[log] Eat Clen, Tren Hard

[Monsta65]

Sorry man I havent been on here lately, Ive been getting ready for a move so with work and packing and helping with kids I havent had much time to get on here and post. Just read through some of your stuff and wanna say keep it up bro im here to support you. when I get all moved in and ready I will be on here like i started out in the first place.

 

[threeFs]

Sorry man I havent been on here lately, Ive been getting ready for a move so with work and packing and helping with kids I havent had much time to get on here and post. Just read through some of your stuff and wanna say keep it up bro im here to support you. when I get all moved in and ready I will be on here like i started out in the first place.

Cool man, thanks. I know all about moving...11 times in the last 13 years

 

[Monsta65]

Cool man, thanks. I know all about moving...11 times in the last 13 years

damn man that sure is alot of moving

 

[xFireBullx]

Also been a while for a while... come back and catchup to a lot of epic post. Looks like your cycle is going more than great!

 

[threeFs]

Also been a while for a while... come back and catchup to a lot of epic post. Looks like your cycle is going more than great!

Thanks man, so far so good. PR's are always awesome. I'm not quite 1/3 through so lots of time to go

 

[threeFs]

Day 22...rest day. Final exams, no time off in my schedule

Day 23, about to hit test/tren/mast/deca

Had some Trensomnia last night, awake from 1-3am. It's weird because when I am sleeping, I have dreams but I don't feel like I'm sleeping that deep. Then up for 2 hrs, then slept for another 2. But the weird thing is that I'm not dragging now, feel well rested.

I also bought a portable air conditioner machine yesterday, put it right next to my bed. That's hilarious, no night sweats here anymore.
About $280 when it's all said and done.

Going to the gym this morning. School is over for summer!!

Oh, another note is that my low back has been tight for about a week and a half. I can barely out on socks. I need to stretch more but its crazy tight. Never had that before, but also never squatted above 275 before either

 

[threeFs]

New squat PR today. The other day I hit 405x1, today I hit 405x2. Also 315x8x2 was a PR for reps and 2 sets. I lifted some other leg stuff, pullups, and hanging leg raises until I started seeing stars and my ears started ringing. That's the beginning of these migraines I sometimes get where I lose my vision. I think it's from high bp. But today I told myself that's not going to happen, and I recovered. Overall, a hard and fast 49 minutes.
It's funny being one of the shortest guys there at 5'9 and lifting heavier than most. I've only seen 1 guy squat 405 and he had knee wraps, belt, wrist wraps...what a clown. And all that for 1-2 partial reps.
I will say the sides aren't really any big deal, and the progress is impressive.

 

[Lukef2000]

I can't wait to start tren in a few weeks!!! 405lb is my goal for squats! That's serious weight! Good work man!

 

[xFireBullx]

I can't wait to start tren in a few weeks!!! 405lb is my goal for squats! That's serious weight! Good work man!

405 is my goal too.

How I wish I was on tren!
I'm on week 9 of my test cycle. Wish I would have ran tren with it!!

 

[threeFs]

I can't wait to start tren in a few weeks!!! 405lb is my goal for squats! That's serious weight! Good work man!

Thanks man. I remember a few months ago I could barely squat 275. It's almost unreal the gains. You will get it. I squat 2x/week minimum. It's one of my favorites

405 is my goal too.

How I wish I was on tren!
I'm on week 9 of my test cycle. Wish I would have ran tren with it!!

Enjoy your test run man! Ain't no shame in a test cycle! I benched 350 on a test only cycle and my Max before test was 275

 

[Monsta65]

New squat PR today. The other day I hit 405x1, today I hit 405x2. Also 315x8x2 was a PR for reps and 2 sets. I lifted some other leg stuff, pullups, and hanging leg raises until I started seeing stars and my ears started ringing. That's the beginning of these migraines I sometimes get where I lose my vision. I think it's from high bp. But today I told myself that's not going to happen, and I recovered. Overall, a hard and fast 49 minutes.
It's funny being one of the shortest guys there at 5'9 and lifting heavier than most. I've only seen 1 guy squat 405 and he had knee wraps, belt, wrist wraps...what a clown. And all that for 1-2 partial reps.
I will say the sides aren't really any big deal, and the progress is impressive.

This is awesome bro, keep it up that is great stuff.

 

[threeFs]

Day 24
Since it's my first day off for 9 weeks or so, I decided to bump the tren to 100 today. If sides get worse, I will go back to 70. I have been sleeping OK, wake up at least once per night. I am hot all the time but that's to be expected with the clen, t3, and tren.

I actually haven't been hitting the clen much. It makes my BP too high when I take a pwo drink. So if I had to choose pwo vs clen, pwo wins every time. But I did take some ketotifen last night to see if it helped me sleep through. Negative! But I will try it again tonight a bit higher.

 

[Monsta65]

Since it's my first day off for 9 weeks or so, I decided to bump the tren to 100 today. If sides get worse, I will go back to 70. I have been sleeping OK, wake up at least once per night. I am hot all the time but that's to be expected with the clen, t3, and tren.

I actually haven't been hitting the clen much. It makes my BP too high when I take a pwo drink. So if I had to choose pwo vs clen, pwo wins every time. But I did take some ketotifen last night to see if it helped me sleep through. Negative! But I will try it again tonight a bit higher.

It seems like what you are doing is going great, just keep it up bud

 

[threeFs]

97 minutes lifting today! What???
I started off ignoring my super tight low back and decided I wanted to test my deadlift PR. Nope, not happening. I could barely move 405, hobbling around like an old man. But upper back felt good so I destroyed it. Too many lifts to name, but I did a good job. Plate loaded rows hold max 6 on each side, so I did 5 sets of 10. Cable row up to stack 300, 2 sets of 6 (and 4 lighter sets). Lots more lifts. I can't believe I did all that fasted.
Now I'm trying to loosen this up on the foam roller. I can barely get shorts on without holding on to something. G-A-Y

 

[threeFs]

Day 25

Trying like hell to hold this tren cough right now. When I aspirated, there was a tiny drop of blood. Seems like I know how to cause this interesting breathing/lung experience.
I also blasted 250mg of test. I'm finding that if the tren is too much higher than test, there's hard on problems. 50-60% hard and doesn't stay for long at all.
So I upped the test for today only, then I think my sweet spot was 200/wk test and 50-60/day tren. I don't want to run tren at 100/day if it means I have to run test at 400/wk. I don't want to run that much test because of blood pressure. But I do need dis dik to function at 100% because wifey has me penciled in for tonight. Oh married life and scheduled sex...well at least I have time for this test to kick in.

About sleep...I can barely keep my eyes open at 830pm, so that's when I go to bed. Too tired to read, just instant sleep. I've been waking up about 3-4 hours in, then back to sleep. Usually I've been waking up 1-2 more times as well. I take zma, 5htp, prami which together has been knocking me out. Last night I added ketotifen just to see if that would make me sleep through. Nope. No difference, just dragging ass this morning. I've been taking a 20 minute nap around 1pm for years (weekends only) but now that I'm off for the summer, my nap has been daily. And it's a hard deep nap, more like 40-60 minutes. My daughters nap then, so it's perfect. But before, 20 minutes and I woke up refreshed. Now, 40-60 and I could sleep another 40-60. I'm hoping the increased test will combat this. I did feel my best with less tren, so that's where I will get back to. Good to see the law of diminishing returns. I have found my sweet spot.

 

[Monsta65]

WOW, you are totally kicking ass bro. Keep it up reading your stuff is really motivational

 

[threeFs]

WOW, you are totally kicking ass bro. Keep it up reading your stuff is really motivational

Thanks man. I try to keep a detailed log to help. I see lots of abandoned logs or logs that are lacking details. There are lots of variables and I just want to put it all out there, see what works and hypothesize on what doesn't.
Thanks for following!

 

[threeFs]

AC and fans :1
Night sweats: 0

 

[Lukef2000]

AC and fans :1
Night sweats: 0

<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=82095"/>

If that's all it takes to beat the night sweats I'm set, I sleep with AC year round!

 

[threeFs]

A couple things I learned today...
here's a copy/paste
well as several other aminos, is used in HUGE quantities when your rate of anabolism is very high...(TREN IS ONE THAT WILL KEEP RATE OF ANABOLISM HIGH, IN SPITE OF 'BOTTLENECKS'... DBOL IS THIS WAY TOO(this is why they cause HORRIBLE hearburn, than no proton inhibitors(acid reflux meds) can touch.. the reason being, your stomach lining is being sacrificed)....

Now, if taking a good amt of glutamine(i would start with 25g/day, in addition to what you are taking in... until the symptoms have ceased, then you can lower it slightly to find your 'sweet spot') doesn't help.... It could be liver enzymes..... they can make you feel hungry to to point of nauseous.. then you cant eat **** when you try to eat... and if it is something fatty(it happens more with fatty food... but can happen with any) it's usually worse(if its liver enzyme related...)

I would try the glutamine first, this is usually the case with tren... if you don't have a good amt of relief in 4 days or so... get bloodwork done!

The guy I recommended this to(glutamine) the other day, felt exponentially better in 2 days... and it just got better and better....

One thing, don't let glutamine sit in water long at all after it is mixed.... it can turn to ammonia(among other things)

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SO... I drank about 25g of glutamine mixed with creatine, taurine, sodium bicarbonate, and Condense PWO. I took fish oil, tudca, liv52, multi, potassium, ALA. That's all my standard except for the glutamine. That's a lot of glutamine, made me nauseus through most of my training. I could have puked several times. I had the thick spit and everything. But I got through it, the fish burps, rumbly stomach, and nausea and did squats for about 40 minutes.
405 is no longer my PR. I hit 410x1 today. These little 2 1/2's were on the floor and I thought I'd just chuck those on.
135, 225, 315x8x2, 405x3, 410x1, 315x5, 225x8
Part of the reason it took so long was the nausea, and the BS way these amateurs stack the plates. 45's on the middle, 35's and 5's mixed, etc. I can't stand that so I make it right. I also had to stop 2x to almost puke and whatever else.

After that, standing ab rollouts, single quad extensions, and stretching. 90+ minutes fasted lifts, stronger than ever.

This is one of my favorite PR setting songs...max volume "Son of a bitch I'm going to break you!!" (3:06 to the end)
[video=youtube;GZsT30tOUFg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZsT30tOUFg[/video]

 

[xFireBullx]

Enjoy your test run man! Ain't no shame in a test cycle! I benched 350 on a test only cycle and my Max before test was 275


Thanks man. I try to keep a detailed log to help. I see lots of abandoned logs or logs that are lacking details. There are lots of variables and I just want to put it all out there, see what works and hypothesize on what doesn't.
Thanks for following!

No shame in my test cycle at all. This is my 2nd cycle ever, both have been test. I just feel so left out reading on all the tren cycles haha.

Appreciate the detailed log btw. I love detailed logs, especially because I read logs for research. To help me plan my cycles and know what to expect. Detailed logs help soooo much because I can see the different dosages/experiences with it, so thank you!

Great song btw! I love setting PR's to Lamb of God! About to hit legs as well. Might attempt 405!

 

[vassille]

Sounds like you having a good ole time with tren
If you have any question let me know bro otherwise skimming through your log looks like things are ok

 

[threeFs]

Sounds like you having a good ole time with tren
If you have any question let me know bro otherwise skimming through your log looks like things are ok

Lots of learning. Not sure how much I'm actually cutting bf% but strength gains are way more than I planned. Thanks for your input

 

[Monsta65]

Great job on your PR on squat thats awesome keep it up and that song is really intense

 

[threeFs]

Great job on your PR on squat thats awesome keep it up and that song is really intense

Thanks Monsta! Yeah, the music...I need some loud and heavy when moving 400+ lbs. The Justin Bieber that the gym plays ain't cutting it. But some dude screaming in my ears that I'm so set to fail? That's the challenge I'm willing to accept.
What gets you fired up? What's your PR anthems?

 

[threeFs]

Day 26 (warning: shameless penis talk)

I'm skipping the tren today. There's too much tren in my body and it's ruined my ability to get hard. I can't seem to beat it with 2mg's prami/night and with exemestane. So that big 125mg test shot yesterday and 100mg masteron today will hopefully tip the scales back to balanced. When I started this cycle at lower tren, my dk was hard all night and I couldn't stop thinking about sex. Now, not interested in sex and 50% strength in the hard ons I get if at all.

BUT... one of the reasons I went with the short tren ester (acetate) is because of it's quick metabolism. So there already is some positive penile progress. I'm back thinking about sex all the time, but the body is not fully ready for war just yet.
I'm hoping I'm all tuned up by tonight so I can bang my wife. Was supposed to be last night but she went to bed at 8 so I didn't have to make an excuse. I did try on my own but I ended up just shaking my head in disappointment. Then did the walk of shame back to the couch...
At least the Blackhawks won! Tonight is my turn to win!

EDIT...oh, I drank 2 red bull and vodkas last night. That's not the reason for the limp noodle, however it was a dumb idea for many reasons. 5 pm drink, still wired at 10pm. I had to drink nyquil to get to sleep. Otherwise I would have been up for days.
Never again. I think deep down I'm freaking out about my wife's layoff and our money situation. I know alcohol is not a solution and only causes more problems.
I just want to go lift. So that's what I'm going to do.

 

[threeFs]

I cannot drink glutamine. The nausea is fkd up. I could vomit.

 

[IronDave2k13]

Nice read so far, keep up the good work.

 

[Lukef2000]

Day 26 (warning: shameless penis talk)

I'm skipping the tren today. There's too much tren in my body and it's ruined my ability to get hard. I can't seem to beat it with 2mg's prami/night and with exemestane. So that big 125mg test shot yesterday and 100mg masteron today will hopefully tip the scales back to balanced. When I started this cycle at lower tren, my dk was hard all night and I couldn't stop thinking about sex. Now, not interested in sex and 50% strength in the hard ons I get if at all.

BUT... one of the reasons I went with the short tren ester (acetate) is because of it's quick metabolism. So there already is some positive penile progress. I'm back thinking about sex all the time, but the body is not fully ready for war just yet.
I'm hoping I'm all tuned up by tonight so I can bang my wife. Was supposed to be last night but she went to bed at 8 so I didn't have to make an excuse. I did try on my own but I ended up just shaking my head in disappointment. Then did the walk of shame back to the couch...
At least the Blackhawks won! Tonight is my turn to win!

EDIT...oh, I drank 2 red bull and vodkas last night. That's not the reason for the limp noodle, however it was a dumb idea for many reasons. 5 pm drink, still wired at 10pm. I had to drink nyquil to get to sleep. Otherwise I would have been up for days.
Never again. I think deep down I'm freaking out about my wife's layoff and our money situation. I know alcohol is not a solution and only causes more problems.
I just want to go lift. So that's what I'm going to do.

Damn man that is rough! Lucky it's acetate so it should get sorted pretty quick! Honestly IMO libido loss is the only side I can't handle! Bloat, gyno, insomnia, night sweats / terrors I can handle but a dead dong now that's not cool! Hope you get that ish sorted homi!

 

[threeFs]

Damn man that is rough! Lucky it's acetate so it should get sorted pretty quick! Honestly IMO libido loss is the only side I can't handle! Bloat, gyno, insomnia, night sweats / terrors I can handle but a dead dong now that's not cool! Hope you get that ish sorted homi!

All is well in the Land of Penis. No tren yesterday, another test kick of 125, and it's puberty all over again.
Tren today at 60 and more info later

 

[EatMoar]

Thanks Monsta! Yeah, the music...I need some loud and heavy when moving 400+ lbs. The Justin Bieber that the gym plays ain't cutting it. But some dude screaming in my ears that I'm so set to fail? That's the challenge I'm willing to accept.
What gets you fired up? What's your PR anthems?

Lol my gym.****ing plays Justin bieber and house music. My headphones broke mid workout I swear my concentration was trashed after that. Picked up a new pair and death metal to the rescue!

 

[vassille]

Lots of learning. Not sure how much I'm actually cutting bf% but strength gains are way more than I planned. Thanks for your input

Sure bro, tren is strong and the strength gains from it happens very quickly and one day you barely lift a certain weight next time in the gym same weight is like peanuts. Crazy shiet.
I hate those night sweats too...sometimes I try not too eat too much before bed and it seems to help.

 

[threeFs]

Sure bro, tren is strong and the strength gains from it happens very quickly and one day you barely lift a certain weight next time in the gym same weight is like peanuts. Crazy shiet.
I hate those night sweats too...sometimes I try not too eat too much before bed and it seems to help.

Yeah, especially carbs makes me much hotter at night

 

[threeFs]

Lol my gym.****ing plays Justin bieber and house music. My headphones broke mid workout I swear my concentration was trashed after that. Picked up a new pair and death metal to the rescue!

It will ruin a man's day wont it

 

[threeFs]

Not much to report today, rest day. Tren, deca, masteron.

Triple bacon cheeseburger for lunch. No longer hungry

 

[Monsta65]

Not much to report today, rest day. Tren, deca, masteron.

Triple bacon cheeseburger for lunch. No longer hungry

well glad to see that you got the day off and damn thats one heck of a lunch lol

 

[threeFs]

well glad to see that you got the day off and damn thats one heck of a lunch lol

But I'm paying for it this morning!

 

[IronDave2k13]

That burger is freaking huge lol. Im hungry now

 

[threeFs]

note to self...inject before clen

 

[booneman77]

Hell of a log you've got going here man. Def subbed for the haul. Keep crushing those pr's and keep those tren notes coming. Loving hearing all the experiences from the various levels

 

[thyrod]

note to self...inject before clen

Haha no kidding. Thinking how bad the shaking+ inj could be lol.

 

[Lukef2000]

note to self...inject before clen

Hahah lesson learned I take it!

 

[threeFs]

A superb training session today. Sweating rain from all the clen/t3/pwo and all the other stuff I'm pumping into myself. I'm serious though, injecting after the clen kicked in was retarded. Picture a sewing machine needle going in and out. Haha.
I did tons on pullups, some biceps. Pump in my arms was almost painful. It was funny for me. Then 5 sets of dead lifts. My low back and hamstrings have been stupid tight and that's been the reason I have to stop deads after less sets than I'd like. Low back bastard. I did a ton of stretching on the ghd and foam roller. I wasn't tight like this before the tren.

Also partially the humidity but mostly the tren, I feel like I'm breathing through a straw. After deads at 315 and 405 I was huffing like I ran a marathon.
I forgot what else I was going to add...

Thanks to the new bros following along. I still have another 10ml of tren plus the 2-3 left in this vial. Tren and I have become really good friends

 

[Monsta65]

wow that is a huge burger bro

 

[threeFs]

Oh...dips! 3 sets of 12 body weight and 2 sets with the 75db that was on the floor, just because it was there. Easy! But my shoulder reminds me now that was a bad idea

 

[threeFs]

wow that is a huge burger bro

Man, that + fries+ drink $12! I thought fast food was cheap but I guess not

 

[Monsta65]

Man, that + fries+ drink $12! I thought fast food was cheap but I guess not

Damn, that is really high. Yea once you think about it their is not one thing good about fast food lol its bad for your health and wallet

 

[threeFs]

Update pic, before training this morning
Not sure how much fat I'm losing but strong like bull

 

[threeFs]

Day 30 already?
Squats NEW PR AGAIN!! 425x2. Whoa, that bar had a nice bend.
135 (almost a waste of time)
225x8
315x8x2
405x5
415x4 (PR)
425x2 (PR!)
425x1

Then plate loaded leg press a bunch of sets up to 10 plates each side x 7 (PR?)

It's crazy this cycle!! All fasted training btw

 

[threeFs]

When it's around 4-5-6pm and 80+ degrees outside, all I want is to be cold. I'm just hot...all the time (except for sleeping in 67°)
I might skip the clen and T3 today.... but a big test shot coming. I'm going to hit 250 test/50 mast/60 tren. My libido fluctuates on a dime when I need more test. I've been hitting the exemestane every day so this test shot should be just about perfect