dsade - What kind of results would you expect for someone 12-15% bf? Nothing at all or just mediocre results that wouldn't justify the expenditure?
Lol, I see everyone else saying they're too low. Coming out of winter, I think I'd definitely qualify.They gave me a production estimate of 4 weeks, but I think it should be ready within 2 weeks.
I probably will run some loggers, but you will need to be >25-30% bodyfat and willing to post once a week update pictures.
No ****...I was starting to really get self conscious.Lol, I see everyone else saying they're too low. Coming out of winter, I think I'd definitely qualify.
Either way, I can't wait to try this!
Me too...Transitioning to a cut and sitting at, let's say, +12. Double whammy is that I'm not a good candidate for epitome. Now I have to cut the old fashion way.No ****...I was starting to really get self conscious.
ditto lol. Wish I was really fat to use thisMe too...Transitioning to a cut and sitting at, let's say, +12. Double whammy is that I'm not a good candidate for epitome. Now I have to cut the old fashion way.
Good to hear. There has never been a "preventing binge urges" for me, but I definitely FEEL better when I CONTROL myself and NOT been doing very well at that. Training is getting harder and harder to do as well, especially as I have to make it harder and harder to get any real results anymore and are exhausted all the time. Always trust your formulations.There is no too low with Epitome...at 10.1% your leptin levels are likely very low, so Epitome will boost your levels up, both maintaining metabolic rate and preventing binge urges.
so why don't you strategically decondition? Once I stopped killing myself in the gym I actually started getting real results. It was very hard mentally and actually took a serious injury to make me dial it back but once I did I am honestly so glad it happened.Good to hear. There has never been a "preventing binge urges" for me, but I definitely FEEL better when I CONTROL myself and NOT been doing very well at that. Training is getting harder and harder to do as well, especially as I have to make it harder and harder to get any real results anymore and are exhausted all the time. Always trust your formulations.
If you need someone to test that is under 10-12 holla at me.This is effective for over 25% and under 12%...effectiveness isn't so much there for in between where adrenergic or PPAR based fat loss products will be ideal.
I do - you have been here long enough to know that I have a scheduled "rest" day 1-2 times a week, a "deload" week every 2-4 weeks, and a week "off" the gym every few months. I've been doing this long enough - I know what I'm doing and listen to my body so that this doesn't happen, but my body has been changing again (as it does) with things, etc. and has been "forcing" a "week off" once a month these last few months. Please make sure that you don't assume things from a comment without knowing the facts. Thanks!so why don't you strategically decondition? Once I stopped killing myself in the gym I actually started getting real results. It was very hard mentally and actually took a serious injury to make me dial it back but once I did I am honestly so glad it happened.
I was going to respond aggressively as you did but a) the karma isn't worth it and b) I don't want to look as foolish as you.I do - you have been here long enough to know that I have a scheduled "rest" day 1-2 times a week, a "deload" week every 2-4 weeks, and a week "off" the gym every few months. I've been doing this long enough - I know what I'm doing and listen to my body so that this doesn't happen, but my body has been changing again (as it does) with things, etc. and has been "forcing" a "week off" once a month these last few months. Please make sure that you don't assume things from a comment without knowing the facts. Thanks!
DSADE while we are eating for BRITE what would you say is best for PPAR fat loss?This is effective for over 25% and under 12%...effectiveness isn't so much there for in between where adrenergic or PPAR based fat loss products will be ideal.
DCP will be your best bet.DSADE while we are eating for BRITE what would you say is best for PPAR fat loss?
DSADE since I am brain dead can you remind me if DCP can be taken with food or is it more effective on an empty stomach? Thanks as usualDCP will be your best bet.
You dose 20-30 minutes BEFORE meals.DSADE since I am brain dead can you remind me if DCP can be taken with food or is it more effective on an empty stomach? Thanks as usual
Have you posted the label up yet?Yep...labels shipped today and will arrive on Monday, which means they are clear to start capping. This is the big first release of the year that will make fat reduction for the endomorph a much easier reality. Plenty of time to incorporate this and lose quite a bit of fat before Summer.
What about leaner folk?Run it until you reach 15% or so.
Matt has said a few times that this is for heavier individuals OR those sub 12%.What about leaner folk?
I mean I'm sure if I cut out Oreos and stuff I'll get under 9% but how would this help me?
One of the primary ingredients normalizes Leptin, which for the fatter customers means bringing Leptin levels down within normal range. For lean people, under 12%, it normalizes Leptin levels back up to normal, so will help you lean out even more.What about leaner folk?
I mean I'm sure if I cut out Oreos and stuff I'll get under 9% but how would this help me?
= if u are in between, F off and learn how to diet effectively lmaoOne of the primary ingredients normalizes Leptin, which for the fatter customers means bringing Leptin levels down within normal range. For lean people, under 12%, it normalizes Leptin levels back up to normal, so will help you lean out even more.
No. If you are 12-15% bf get down first (or up if you want).so if your below 12% better to sit this one out? I might grab more myo instead next order then.
No...at or below 12% your Leptin levels start falling dramatically, causing your fat loss to stall out and triggering extremely hard to control cravings. Epitome normalizes Leptin levels, keeping fat loss consistent and short-circuiting cravings.so if your below 12% better to sit this one out? I might grab more myo instead next order then.
Weird that the middle bf people are not so lucky.No...at or below 12% your Leptin levels start falling dramatically, causing your fat loss to stall out and triggering extremely hard to control cravings. Epitome normalizes Leptin levels, keeping fat loss consistent and short-circuiting cravings. Epitome - Extremely useful for >20-25% body fat Very useful for <12% Not very useful for 20-14% or so bodyfat, depending on natural setpoint.
It's just that leptin is not one of the main players...it's functioning as it's supposed to, which is to keep you "normal" or around setpoint. Humans are not "meant" to be over 20% bodyfat, nor are they "meant" to be much under 12%, which is why the system functions as it does.Weird that the middle bf people are not so lucky.
Correct me if wrong, but isn't "middle bf people" where the combination of Basic and Epitome comes in?It's just that leptin is not one of the main players...it's functioning as it's supposed to, which is to keep you "normal" or around setpoint. Humans are not "meant" to be over 20% bodyfat, nor are they "meant" to be much under 12%, which is why the system functions as it does.
To get much lower that average, initially you need to hit PPAR systems and Adrenergic/Lipolytic/Thermogenic pathways.
Nope...Basic is a stripped down version of the low bodyfat version (full Leptigen original had about 30 ingredients). If your Leptin levels are within normal, then Leptin manipulation won't do much for you at all.Correct me if wrong, but isn't "middle bf people" where the combination of Basic and Epitome comes in?
awesome! Can't wait!I'm expecting an update tomorrow.
How bout now?I'm expecting an update tomorrow.
AwesomeLooks like about a week from Monday.
Excellent. Glad you mentioned eviscerate as I love it lol.For Epitome >25% you will want to avoid Glucosamine taken orally (the Glucosamine in Eviscerate+ is fine). For sub 12-14% Epitome, you are clear to combine it with anything.
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