FitnessLuke
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How many mgs do you need to take to combat lethargy sides and such if I wanted to run with msten.
^^this. 200mg worked great while on sdmz2Good question, probably varies for guys
I wouldn't go less than 200
Didn't quite cut the cake for SD tho eh?^^this. 200mg worked great while on sdmz2
Nope. 100mg of trest didn't even handle it all the way.Didn't quite cut the cake for SD tho eh?
It is supposed to have better absorption than regular 4 dhea but I wouldn't trust that. You can start at 2 tabs a day and work your way up.Which brand of 4-AD are you using? Im going to be running AMS RDE Chrome 4-AD and have a similar question and cant seem to get a general concencus. Its to run alongside Tren if that helps
Msten would stack good with the diabolixI was planning on running rde chrome...2-3 caps a day for 6- 8 weeks as a base...so 400mg-600mg 4-dhea
Then im either guna run some diabolix (bc I picked up 2 bottles right before the ban for 20 bucks each) or run msten or dmz
I wanna clean bulk so leaning towards msten over diabolix
Believe it's 40Luke, I believe the 4ad rde tabs contain 20 (or 40?) mg 4-dhea per tab
Okay I just pulled it up and saw that it said it was a blend of 200mgLuke, I believe the 4ad rde tabs contain 20 (or 40?) mg 4-dhea per tab
Trest is my favorite base hands down. Nothing makes you feel better. OL dermatrest kept me going on sd and tren where 300mg of 4 andro wouldn't touch the lethargy I had. Have some good cycle support like armicare pro and some tudca for this cycle you are proposingI would definitely get more ai than the 30 aromasin pills with trest. Seems like the gains would be better with trest. It would cost the same too...I just know it lacks dht, so maybe trest wouldnt be the best for a test base?
Trest+msten+diabolix=fun or dose it equal lethargic hell? Haha
IronMag Labs 4-Andro Rx is 50 mg per cap so you would only need to start at 4 per day.I just cant afford 200mg of 4 dhea, bc that would be 10 pills a day...which is like 4 bottles haha. Sounds like trest is a better bang for your buck.
So even without the dht that trest lacks it still helps with energy? ? Thats awesome. Think im going that route bc it would still be the same price as blackstone labs 4dheaTrest is my favorite base hands down. Nothing makes you feel better. OL dermatrest kept me going on sd and tren where 300mg of 4 andro wouldn't touch the lethargy I had. Have some good cycle support like armicare pro and some tudca for this cycle you are proposing
Yes, trest helps with energy level and especially works great for libido. Since I first ran trest I find it hard to run a cycle without itSo even without the dht that trest lacks it still helps with energy? ? Thats awesome. Think im going that route bc it would still be the same price as blackstone labs 4dhea
I found injectable trest and also ran into desoxy-t
Anyone know abouy desoxy-t?
How was your pct recovery from it? I know it was studied to be used as a male b.c because it strongly shuts you down, so does that make pct is hard to get test levels back up?Yes, trest helps with energy level and especially works great for libido. Since I first ran trest I find it hard to run a cycle without it
I only have experience with dermatrest but found it extremely easy to recover fromHow was your pct recovery from it? I know it was studied to be used as a male b.c because it strongly shuts you down, so does that make pct is hard to get test levels back up?
Awesome...I mean even if I go with an injectable form of trest it should be the same resultsI only have experience with dermatrest but found it extremely easy to recover from
IM trest is completely different from derma/oral trest from what I have heard. I cannot really give you any advice on IM trest because I haven't ever used it. Maybe someone else can tell you more about itAwesome...I mean even if I go with an injectable form of trest it should be the same results
Well wait what have you heard about IM trest. That it is better or worse than oral?IM trest is completely different from derma/oral trest from what I have heard. I cannot really give you any advice on IM trest because I haven't ever used it. Maybe someone else can tell you more about it
Not affiliated with AMS in any way...Okay I just pulled it up and saw that it said it was a blend of 200mg
So yall are saying its only 40mg 4-dhea
That sounds kinda crappy, because 20 mg doesn't even mean 20 mg of testosterone. That's just 20mg and then it still has to get converted to testosterone. I could be wromg, but I thought I heard only 15% gets converted to testosterone. Meaning 3 pills a day would only yield 9 mg of actual testosterone. Netting 63mg of testosterone a week. Sounds like that would barely cover the lethargic sides an oral would would bring.
Correct me if I am wrong. This is all my own bro science.
Yes IM trest is much stronger. Sub q is not an option, IM onlyWell wait what have you heard about IM trest. That it is better or worse than oral?
I would think better since injections usually mean less harshness? Also anyone know if you can inject it sub q? I have a bunch of insulin needles and it would be way cheaper than IM needles.
sub q worked fine for me....sub q test as well worked fine....i am curious why you say it WONT work?Yes IM trest is much stronger. Sub q is not an option, IM only