i dont want my GF to notice when i start PCT

[ryaroberts]

ran test 12 weeks, with superdrol 4 weeks and phera 4 weeks , with .5mg adex EOD, with 250 iu HCG 2x week from week 3 and on, cycle support on cycle with orals.

pct is coming up in the next few weeks and i dont want my gf to notice when i see her in about 3 more weeks. i know this is gonna be DIFFICULT but i wanna do the best i can. pct includes tamoxifen, 30/20/20/10/10 (from experience in the past i know when i try 40mg it crushes my estrogen leaving it harder to recover), post cycle support for eight weeks, then 6-bromo weeks 5-8 tapered down.

my question is should i throw in clomid along side my tamoxifen to speed up recovery? i was thinking a low dose 50mg 4 weeks along side tamoxifen.

 

[lennoxchi]

ran test 12 weeks, with superdrol 4 weeks and phera 4 weeks , with .5mg adex EOD, with 250 iu HCG 2x week from week 3 and on, cycle support on cycle with orals.

pct is coming up in the next few weeks and i dont want my gf to notice when i see her in about 3 more weeks. i know this is gonna be DIFFICULT but i wanna do the best i can. pct includes tamoxifen, 30/20/20/10/10 (from experience in the past i know when i try 40mg it crushes my estrogen leaving it harder to recover), post cycle support for eight weeks, then 6-bromo weeks 5-8 tapered down.

my question is should i throw in clomid along side my tamoxifen to speed up recovery? i was thinking a low dose 50mg 4 weeks along side tamoxifen.

why not just replace nolva with clomid? maybe have some ED meds on hand just in case.

 

[ryaroberts]

when combating gyno, i feel nolva is superior. i have a pre-existing lump from puberty and i wanna prevent any aggregation to it as much as possible. my body is very estrogen sensitive.

what is the acronym of "ED meds"? are you referring to lev, cil and viagra? if so i do not have access to those.

 

[Ju1cedUp]

run them together. Do the nolva like you said then do clomid 150 for the first 3 days, 100 until you feel the boys back, then 50 til the end of PCT

 

[nosnmiveins]

when combating gyno, i feel nolva is superior. i have a pre-existing lump from puberty and i wanna prevent any aggregation to it as much as possible. my body is very estrogen sensitive.

what is the acronym of "ED meds"? are you referring to lev, cil and viagra? if so i do not have access to those.

run the clomid at 50mg for 4 weeks, but lower the nolva dose to 10mg for the 4 weeks....this should be plenty to hold off gyno and get the recovery going.

and im sure he meant viagra, cialis, levitra.....boner pills!

 

[Wudog]

your worried about her noticing b/c of your pct....don't you think she will notice the size increase from a test cycle?

 

[SeanyK]

definitely, agreed... run the clomiphene/tamox together. with clomid i usually just do 150, 100, and 50 throughout the rest after those first 2 days. even without the tamox this would typically be enough for me depending on the cycle.

ed meds such as pde5 inhibitors will only help you, not to mention they can be quite fun... nothing like rammin your girl for 4 hours straight. 4 hours of sex and you could skip the gym that day ahh. horny goat weed helps me out a bit too. resveratrol such as in the post cycle sup. will also help.

to be honest with you, the only thing i would notice with that pct is a lessened desire to have sex, not any physical inability to perform. you know your body better than any of us so dosing is all up to you

 

[lennoxchi]

yes i was refering to cialas, viagra and such. and if you have access to SERM's then you have access to ED stuff too, you just don't know you do.

 

[ryaroberts]

yes i was refering to cialas, viagra and such. and if you have access to SERM's then you have access to ED stuff too, you just don't know you do.

i have an rx for tamoxifen. the clomid i have to get through another source.

 

[Wudog]

if you take that much clomid you will have severe emotional swings....cry for basically no reason and such.....

 

[Ju1cedUp]

if you take that much clomid you will have severe emotional swings....cry for basically no reason and such.....

eh not everyone.. i didn't notice anything when i took it, just bigger balls.

 

[lennoxchi]

eh not everyone.. i didn't notice anything when i took it, just bigger balls.

word! although i caught myself watching the lifetime channel once while on clomid

 

[Harry Manback]

eh not everyone.. i didn't notice anything when i took it, just bigger balls.

I will second this.

 

[Ju1cedUp]

word! although i caught myself watching the lifetime channel once while on clomid

ouch, thats rough.

 

[n8te]

if you take that much clomid you will have severe emotional swings....cry for basically no reason and such.....

I think thaw differs from person to person, I get no such sides

 

[Jasen]

wait????????? why do u have a RX for nolva?

 

[ryaroberts]

wait????????? why do u have a RX for nolva?

b/c i asked my doc for it. i told him i was getting it without a prescription and i was going to take it none the less, so i asked if he could. i told him it was for my gyno. he wont put me on anything else breast cancer related. he denied me clomid and arimidex. but anyway, thats a different story.

 

[nosnmiveins]

b/c i asked my doc for it. i told him i was getting it without a prescription and i was going to take it none the less, so i asked if he could. i told him it was for my gyno. he wont put me on anything else breast cancer related. he denied me clomid and arimidex. but anyway, thats a different story.

lucky f ucker

 

[Jasen]

hmmm chappelle show skit " i did not knwo i could do that"

 

[phaeton66]

If it were me, I'd take toremifene and cialis. Toremifene helps me recover faster than anything else (except from tren, but you didn't take tren). They're easy to find from research chemicals places. Cialis gives you off the hook boners.
I've had mixed experience with clomid. First time I took it was horrible like others mentioned. Last time I took it, with IGF-1 after a tren cycle, it was fine at 50mg/day. Easiest PCT ever.
I'd also time my PCT to start at least a week or two before the young lady in question shows up. That first week usually sucks. Presumably you're off by now and waiting for the ester to clear, so it's cialis for you.

 

[KarlaG]

girls always notice these things

 

[lennoxchi]

girls always notice these things

you're right......observant little muffins

 

[nosnmiveins]

girls always notice these things

you're right......observant little muffins

my gf knows i use. but she can also tell if im on or off cycle when playing with my nuts. :shhh:

 

[lennoxchi]

my gf knows i use. but she can also tell if im on or off cycle when playing with my nuts. :shhh:

on= smuggling raisins
off= full regular size like golf balls

 

[Jasen]

u guys! LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!! ^

 

[EasyEJL]

another thought is to continue the HCG, or even raise the dose to 500iu 2x a week to help

 

[ryaroberts]

another thought is to continue the HCG, or even raise the dose to 500iu 2x a week to help

wont your body get dependent on it after a while just like test?

 

[EasyEJL]

sort of, but i was only thinking of it to help speed normal test production

 

[ryaroberts]

ive never heard of running it straight through the cycle and all the way through pct. ive always been told to run it during and stop prior to pct.

 

[celc5]

ive never heard of running it straight through the cycle and all the way through pct. ive always been told to run it during and stop prior to pct.

Your point of view is most accepted... however, Easy was simply responding to your specific predicament in your original post.