ive done epistane and albuterol, clen isnt worth the risk for majority of people. i cant really say forsure how much of an effect it had though. i was looking at it from an on-paper point of view. an anabolic and beta agonist combined with a cutting diet sounded pretty good to me. one thing to note though is i would get random cramps like in my hamstring while sleeping or sitting in class from the albuterol. those were a pain in the ass (literally), but theywould pass within minutes