My diet and training are good, definitely good enough not to have these numbers imo. It turns out, one of the meds I take can have nasty sides of lowering HDL and raising LDL along with lowering testosterone. It can also raise fasting glucose levels, which my labs also show. Just found that out last night. So I'm going to talk to my doc about weening off the med to see if things improve. In the meantime, are there any supps that the minds know of that work to improve that ratio?