I just think it's humorous that someone from a faith that is literally quite hostile towards Christianity writes about the history and life of Jesus and people don't think that he might have had some sort of agenda. And no, I am not as educated as him but it would be interesting to see both arguments
Maybe foreigners shouldn't write scholarly articles about Shakespeare by your "logic"
well despite what you might think about me piston I'm not a perfect human being.
what does this have to do with being a foreigner? It has everything to do with a religion that mostly hates Jesus? Piston I've tried to give you the benefit of the doubt but ive come to the conclusion that you cannot respectfully discuss anything with anyone on this forum. Therefore you can say whatever you'd like but until you humble yourself and realize you dont hold the answers to the mysteries of the world I will no longer give you the attention you so desperately seek.
I will refrain from using analogy to make points to you.
Not all Muslims are hostile towards Christians just as not all Christians are hostile towards Muslims. Quite a few Muslims tolerate Christianity quite well and vice versea. Don't let the actions of a few dictate thoughts on how a majority acts.
That's the trend that is happening over in the middle east...Islam is becoming more and more radical. Are Sunni Muslims generally tolerant of Christians...yes. But they are vastly becoming the minority as radicals move in to usher in shia law. Hundreds of thousands of Christians are being beheaded and tortured in the middle east....I think it's safe to say that a majority of Muslim people have either a disdain for the name Jesus or a hate for the name Jesus.
Ok, what's that have to do with the author of the book? He is discredited because other Muslims do these things?
Welcome Jim, sorry we've got a bit off track I was just explaining that a large majority of radical Muslims generally hate what Jesus stands for. Evident by radical persecution and executions.
So, are you purposefully avoiding addressing that topic then? Or was it accidental sidetracking?
I will address the prophecies when I get to my laptop. Since I am on my phone I will keep this brief. Islam doesn't hate Jesus. In actuality, if you read the qu'ran it recognizes Jesus as a "prophet" and religious leader. However , it just recognizes Muhammed as the final one.
so they just go around defaming churches and beheading Christians for no reason?
Three of those are still in process. He has drawn all Jews back to Israel when it finally became a nation state in 1948. The other three are end time prophecies that haven't occurred yet.
Why would he be bias? What is the vested interest he would have or what is it he is looking to gain? The book details the historical accounts and impact Jesus had at the time he existed. Whats his motive here?
Your cognitive dissonance is causing you to selectively read. I intentionally said in no way shape or form is this book attempting to say Jesus did not exist. There are very few scholars that lead towards the chirst myth. The majority acknowledge his existance.
Exactly
Making sweeping generalizations doesnt really help the discussion. Especially since when it comes to Christian vs muslims the Christians arent really the innocent good guys here
And do you have evidence that the author is radical?
Not quite. The majority of the discuss was an advocation of human rights for homosexuals. Christians are free to hate them all they want. The problem arises when that hated causes the denial of rights. If it is true that muslums hate Jesus then they are free to do so but if the hatred spills over into the law around worship being changed then I would speak up for Christians just like how I speak up for homosexuals
Christians really aren't free to hate anyone, If they do they might want to further examine their faith.
You are making a very broad generalization about Muslims. You would be offended or quick to jump on someone if they called all Christians murderers who bomb abortion clinics. Those people are radicals, almost every religion has them.
I didn't say existence. I said a fake....meaning that Jesus claiming to be God in flesh not being true from his view point.
Out of everything I asked, said and pointed out you choose this as your response? This comment is conpletely irrelevant to the discussion unless the discussion is about how unfair it is Christians arent allowed to hate and others are.
The author doesnt say that either. I said there isnt any evidence to support that and also said it is understandably so. Meaning even if it was true there wouldnt be evidence. So essential it is something that can not be proven or disproven. That is what I said, not the author.
Again I don't need zealot to validate Jesus life I have the Bible and many people have proved his life much earlier than him.
Zealot - a person who is fanatical and uncompromising in pursuit of their religious, political, or other ideals.
Since you have refused to answer any question, respond to any evidence presented or acknowledge the inaccuracy of your assumptions, I think its safe to say you were never really "participating" in the discussion.
I'm not sure what this response has to do with my comment?
Oh I see, it is all contingent upon his return, which according to the NT he said would happen during the lifetime of his followers
My goal in this thread was not to provoke or frustrate anyone but I feel like that isn't the goal of everyone and it tires me out. I also don't want to give into the provocateering and say something unloving or disrespectful.
And yet many do.
Is piston Honda still trolling?
Other than ^^^ this guy ^^^, anyone still "for Phil?"
Bump for ^^^^^^^^. Damn I miss him (and his avatar). Eerie quote too, in light of current events.
Feels like I'm missing something?
He passed away recently.
snagency?!!
