make things right, which we did. And as I said, it lead to all batches being tested by two seperate facilities. We didnt hide from the issue; we instead approached PA and asked him to test our raws himself as a backup so to make sure no issues ever happened again.
And throwing out an accusation that isnt true is poor taste as well. And if you do have such a report, I encourage you to contact us and we can show our documentation on whichever batch you are referring to as well.
Also, I hope you see that this is a very professional reply. I am not trying to argue with you at all. I have addressed every point that was made, and made the offer for you or your boss to get in touch in private and discuss whatever it is that you claim to have, and I will gladly show you the paperwork on our end as well.
And I would really encourage you guys to focus on building your brand by focusing on the positive attributes of your own rather than trying to down competitors, whether it be us or anyone else. While it may make for entertaining forum drama sometimes, it is a turn off to a large amount of customers. You can look at the success and failures of other companies that have implemented that type of approach at times to see what I mean.