Final thoughts?????... test cycle starting cycle soon

[TxM22]

Dbol 20mg for 2 weeks kickstart worth it???
Anyone in NY? How do you get blood work done since state law prohibits private labs???

Also my bf is apparently a bit higher than I thought. I am at 16%. I planned on starting my cycle tomorrow. Should I hold off?

Stats:
30 yrs old, 185lbs, 16% bf
test cyp 500mg 10 weeks
dbol 20mg ed 1-4 weeks
arimidex .25 eod or .5 e3d (adjust as needed and depending if I run dbol)

hcg: blasting 2 weeks 500iu ed after cycle, before pct

pct:
nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 50/50/25/25
(letro onhand in case)

Supps:
creatine
bcaas
fish oil
liv52
multi
taurine (if running dbol, for back pumps)

 

[TxM22]

Well I am just going with dbol 2 weeks (20mg) and extending it to 4 weeks (40mg) depending on if any sides at all.

Can anyone still help with how to get blood work in NY??
I will end up just doing post blood work at my doc and skip mid-cycle blood work if I cant find another way.

 

[CommanderM]

If it's you first cycle I wouldn't start dbol at the beginning but mid way through. I've used dbol only as a plateaue buster towards of the end of my cycle.

 

[TxM22]

But wouldnt that defeat the purpose of using it with a slow ester test like cyp in the first few weeks? I dont even know if ill hit a plateau on my first cycle so I think its best to keep it at the beginning of the cycle.

 

[CommanderM]

I know I hit a plateaue on my first cycle. And definitely if it's your first cycle you need to keep it simple. I was fortunate not to have any side effects with what I was taking. You want to see how your body responds primarily to test and maybe one other thing your taking. From previous experience Id say hold off the dbol to a point where you aren't Sri g results. And trust me me, even with the slow moving t ester , you will see results faster than you think

 

[TxM22]

Good points...I was thinking of either kickstarting it or not using it at all. I suppose it would be best to leave it out this time around. How about my bf? Think its ok to run test it at that %? Ive gotten many saying its fine, others saying drop it first.

 

[CommanderM]

Nah man. I did mine at 14% and I saw great results. I started at 210 and ended at 245 with only a 2.5% body fat increase. 16% not bad to start. Just make sure your eating a lot and clean for the most part

 

[CommanderM]

Just noticed this to: are you just taking test? Really?? Even though it's your first cycle I definitely would stack some additive with it. I think you'll be highly disappointed with your results with only taking 500 mgs of test. If you were to ask me I say through in some Eq or if your serious hgh. And btw 20mgs of dbol will not give you the result I thinks your wanting out of it.

 

[TxM22]

Well I was going to run dbol 40mg ed if the 20mg didnt do anything, but I also wanted to run just test because everyone's gains are obviously different and I wanted to see how I react with just the cyp. I will do my first pin later today. Main reason I wanted to keep dbol out because how strong it aromatizes and I dont want the bloat (even with adex). So I guess you could say Im not too serious yet because I dont even know how well (or lack of) that Ill respond to just test. Thanks for your help though.

I still cant get any more info on blood work in NY for private labs so I will just have to hit up the doc post cycle to check my levels again.

 

[AscendoTuum]

Thanks for the posts. Thinking along similar lines here, curious what your goals for this cycle are and how that would change with/without the dbol?

 

[TxM22]

Thanks for the posts. Thinking along similar lines here, curious what your goals for this cycle are and how that would change with/without the dbol?

Not sure I understand what you're asking but ill try to answer. I'm simply looking to put on some mass.

Dbol will give me gains earlier as a Kickstart before the test kicks in. I would probably gain more but it seems wise to stack it on a second cycle to see how I react to test standalone.

 

[mixedup]

16% is ok for bulking don't waste your dbol at 20mg better to save it