High histamine + seasonal allaergies + undermethylator

[coolhammer]

Seasonal allergies mean high histamine, so means undermethylated, Is this correct???
If correct then my understanding is FOLIC or FOLINIC is bad for undermethylators. TRue or False?? Then what supplements are recommended for high histamine???
Does one continue to avoid these two nutrients when one is in a lower histamine state when not suffering from seasonal allergies?

 

[LeanGuy]

Seasonal allergies mean high histamine, so means undermethylated, Is this correct???
If correct then my understanding is FOLIC or FOLINIC is bad for undermethylators. TRue or False?? Then what supplements are recommended for high histamine???
Does one continue to avoid these two nutrients when one is in a lower histamine state when not suffering from seasonal allergies?

In my non-medical-advice opinion, testing whole blood histamine is a good marker for methylation status. If its over 70, you are considered a histadelic in orthomolecular medicine, and you should:

Avoid folic acid... take 5-MTHF (methylfolate)
Avoid niacin... take niacinamide
Avoid B12 except for methylcobalamin
Take l-methionine or sam-e (if not bipolar)
Increase vitamin c... this neutralizes histamine in the blood
Google for histadelia, lots of good info

 

[MetalMX]

In my non-medical-advice opinion, testing whole blood histamine is a good marker for methylation status. If its over 70, you are considered a histadelic in orthomolecular medicine, and you should:

Avoid folic acid... take 5-MTHF (methylfolate)
Avoid niacin... take niacinamide
Avoid B12 except for methylcobalamin
Take l-methionine or sam-e (if not bipolar)
Increase vitamin c... this neutralizes histamine in the blood
Google for histadelia, lots of good info

Avoid B12?

I thought B12 should be used to treat it.

Im having a hard time finding hard info on whether or not Sublingual B12 should be used with those who have high mercury levels (such as myself) because it can methylate mercury and send it to other parts of the body.

So your saying B12 should be avoided for high histamine people. And methylcobalamin can be used for B12 deficiency ?

 

[RPHMark]

Methylcobalamin is the methylated form of B-12

 

[engival]

i started taking MSM powder; MSM blocks histamine receptors.

MSM is suppose to be great for allergies.

 

[LeanGuy]

i started taking MSM powder; MSM blocks histamine receptors.

MSM is suppose to be great for allergies.

Thanks envigal, I did not know this. How much do you take?

 

[engival]

4-6grams

 

[Dath]

I have wicked allergies and I do take MSM but I can't honestly say it offers much benefit when it comes to allergies. I remember taking up to 24 grams a day of MSM but can't remember if it helped with my allergies or not. However, I have found something that absolutely works for allergies, at least for me, and it's Oregano Oil. OO contains natural antihistamines and decongestants and it's the only natural product that I have ever found to actually help me and make a difference. 2 or 3 capsules a day of a high quality OO should do the trick.

 

[engival]

intersting, but both MSM and Orgenoa oil are great for Candida/ Yeast.

i wonder if candida/yeast is related to allergies, i think it is

 

[thegodfather]

Quercetin/Bromlain/Vit C combo.

 

[MuscleOlogist]

Zyrtec if you take it at night. Costco generic brand for the win.

 

[cumkwakka]

any success with the MSM?

what about high dosage vitamin c?

can anyone recommend a good brand of quercetin which has helped?

whats the science behind oregano oil?

 

[bioman]

Methyl B12 shots given by your Dr will go a long way towards knocking down allergies. I second the quercitin/bromelain/vitamin C recommendation as well. Magnesium supplementation also helps to reduce inflammation.