As the title!
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what do you recommend?
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what do you recommend?
^ Would 2nd this; And that fruit punch stim free is super tasty!Caffein free focus xt for focus/intensity during your workout and agmatine or nitrates for pump.
exact, the only one who understood me!I believe he wants a stimulated preworkout but without caffeine.
Caffeine is in most (if not all) stimulated pres because it is synergistic with or amplifies the effects of other stims.
High Volume know him, it is my all-time favorite!To echo a few above definitely give PEScience High Volume a try if non-stim is what you're after.
http://store.lockoutforums.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=2004974
You'll get all the pump and many of the endurance benefits a stimmed pre offer, without the caffeine.
Hefty doses of Agmatine sulphate, Arginine Nitrate, L-Citrulline, HydroMAX, and more.
Like my suggestion? HahaHigh Volume know him, it is my all-time favorite!
Still I am seeking a stim product, but without caffeine.
Now I could do, as suggested by you, purchase a product NOT stim, and after I add a stimulant single (no caffeine).
I would try MaxReps No3, which I can combine stimulating?
yesLike my suggestion? Haha
I thought ALCAR, but I take TR1UMPH! Carnitine Tartrate ...I don't know of any stimulant designer products (blends of multiple ingredients) without caffeine. You're probably going to have to add your choice of stim(s) to a completely non-stim product. MaxReps would be great. Conqu3r Unleashed Stim-Free is currently 50% off at Olympus Lab's website as part of the updated Conqu3r Unleashed sale. With that you'll get pumps, ergogenic aids and focus with the ALCAR and Alpha GPC.
As for the stim(s), you could try DMHA (per Jiigzz's suggestion), DMAA, and/or maybe Theobromine.
Chaos and Pain 2-Aminoisohepthane ?Buy a non stim like MaxReps, then add some bulk 2-aminoisoheptane or something of the like. Chaos and Pain sell a bulk version, however I have no idea what stimulant it actually contains (2-aminoisoheptane is a vague term).
This is still a stimulant I believe.Chaos and Pain 2-Aminoisohepthane ?
He's looking for a stunned product but not caffeine.This is still a stimulant I believe.
You will not be able to use a non stim product and feel like it contains stimulants. The closest you'll get is by using a non stim and nootropics
All Great choice but Modern Pre does have Caffeine, although Max Reps does not...I will go with any non stim produt like NooPump, Modern Pre, Hemavol, High Volume or PowerMax XT. Although PowerMax XT may be branded as a creatine product, it is an ergogenic aid that, when taken pre workout, will aid in performance and recovery. Also, the glycerol will aid in a pump. Amento is a good ingredient to help with performance which is why I take it pre workout versus post.
In addition to any of the above, I will use several nootropics to help with my focus. This is what I have been doing, most days, recently:
PowerMax XT
1-2 grams of l-tyrosine
1-2 grams of Alcar
2-3 grams of LCLT
300-600 mg Alpha GPC
100-200 mcg Hup A
I wanted to try something different, caffeine after a while 'I do not feel anymore.He's looking for a stunned product but not caffeine.
OP I honestly don't know of anything stunned without caffeine as it's the most basic, studied, proven, and cheapest of them all.
Thinking you're gonna have to make your own.
But why no caffeine?
almost any stim is going to have that happen... its simply a tolerance thing. theres really no reason to avoid caff tho as it has other benefits besides the "feel" even when you cant feel it any longer. Just pick any stimmed pre that you enjoy that has more than just caffiene (look into focus xt for nootropics and focus related aspects, conq3r unleashed for a comprehensive, mesomorph or in a few weeks sparta nutrition Kraken from some DMAA ones taht will blow you away)I wanted to try something different, caffeine after a while 'I do not feel anymore.
If this is the case try blends of stimulants if possible like 1,3-Dim even AMP Cit at larger doses, Yohimbine HCL and or EphedrineI wanted to try something different, caffeine after a while 'I do not feel anymore.
Ephedrine with nothing else!damn google translator !!!
I try the product with stimulating ingredients !!!
I try stimulating product !!!!!!!
However, caffeine free !!!!
Thanks, I meant Max Reps!All Great choice but Modern Pre does have Caffeine, although Max Reps does not...
I make my own.As the title!
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what do you recommend?
Buying bulk is usually the way to go. Usually is cheaper too!I make my own.
3G Betaine, 6g Cit Mal, 2.5g MCC, and 1 scoop stim free focus XT for my late night workouts.
If you don't want to buy bulks, Hemavol and VasKular are great non stim options. Performax makes one as well but I'm escaping the name at the moment...