halo extreme first cycle/PCT

[Garciaryand]

Hey everybody, new to the forum. I've been creeping around for a few weeks doing research on an upcoming Halo Extreme cycle. I have a few questions and hoping for some constructive criticism on what will be my first PH cycle.
I'm 25 years old, have about 7 solid years of working out. Im sitting at 180 lbs, 12 percent body fat, and 5'7". I've ran a few natural test boosters in the past but got my hands on some halo extreme by IML. I've done a lot of research but have had some conflicting information so decided to create my own thread on this awesome forum!
Here's what I plan to run pre, during and post cycle.


Pre-load: 2400mg NAC, 1200mg Hawthorne Berry

Question#1 is it necessary to load NAC?

Daily on cycle :
Halo: 75/75/75/75/75 (5 weeks and 5 days/ 2 full bottles)
2.6g primrose oil( anti inf)
4g fish oils
vitamin code Multi
Joint support
4-6g Taurine
+potassium for back pumps
Added doses of Hawthorne berry and NAC
2 servings CEL cycle assist taken hours after halo to avoid absorption issues
E control for post cycle and flare ups on cycle

Question#2 Is an AI/ estrogen blocker detrimental during pct? Is a test booster such as activate extreme/huge berate detrimental during pct?

Post cycle
Nolva 20/20/10/10
Dpol
Cycle assist + added dosages of nac maybe tudca
Fish oils
Vitamin code
Joint support
Creatine
Zma

Diet: 3500-4000 clean calories. 2 gallons of water with aminos per day as well.
Consist mostly of :
Quinoa
Chicken
Brown rice
Fish
Red meat
Cottage cheese
Fruit
Greek yogurt
Gainer/Protein shakes
Oatmeal
Peanut butter, almond butter
Lots of bananas for potassium
Ezekiel bread
Almonds
Honey
Spinach
Protein bars
Cold pressed Virgin olive oil
2-3 bowls mixed raw veggies daily
Egg whites

Workout routine: still working on a split on cycle and post to help keep gains. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Lastly I wanted your guys thoughts on how quick I would bounce back pct. I'm not so worried about libido at the moment. Just want to make sure I have everything lined up to make a full recovery post cycle. I've been reading some threads on widespread forums about bloodwork and I have to admit it scared me a little bit from the cycle. But I think mostly it was people running it wrong and only using OTC pct. As well as blood work being directly after the cycle and seeing the shutdown on paper. Halodrol is suppressive!

 

[yates84]

1) preloading NAC is not necessary but it definitely won't hurt. Hawthorne berry needs to be preloaded for 2 weeks simply because it can spike bp initially.

2) nothing wrong with a test booster, very common for pct. An ai during pct is a great idea, low estrogen tells your body to produce test so it can be aromatized into estrogen. I'm sure you can see how this would be helpful

3) you won't know how quick you will bounce back until you pct. This is very user dependant. You might barely get any atrophy and never even notice the transition into pct but you might get shut down hard and it takes weeks to recover. Hormones can be out of whack for months after cycle, homeostasis can be a long process.

Good luck bro, hope this answers your questions and doesn't scare you too much but facts are facts.

 

[DonnieM]

One thread is enough, no need to post three of them...

 

[Demgainz]

1) preloading NAC is not necessary but it definitely won't hurt. Hawthorne berry needs to be preloaded for 2 weeks simply because it can spike bp initially.

2) nothing wrong with a test booster, very common for pct. An ai during pct is a great idea, low estrogen tells your body to produce test so it can be aromatized into estrogen. I'm sure you can see how this would be helpful

3) you won't know how quick you will bounce back until you pct. This is very user dependant. You might barely get any atrophy and never even notice the transition into pct but you might get shut down hard and it takes weeks to recover. Hormones can be out of whack for months after cycle, homeostasis can be a long process.

Good luck bro, hope this answers your questions and doesn't scare you too much but facts are facts.

Pretty much took the words right out of my mouth. If you can, I would highly advise you get blood work done prior, during, and after pct. being that it is your first cycle it would be advisable to get bloods done at least prior(if you have not gotten them done recently) and after your pct.

It is refreshing to see someone actually do the research and then ask questions regarding their layout. You might also want to consider taking something such as arimistane or reduce xt for cortisol control but it is not necessary.

180 pounds at 5'9'' with your body fat sounds like a nice base. You should have a nice run and a good choice for a first cycle.

 

[Demgainz]

1) preloading NAC is not necessary but it definitely won't hurt. Hawthorne berry needs to be preloaded for 2 weeks simply because it can spike bp initially.

2) nothing wrong with a test booster, very common for pct. An ai during pct is a great idea, low estrogen tells your body to produce test so it can be aromatized into estrogen. I'm sure you can see how this would be helpful

3) you won't know how quick you will bounce back until you pct. This is very user dependant. You might barely get any atrophy and never even notice the transition into pct but you might get shut down hard and it takes weeks to recover. Hormones can be out of whack for months after cycle, homeostasis can be a long process.

Good luck bro, hope this answers your questions and doesn't scare you too much but facts are facts.

Pretty much took the words right out of my mouth. If you can, I would highly advise you get blood work done prior, during, and after pct. being that it is your first cycle it would be advisable to get bloods done at least prior(if you have not gotten them done recently) and after your pct.

It is refreshing to see someone actually do the research and then ask questions regarding their layout. You might also want to consider taking something such as arimistane or reduce xt for cortisol control but it is not necessary.

180 pounds at 5'9'' with your body fat sounds like a nice base. You should have a nice run and a good choice for a first cycle.

 

[Demgainz]

Sorry for the double post. Phone is acting up.

 

[NattyBoy]

Having a good ai like exemestane on hand would be a smart move, e control is too weak imo. Dosage looks good, I would aim for 6 weeks if you have enough to do so. I would also consider running dermacrine or androvar along with the halo to keep libido in check and prevent lethargy as some people may begin to feel shutdown towards the third week of their cycles. Sup3r pct is a good otc pct product that you could run with the nolva instead of dpol and it would actually help cover many more aspects of pct such as cortisol, organ function, prolactin, estrogen and testosterone

 

[Garciaryand]

Thank you for all the responses. Working on getting bloods right now for pre cycle. Decided to take out dpol and replace with OL Super PCT. also looking into grabbing dermacrine. Should I start it at the beginning of cycle or like 2 weeks in? Do I continue it into post cycle?

 

[NattyBoy]

Thank you for all the responses. Working on getting bloods right now for pre cycle. Decided to take out dpol and replace with OL Super PCT. also looking into grabbing dermacrine. Should I start it at the beginning of cycle or like 2 weeks in? Do I continue it into post cycle?

You can start dermacrine from the start or later if you want. Im starting my dermacrine week 3 to utilize the whole bottle at a higher dosage

 

[unreal89]

you could also extend your cycle for a bit by running 50/50/75/75/75/75 etc

 

[unreal89]

im 6 days into pct though from super dmz 3.0 with nolva at 10/10/10/10 apex male 8 caps per day and ad-3 pct and recovering very nicely