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How do you guys remove water retention from estrogen?
Look into hCG and LH suppression.No Hcg for pct ? this is the first i have ever heard of this.
You have anything i could read to back up your claims? i am interested
Right i see where i have gone wrong.Aromaisin at 12.5mg.
Also, HCG will prolong your recovery during PCT, because your body will not start producing LH until the HCG is gone from your system. Use HCG on cycle to stop testicular atrophy, and then stop it before PCT.
Yes.Right i see where i have gone wrong.
Is it possible to start using HCG while on cycle towards the end of your cycle to bring up already atrophied testies, stopping the HCG once the cycle ends then start PCT with Nolva/Clomid
that sound better?
Matt,Remove estrogen from cycle you say...
Well do not run testosterone then.. Run trenbolone and call it good.
You remove the estrogen with letrozole but it will also reap some unhealthy sides.
You could keep the estrogen sides in check with OTC products like Erase Pro and AndroHard
-Matt
Matt, correct me if I'm wrong.Matt,
Can you explain how AH would help? I am on TRT right now, using erase to help with E2, and would love to use hard instead. If I'm on TRT and shut down, can one stay on AH semi- permanent?
It will act as a aromatase inhibitor and can occupy estrogen receptors.It will also protect or lessen gyno problems -- http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S00223476868059603 softgel a day would last you 2 months --- that could be plenty for your TRT regimen-MattMatt,Can you explain how AH would help? I am on TRT right now, using erase to help with E2, and would love to use hard instead. If I'm on TRT and shut down, can one stay on AH semi- permanent?
Matt- I'm interested as well. The link doesn't seem to be working.It will act as a aromatase inhibitor and can occupy estrogen receptors.It will also protect or lessen gyno problems -- http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S00223476868059603 softgel a day would last you 2 months --- that could be plenty for your TRT regimen-Matt
Remove estrogen from cycle you say...
Well do not run testosterone then.. Run trenbolone and call it good.
You remove the estrogen with letrozole but it will also reap some unhealthy sides.
You could keep the estrogen sides in check with OTC products like Erase Pro and AndroHard
-Matt
half serving of AndroHard would 600 mg of hormone in blood.Matt - how many AH a day for use with TRT? Would there still be need for arimidex? I'm interested in AH but curios of what benefits I would see using it instead of the one arimidex weekly I'm taking now. Thx
I would DEFINITELY agree....I like suicide AI's better than non steroidals-MattI would use Aromasin over Adex for many reasons. No effect on HDL, lowers SHBG and no rebound.
What would be the point in that? Why not just extend the run of either of them since they're both suicidal AIs?I love aromasin, considering an aromasin into an erase run one of these days
Well was thinking starting with aromasin and switching to erase since it would ease my mind of being less harsh per say. Or do I have that wrong? I would not want to stay on aromasin for a long period of time. Especially if I am not running test at the timeWhat would be the point in that? Why not just extend the run of either of them since they're both suicidal AIs?
I would like to add that many assume that water retention is estrogen bloat. Water intake, sodium intake and carbohydrates will make a huge difference.
There was a time where I had been experiencing what some would consider estrogen related water retention. I went and got my estradiol tested and it turned up 5 on a 7.6-42.6 range from the use of and AI. Obviously estrogen was not the issue.
Estrogen is not always the culprit.
I'm not following your train of thought here. They're both suicidal AIs and I don't see why you think switching to Erase instead of exemestane is a safer alternative or a better idea while not on test.Well was thinking starting with aromasin and switching to erase since it would ease my mind of being less harsh per say. Or do I have that wrong? I would not want to stay on aromasin for a long period of time. Especially if I am not running test at the time
How is exemestane safer then erase? Because it can slightly elevate test levels?I'm not following your train of thought here. They're both suicidal AIs and I don't see why you think switching to Erase instead of exemestane is a safer alternative or a better idea while not on test.
They both elevate test.How is exemestane safer then erase? Because it can slightly elevate test levels?
I'm so confused lol.They both elevate test.
They both elevate test and lower estrogen. The main difference is going to be that Erase is OTC and Exemstane is Rx.I'm so confused lol.
If you have a minute could you explain when it would be better to use exem vs erase, or any pros cons... I feel so lost lol
Does that mean anything other then name? Is one safer or better or any difference at all?They both elevate test and lower estrogen. The main difference is going to be that Erase is OTC and Exemstane is Rx.
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