Icon 1 + Oral 1-DHEA

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I wanted to make a new account and retire this one at 69 posts (per requests), but the show must go on LOL

Currently about to suit up for an Icon 1 run. I have 20ish Super Mandro tabs left over from a previous run I’d like to use in conjunction.

Icon 1 is 112mg TD (per 5 pumps), the Super Mandro tabs are 110mg.

Thinking 2 pumps Icon 1, 1 tab Super Mandro first 20 days then up to the 5 pumps/day Icon 1 to finish out. Any thoughts?
 
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Sounds interesting. I’m in to follow. Are you using anything else during the run?
 
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Sounds good to me. Both great products. Might want to throw in some sort of base if funds permit.
 
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Sounds good to me. Both great products. Might want to throw in some sort of base if funds permit.
I was thinking some Dermacrine, just to aid. Still curious how the two will work together.
 
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my thoughts would be to run hard and heavy up front until the lethargy sets up. then when you run low on orals you will automatically be pulling back the dose while keeping the saturation high enough with 5 pumps yet relieving some of the lethargy that 1 andro is so well known for.
 
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2 pumps + 1 cap will be quite low. It equals to about 200 mg of oral only.
 
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are you purposefully running it that low? the studied dose is a bit higher. to be clear I myself have never ran 1 andro in a TD so I am honestly interested in the answer.
 
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are you purposefully running it that low? the studied dose is a bit higher. to be clear I myself have never ran 1 andro in a TD so I am honestly interested in the answer.
1 anecdote: I have ran 1-Andro TD at 150 mg in the past (in a stack). I still have a decent stash of it and will run more next time (in a stack).
 
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I might have some primagen laying around. I should check. It was 1 andro and epi combined i think.
 

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2 pumps + 1 cap will be quite low. It equals to about 200 mg of oral only.
What exactly would be the correlation from oral to TD? 5 pumps Icon 1 most people report to be very effective so I was assuming 5 pumps (112mg TD) = ~330mg orally
 
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What exactly would be the correlation from oral to TD? 5 pumps Icon 1 most people report to be very effective so I was assuming 5 pumps (112mg TD) = ~330mg orally
Well, it's been said that TD Andros are about twice as effective, as oral. A few things go in to it, like the effectiveness of the carrier in the TD (Icon One should be of high quality) and individual response. Don't think I've seen any hard evidence about the TD vs Oral, but that's what seems to be the consensus amongst us bros.

For what it's worth, 150 mg TD 4-Andro (Alpha Gainz) has me feeling better, than 300 mg of oral (Brawn).
 
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What exactly would be the correlation from oral to TD? 5 pumps Icon 1 most people report to be very effective so I was assuming 5 pumps (112mg TD) = ~330mg orally
how many bottles of icon 1 do you have?
 
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What exactly would be the correlation from oral to TD? 5 pumps Icon 1 most people report to be very effective so I was assuming 5 pumps (112mg TD) = ~330mg orally
I'll add that I too have seen people report good results with 5 pumps of Icon One, which is slightly surprising to me, considering the 112 mg of 1-Andro with that dose. But I'm not going to argue against anyones personal experiences. I just might need more, than some? 🤷‍♂️ (I have not tried Icon One)
 
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If it was me I would start the Icon One at the full five pumps right away. However long the cycle I would add the oral for the last 21 days as everything starts to slow down towards the end. Option two would be to take 2 of them preworkout on your weakest body part days.
 
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I'll add that I too have seen people report good results with 5 pumps of Icon One, which is slightly surprising to me, considering the 112 mg of 1-Andro with that dose. But I'm not going to argue against anyones personal experiences. I just might need more, than some? 🤷‍♂️ (I have not tried Icon One)
count me among the many who have had good results from icon 1...unfortunately iconic formulations does not carry it any longer-there were a lot of nice reviews by verified buyers on the iconic formulations website.
 
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count me among the many who have had good results from icon 1...unfortunately iconic formulations does not carry it any longer-there were a lot of nice reviews by verified buyers on the iconic formulations website.
Yep, losing I1 and A4 from the IF catalog is a real shame. Both still available at Strong Supplement Shop though. Wink wink @Cheeky Kunt I'd get another bottle of I1, if you only have one.
 
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Yep, losing I1 and A4 from the IF catalog is a real shame. Both still available at Strong Supplement Store though. Wink wink @Cheeky Kunt I'd get another bottle of I1, if you only have one.
@delsolrob is it true that once current supply of icon one/alpha four runs out it is gone for good?
 
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@delsolrob is it true that once current supply of icon one/alpha four runs out it is gone for good?
this is true - we lost the license to produce products containing 1-dhea and 4-dhea
 
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personally, I would get another bottle of Icon One to allow for a full 8 week run. Then add some of the oral to the run alongside if you want to add some extra oomf for the last few weeks.
 
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personally, I would get another bottle of Icon One to allow for a full 8 week run. Then add some of the oral to the run alongside if you want to add some extra oomf for the last few weeks.
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If it was me I would start the Icon One at the full five pumps right away. However long the cycle I would add the oral for the last 21 days as everything starts to slow down towards the end. Option two would be to take 2 of them preworkout on your weakest body part days.
That is what i would do also and at a wet compound such as a high dose of 4-andro if the money is right
 

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