Started this thread so we can end the old Iraq thread.
Should US attack Iran?
Should US attack Iran?
Wrong they have the s-300PMU-1 and s-300PMU-2Iran does not have S-300. They have Tor-M1. No one is talking about a ground war with Iran, they're talking about Jericho IIIs and F-15s
That's what I say, get the heck out of there and keep tabs on them.Fifth option: stay completely out of it. Wish Iran as well as every other nation in the middle east good luck. Pull our troops out, let them hack and maim and stone and female circumcize themselves to death. So long as they don't bother us, keep a happy face and trade porn and sausage for oil.
Where did you read that sa-20s have been delivered? The Iranian Air Force and "navy" are about as capable as an 8 year old's ****, only good for taking a leak. Those f-14s haven't been in the air in ages and even if they managed to get one up, it wouldn't be up for long. They only have 25 of them for christ sakes. They would have to cannibalize 20 of them to get 5 to fly. You give Iran way too much credit. Sukhois to Iran? I would love to see that actually happen but I doubt it ever will. Guess where all the 'reports' about that sale come from? That's right, Israeli news, and I haven't seen anything about it in almost 2 years. Additionally, if it were true, our JSF allies wouldn't be getting a dumbed down version.Wrong they have the s-300PMU-1 and s-300PMU-2
along with s-200 and manyTOR m1's.
Israel won't be able to strike Iran with either f-15i's or f-16i's without accepting some serious losses. Both of these aircraft have massive RCS's and will be detected long before they are in striking distance. Anti-radiation missile won't work either because Tor-m1 is capable of intercepting those. Plus they must face off with Mig-29's and older f-14's as well.
They also have a supercavitation torpedo called the "hoot" which is potentially a variant of the Russian Shkval. This torpedo moves way too fast(360 km/h) for any ship to out maneuver it. Basically an underwater missile.
In the works right now, Iran is or has ordered Russian SU-30MKM's a very formidable aircraft and far superior to f-15/16s. Potentially, also Chinese fighter craft as well. Their economy has not been struck by the worldwide downturn either so they will be functioning well for years to come.
In my opinion Israel want's to have complete dominance in the region, they even prevented the sale of f-15's to Saudi Arabia along with other weapons, and we had to strip them of offensive capability and had them used only for defensive purposes.
Iran will not fire missiles at Israel, and will not give material to be used as a dirty bomb because all fingers will point to him right away. One missile and his country will be obliterated.
As mentioned before Pakistan does have Nukes and plenty of radicals waiting to seize control of the Government, so I think they are a threat more than Iran.
Their drones survey the aircraft carrier group for 25mins before detection. So I don't think they are totally incapable.Where did you read that sa-20s have been delivered? The Iranian Air Force and "navy" are about as capable as an 8 year old's ****, only good for taking a leak. Those f-14s haven't been in the air in ages and even if they managed to get one up, it wouldn't be up for long. They only have 25 of them for christ sakes. They would have to cannibalize 20 of them to get 5 to fly. You give Iran way too much credit. Sukhois to Iran? I would love to see that actually happen but I doubt it ever will. Guess where all the 'reports' about that sale come from? That's right, Israeli news, and I haven't seen anything about it in almost 2 years. Additionally, if it were true, our JSF allies wouldn't be getting a dumbed down version.
Let's also not forget that both Russia and Iran have denied this deal. If it were true, why would they deny it? They didn't deny the initial sa-20 agreement...
There's also very little threat of Iran selling material. Since 2002 there have been over 300 seizures of radiological material that was attempted to be sold or smuggled. I think the intelligence community is doing just fine.
It's not really a threat at all in my opinion.Is this really an "imminent conflict"? I don't see it happening anytime soon.
First off, this guy is retarded. The statements that Adminijab has made ARE TRUE. In news confrences he has said indefinetly that the US and Isreal are DEVIL/SATAN incarnate. He also widely states without holding anything back the holocaust was a fallacy and never happend. As far as a ground war with Iran, that will never happen. We have way way way way too much technology to waste precious american lives. This is what is going to happen. Obama, even though he did put an extension of the departure date from Iraq, the US, regardless, will be leaving Iraq. Once that happens, all hell will break loose. Iraq, will never never never ever be a stabilized country. Democracy will not work in a place where people do not want it. Same with south vietnam. We forced democracy on them and we ended up being attacked by south vietnamese terrorist groups because they didn't want us to be there in the first place. When we leave Iraq, it will be open season. Either hezbollah, or some other terrorist group, or worse Iran, will take over Iraq and all the so called progress that has been made will be destroyed. When Iran takes over Iraq it will continue to destroy the countries that stand in its way IOW, Isreal. Most of the worlds oil control will be in the hands of one of the most sinnical and tyranny crazed men in the world. I know this sounds irrational but it will happen because no one will stand in Adminijabs way. Their will never be peace in the Middle east because the Jews hate Arabs, and the Arabs hate the Jews. Its been this way since biblical times. And you laugh nopeace but its starting to add up. Obama and the world leaders already want a one world currency. Im not a bible thumper by any means, but don't discredit it whole heartedly cause some of it makes sense. But anyone that trys to make Adminijab look like a good guy has something wrong with them. That guy should never ever have acess to nuclear weapons.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXpytv61STw
Interesting point of view about how our media is smearing Ahadiajed (whatever! Spelling)
George Galloway has personally seen much of what has happened in the middle east. He notices vast differences in media. He is a member of th British parliament so he's not that "retarded".
First off, this guy is retarded. The statements that Adminijab has made ARE TRUE. In news confrences he has said indefinetly that the US and Isreal are DEVIL/SATAN incarnate.
These are some statements from interviews:
"Death to _____ statements" in Farsi it is closely translated to "down with" not death to.
Holocaust denying claim"
September 2006 with NBC Nightly News Anchor Brian Williams
Ahmadinejad clarified his remarks, saying that when he called the Holocaust a myth he was merely trying to communicate that it was not just Jews that died, but millions of people and he wants to know why it is the Palestinian people that have to pay for the Nazis' slaughter of the Jewish people.
"In the second World War, over 60 million people lost their lives. They were all human beings. Why is it that only a select group of those who were killed have become so prominent and important? Do you think that the 60 million who lost their lives were all at the result of warfare alone? There were two million that were part of the military at the time, perhaps altogether, 50 million civilians with no roles in the war — Christians, Muslims. They were all killed. The second and more important question that I raised was, if this event happened, and if it is a historical event, then we should allow everyone to research it and study it. The more research and studies are done, the clearer the issue gets. We still leave open to further studies absolute knowledge of science or math. Historical events are always subject to revisions, and reviews and studies. We're still revising our thoughts about what happened over thousands of years ago. Why is it that researchers are jailed? Why is researching this issue prohibitited? Where as we can openly question God, the prophet, concepts such as freedom and democracy? And the third question that I raised in this regard: assuming that this happened, where did it happen? Did the Palestinian people have anything to do with it? Why should the Palestinians pay for it now? Five million displaced Palestinian people is what I'm talking about. Over 60 years of living under terror. Losing the lives of thousands of dear ones. And homes that are destroyed on a daily basis over people's heads. You might argue that the Jews have the right to have a government. We're not against that. But where? At a place where their people were — several people will vote for them, and where they can govern.
He also widely states without holding anything back the holocaust was a fallacy and never happend. As far as a ground war with Iran, that will never happen.
False, look up his TIME magazine interview. He questions more the marketing of the holocaust for the Zionist cause, than it's existence.
We have way way way way too much technology to waste precious american lives. This is what is going to happen. Obama, even though he did put an extension of the departure date from Iraq, the US, regardless, will be leaving Iraq. Once that happens, all hell will break loose. Iraq, will never never never ever be a stabilized country. Democracy will not work in a place where people do not want it. Same with south vietnam. We forced democracy on them and we ended up being attacked by south vietnamese terrorist groups because they didn't want us to be there in the first place. When we leave Iraq, it will be open season.
Either hezbollah, or some other terrorist group, or worse Iran, will take over Iraq and all the so called progress that has been made will be destroyed.
Hezbollah is not a true "terrorist" organization, they are a militant group/resistance force, and more recently have been recognized as a legitimate political party for of Lebanon. Their goals are to expel all foreigners from their land. What they call "defensive jihad". In western eyes they are terrorist because they oppose the IDF and US forces inside their country. At one point US State Dept. removed them from the list of Terrorist organization and then later added back on probably by AIPAC.
They do not support targeting civilians and have condemned Al-Quaeda for 9/11.
Democracy can work in the Area, Before 1953 Iran was democratic and the CIA over through their leader.
Iran will not Invade Iraq, are you kidding me, the US will just gain another reason to strike them. Iraq will never be stable, 3 ethnic groups fighting for control with US troops in the middle, Country is better of splitting into 3 states. No Terrorist group can take over Iraq completely, they will get caught up in their own religious mess.
When Iran takes over Iraq it will continue to destroy the countries that stand in its way IOW, Isreal. Most of the worlds oil control will be in the hands of one of the most sinnical and tyranny crazed men in the world. I know this sounds irrational but it will happen because no one will stand in Adminijabs way.
M.A. has stated his policies, he is anti-zionist not anti-jew so Israel as a country for jews only must not exist anymore, that does not mean "KILL THE JEWS" there is no call for genocide. If so he would stark with the 40000 Jews in his country.
Their will never be peace in the Middle east because the Jews hate Arabs, and the Arabs hate the Jews. Its been this way since biblical times. And you laugh nopeace but its starting to add up. Obama and the world leaders already want a one world currency.
Whoa dude, I know about this NWO stuff too. Why do you think they are getting at our Constitution and particularly the 2nd Amendment. I definitely do not laugh. Just today Dept. of Homeland Security warning against "radical right wing constitutional groups". Basically people who do not like the Federal over-regulation.
I can go on for days with "illuminat/Freemason Zionist" conspiracies but I don't bring that stuff here, although I firmly believe based on current and past events that there "influences" that rule our world.
Im not a bible thumper by any means, but don't discredit it whole heartedly cause some of it makes sense. But anyone that trys to make Adminijab look like a good guy has something wrong with them. That guy should never ever have acess to nuclear weapons.
Wow tushee no peace. I think thats how u spell it. Anyway. I still don't beleive adminijab when he restated his statement ofI'm not saying he is a good guy (no person in a position of power is a good guy), I'm going after our Media's bullshit smearing in order to pull us into a war by spoon feeding us misinformation and fear mongering. Something so small as misinterpreting a quote in farsi to english has led to an outcry by Israel and Fox News here, They use that statement as the primary reason for invading Iran. Humans on both sides could die because of irresponsible reporting or deliberate misinformation. The media needs to stop pushing for a war because Israel is scared to strike.
You have to consider the misguiding media-machine here inside the US. Time will tell and you will see an increase in reporting of crimes. A.M. is being labeled a nutcase but yet has been invited to speak at American Universities. It's our media that makes him a genocidal-tyranical mad man in order to better serve support for the war from the public. Same was said about Hussein. And in the 80's we were in business with him while he was being "tyranical" our Gov. doesn't care about the "tyranical" part if you ask me.
Do your own research and come to your own conclusions. Don't buy US media misinformation. Israel wants complete domination of the region.
ahhaahahaa for sure man. Yah saying the iraq war is an act of God is definitely retarded.lol im just glad an ocean seperates me from all that crap lol.getbigbyjune,
No doubt about that, Islam is a religion in the stone ages. If the people in the Middle East don't realize that they are following antiquated beliefs, they are gonne be riding camels forever while we get our hover cars started in the future hopefully. I am opposed greatly to religion's involvement in politics, especially with Christianity. Not all muslims country have those kind of restrictions. Some have some beautiful women too I might add. They should open their eyes about human/rights and justice. I studied Criminology and different justice systems around the world. Basically with an Islamic rule of law, you break it you're done. Hardly any trial or anything.
When you get people in charge saying "Iraq war is a task from God" it's like slapping God in the face. The NeoCons *******s are abusing our Servicement (respect always) and the other people. You have politicians getting churches to endorse them, and now even some Evangelicals have books such as "Should Christians Support A Cease Fire". As Christians (I'm Catholic) we should always denounce war.
Well A.M. will always be demonized in the media. Since he can not speak English, his speeches and statements will always get mis-construed either accidentally or deliberately.
You can figure it like this if Iran gets a nuke:
Iran= 1 warhead
Israel= 200+ submarine based SCMB's
U.S. = 10,000 land based sub based missiles.
So, they will definitely lose.
Dude.....there is no war yet.....Yup me too.
Does anyone have any possible alteratior motives that could be the motivation for this war?
One source claims that Iran was going to accept any currency for their oil and this is what pissed off bush. Euros, Rubles etc.Dude.....there is no war yet.....
If you're talking a motive for Israel, its obviously self preservation. One nuke set off in Israel could take out 25-50% of their population.
The "dollar monopoly" has been in place since the Bretton Woods agreements in 1944 which established it as the international reserve currency. Honestly, if Iran is going to accept Rubles for their oil, its more of a risk to them than it is to us. I'm no fan of US monetary policy, but it looks better than any other major currency right now, including the Euro and the Yen. The only ones I'd like better than the dollar are Australian Dollars and Swiss Francs, but I'd doubt there's enough of those currencies circulating to deal in the quantities Iran is looking at dealing in.One source claims that Iran was going to accept any currency for their oil and this is what pissed off bush. Euros, Rubles etc.
This removes the dollars monopoly, makes sense.
You know you're a terrorist?
I saw the memo. Apparently, I'm also anti-government and anti-CNN. :usa1:You know you're a terrorist?
well, if they accept any currency, other nations will not have to switch their currencies and this would drastically weaken the dollar. The greater fear is that other nations will follow in their footsteps.The "dollar monopoly" has been in place since the Bretton Woods agreements in 1944 which established it as the international reserve currency. Honestly, if Iran is going to accept Rubles for their oil, its more of a risk to them than it is to us. I'm no fan of US monetary policy, but it looks better than any other major currency right now, including the Euro and the Yen. The only ones I'd like better than the dollar are Australian Dollars and Swiss Francs, but I'd doubt there's enough of those currencies circulating to deal in the quantities Iran is looking at dealing in.
The pound has been strong for a while now.lol oy the pound is good too lol.
Um......the pound sterling was down in value 25% last year. Its up a couple of percent this year, but I wouldn't call it a strong currency by any stretch.The pound has been strong for a while now.
You're putting the caboose before the train. Nations and businesses don't care about devaluing the dollar, they care about maximizing their capital. It is essentially up to the seller to decide in what form they accept their payments. As of right now, there are three currencies that have major worldwide market acceptance: the US dollar, the Euro, and the Japanese Yen (in that order). Out of these three, the dollar is the world's reserve currency and by far the most widely accepted and sought after, hence that is the currency most oil and commodities producers seek first. In order to "dethrone" the dollar, there has to be a more desirable alternative.well, if they accept any currency, other nations will not have to switch their currencies and this would drastically weaken the dollar. The greater fear is that other nations will follow in their footsteps.
I think you undervalue the diplomatic relationships that have set the dollar up as the world reserve and kept pricing mostly in dollars. The devaluation of the dollar you refer to coudl be the result of sellers and buyers using other currencies, even in miniscule amounts. By agreeing to price oil in dollars this essentially forces countries to keep dollar reserves in order to avoid conversion fees to aquire oil. Sellers don't have to refuse dollars, they just have to start accepting other currencies to start the ball rolling on a dollar sell off. Right now the Saudis have a big hand in this. People buy oil in dollars, they deposit those dollars in banks that make the kind of loans that get paid off when **** rolls up hill. In other words they enable our monetary inflation by keeping dollars from rolling back our way. But it's little more than a mutually beneficial gentleman's agreement that keeps this going, and there's a lot more involved in which currency it would be desirable to accept payments in than the mere relative strengths of the various currencies.You're putting the caboose before the train. Nations and businesses don't care about devaluing the dollar, they care about maximizing their capital. It is essentially up to the seller to decide in what form they accept their payments. As of right now, there are three currencies that have major worldwide market acceptance: the US dollar, the Euro, and the Japanese Yen (in that order). Out of these three, the dollar is the world's reserve currency and by far the most widely accepted and sought after, hence that is the currency most oil and commodities producers seek first. In order to "dethrone" the dollar, there has to be a more desirable alternative.
The dollar hasn't devalued in the last 6 months, its actually strengthened. Its not about diplomatic relations, its about which currency the seller feels will maximize their capital. The dollar is the lesser of all evils now. Like I said previously, the dollar will stay dominant until there is something safer/better.I think you undervalue the diplomatic relationships that have set the dollar up as the world reserve and kept pricing mostly in dollars. The devaluation of the dollar you refer to coudl be the result of sellers and buyers using other currencies, even in miniscule amounts. By agreeing to price oil in dollars this essentially forces countries to keep dollar reserves in order to avoid conversion fees to aquire oil. Sellers don't have to refuse dollars, they just have to start accepting other currencies to start the ball rolling on a dollar sell off. Right now the Saudis have a big hand in this. People buy oil in dollars, they deposit those dollars in banks that make the kind of loans that get paid off when **** rolls up hill. In other words they enable our monetary inflation by keeping dollars from rolling back our way. But it's little more than a mutually beneficial gentleman's agreement that keeps this going, and there's a lot more involved in which currency it would be desirable to accept payments in than the mere relative strengths of the various currencies.
Because excess has still be sterilized or gone into currency. The monetary base has gone through the roof. Relatively speaking our currency's current strength isn't on the most solid ground right now. There's a shitload of money that's already been created ready to pour into the system.The dollar hasn't devalued in the last 6 months, its actually strengthened.
And that's correct. I'm just saying I think you're underestimating how tenuous the dollar's position is in that game.Its not about diplomatic relations, its about which currency the seller feels will maximize their capital. The dollar is the lesser of all evils now. Like I said previously, the dollar will stay dominant until there is something safer/better.
I agree. However, there are two sides to the currency strength supply and demand equation. First is the one you mentioned, the supply, which has in fact grown at unprecedented levels. The other side of the coin is the safe haven play. When there is a global financial meltdown, worldwide, the big money is looking for the safest possible place to put their money. The dollar, right or wrong was seen as the safest place over the last six months, which increased demand significantly and thus the value of the dollar went up.Because excess has still be sterilized or gone into currency. The monetary base has gone through the roof. Relatively speaking our currency's current strength isn't on the most solid ground right now. There's a shitload of money that's already been created ready to pour into the system.
I think we're completely on the same page on this. I actually have been looking to buy some Jan 2011 puts today on a 20 year treasury bond fund and finally pulled the trigger. I'm expecting treasuries to take a big hit and the dollar to follow suit over the next couple of years.And that's correct. I'm just saying I think you're underestimating how tenuous the dollar's position is in that game.
Something from Asia. Technically the real safe haven is the currency that's the least manipulated and has the most backing, but in actuality my guess is people will jump to currencies that can be further inflated on top of a productive workforce for a time as the dollar finally pops and does fart circles around the money market. Asia, with oil rich county currencies as a second option. A far third, and if this happens we're really screwed, is the Amero; everyone meets and devises a world wide currency to universally screw everyone with at the same rate. It's a far third in my opinion because people are still too nationalistic to accept it, and they'd have to sprinkle some gold dust on it a la BrettonWoods II, but that would mean having to take a substantial portion of our medicine first which no central bank wants to do.CDB, what do you think will take the place of the dollar near term and long term?
Interesting theory. I could definitely see much of this playing out over the next 10-15 years. I think China is positioning the Yuan to be the currency of choice in the future.Something from Asia. Technically the real safe haven is the currency that's the least manipulated and has the most backing, but in actuality my guess is people will jump to currencies that can be further inflated on top of a productive workforce for a time as the dollar finally pops and does fart circles around the money market. Asia, with oil rich county currencies as a second option. A far third, and if this happens we're really screwed, is the Amero; everyone meets and devises a world wide currency to universally screw everyone with at the same rate. It's a far third in my opinion because people are still too nationalistic to accept it, and they'd have to sprinkle some gold dust on it a la BrettonWoods II, but that would mean having to take a substantial portion of our medicine first which no central bank wants to do.
So, there will be a lot of noise about the dollar being king but not much action, foreign reserves will diversify to hold fewer and fewer greens and probably more yen and yuan and hard commodities especially. Oil, gold, etc. Maybe a few wars will be fought to make sure US production doesn't fall through the floor and our citizens have something fun to do with their time while our economy implodes and reorganizes itself from the rubble. And then, if we're lucky, something of a manufacturing base will have been rebuilt under our noses while we were off bombing some marginally significant country, so we can make a nice smooth transition from war time production to making rubber dog **** or something, a la the shift that happened in 45-46 after WWII. The only reason we didn't collapse then is because a significant portion of the workforce got killed - a creative way of dealing with unemployment - and our manufacturing ability was rebuilt despite, not because of, the war and all the government 'help'. We can only hope this time that a similar recovery is under way and waiting to take off once the government spending ends.
Where can I read more, which book, Forgotten Man? I've avoided it. I love Greedy Hand but Forgotten Man seemed a rehash of stuff I've already read from Higgs and Rothbard on the policies of Hoover/FDR, and the misleading nature of WWII GDP stats. I honestly don't get the idea of over regulation freeing up capital.Interesting theory. I could definitely see much of this playing out over the next 10-15 years. I think China is positioning the Yuan to be the currency of choice in the future.
I disagree in your WWII/Great Depression explanation. I agree with Amity Schlaes' explanation that attributed the post WWII boom to the 1930s era over-regulation of private enterprise freeing up underutilized private capital.
True. I'm not saying it was intentionally the way they figured to deal with unemployment. It was just interesting in a sarcastic way that unemployment hovered around 18% for years as FDR was supposedly saving us from the Great Depression, then we commit fully one fifth of our workforce to the army, unemployment goes down, and FDR gets praise. More a comment on ow easily fooled most people are.As for your unemployment theory from WWII, it seems to me that if you wanted to boost an economy through death, you'd kill off your old people, not the people with the greatest future economic output.
Yeah, the Forgotten Man. I'll see if my library has Greedy Hand. I haven't read Rothbard and Higgs, but I'm open to all recommendations you have on good books to check out.Where can I read more, which book, Forgotten Man? I've avoided it. I love Greedy Hand but Forgotten Man seemed a rehash of stuff I've already read from Higgs and Rothbard on the policies of Hoover/FDR, and the misleading nature of WWII GDP stats. I honestly don't get the idea of over regulation freeing up capital.
I agree, FDR was more of a PR campaign than any actual results.True. I'm not saying it was intentionally the way they figured to deal with unemployment. It was just interesting in a sarcastic way that unemployment hovered around 18% for years as FDR was supposedly saving us from the Great Depression, then we commit fully one fifth of our workforce to the army, unemployment goes down, and FDR gets praise. More a comment on ow easily fooled most people are.
If this is true, I guess we can expect a major war in the next 5-20 years. Have you read any books that talk about the second part of what you said....monetary policy and war.....I'm curious about the whole concept.But make no mistake, economic woes and war are tied together like **** and stink. In the past it was about conquest. Kings would party until resources started to dry up, conquer some more land, get some ore gold and title and what not, and keep the party going. In our day and age its monetary policy first, military second. The spending is necessary to keep the money flowing and the inevitable collapse just out of sight. So, when all else fails, direct capital and production efforts into war making.
Rothbard: America's Great DepressionYeah, the Forgotten Man. I'll see if my library has Greedy Hand. I haven't read Rothbard and Higgs, but I'm open to all recommendations you have on good books to check out.
I see, she's saying the relaxation of the war time restrictions finally allowed capital to flow. I agree.I miswrote the part apart over-regulation freeing up capital. When business was essentially deregulated between 1938 until post WWII (deregulated in the sense that some of the iron fist price control / wage control policies of 1930s were abandoned) there was a flood of capital that was previously tied up in Muni bonds and other tax avoidance instruments came back into business.
A good one too. Look how many people still believe he and the war 'got us out of the depression'. I mean, the ****ing thing lasted ten years and people think he 'helped' the situation. Still amazes me to this day.I agree, FDR was more of a PR campaign than any actual results.
The Higgs books go into a bit, as does Rothbard in Wall Street, Banks, and American Foreign Policy. Basically it's monetary imperialism, or the defecit without tears. You get a dominant currency, inflate it, send it abroad, and other nations pyramid their currency and credit on top of it. In this way you get to inflate a hell of a lot without a strain on home reserves; no gold or dollars flowing out in other words because liabilities are never returned.If this is true, I guess we can expect a major war in the next 5-20 years. Have you read any books that talk about the second part of what you said....monetary policy and war.....I'm curious about the whole concept.
Not even just war time restrictions. Many corporations and rich people put obscene amounts of capital in Municipal Bonds and other tax safe havens in the 1930s due to over-regulation and obscenely high taxes. This had the effect of holding down capital growth even before the War. FDR began loosing up these regulation when war stated and he actually had a vested interest in production in supplying his allies in Europe. He never had any real incentive to promote economic recovery prior to that, he just had the incentive to promote the idea that economic recovery was happening.I see, she's saying the relaxation of the war time restrictions finally allowed capital to flow. I agree.
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