Epi Strong Cycle Looking for Help

[sparkman1006]

Plain on doing Epi Strong Cycle..Here is what I got...


On Cycle:

Preload Life Support One week and then take during On
epi-strong: 30/45/45/45/60/60
Primaforce Cissus 40% Ketosterones (120 caps) for Joints
Dymatize GABA 111 Grams @ 4gm at bedtime
Fish Oil 6g
Multi-Vitamin



PCT:
PES Erase
SNS DAA
Life Support
Competitive Edge Labs Cycle Assist
Tamoxifen Citrate @ 40/40/20/20 from rui-products
Dymatize GABA 111 Grams @ 4gm at bedtime
Primaforce Cissus 40% Ketosterones (120 caps) for Joints
Fish Oil 6g
Multi-Vitamin


What do ya'll think..Do I need 2 add subtract or change anything...Or should I stack anything with epi strong or take solo..Change brand??

 

[RickRock13]

Looks pretty good to me bud, and it looks lije you have done some homework, but there just a few things I would change. First is your dosing of Nolva (Tamoxifen) in PCT. There is no need to go higher than 20/20/10/10 IMO. Second thing is that while I think having Erase in PCT is a good idea, I would run it at a low dose. Epi-strong will lower estrogen quite a bit itself, and you don't want to completely crush it in PCT, so a Low dose will allow that and then you will be able to run that bottle a little longer after PCT to prevent estrogen rebound after coming off the Nolva. You also may be able to drop Cissis at some point in PCT as well, but it wouldn't hurt to run it the whole PCT either.

Everything else looks great man. Epi-strong dosed exactly like you have it on a solo run was the best I have had, so have fun!!

 

[TheDarkHalf]

Looks pretty good to me bud, and it looks lije you have done some homework, but there just a few things I would change. First is your dosing of Nolva (Tamoxifen) in PCT. There is no need to go higher than 20/20/10/10 IMO. Second thing is that while I think having Erase in PCT is a good idea, I would run it at a low dose. Epi-strong will lower estrogen quite a bit itself, and you don't want to completely crush it in PCT, so a Low dose will allow that and then you will be able to run that bottle a little longer after PCT to prevent estrogen rebound after coming off the Nolva. You also may be able to drop Cissis at some point in PCT as well, but it wouldn't hurt to run it the whole PCT either.

Everything else looks great man. Epi-strong dosed exactly like you have it on a solo run was the best I have had, so have fun!!

I also agree with this....

You should also be using some sort of a creatine both on and in pct. And a preworkout is optional, but not necessary.

You might also want to think about adding transaderm to your cycle. Would help with libido and shutdown and will make PCT a lot easier.

 

[bigwhiteguy29]

nolva 20/20/10/10
Daa 3g/3g/3g/3g
Erase 0/0/1/2/3/3/3

Note i think SNS is 45 servings so you could start the DAA a couple days before PCT starts and high dose it week one to get into your system.

 

[sparkman1006]

Plain on doing Epi Strong Cycle..Here is what I got now


On Cycle:

Preload Life Support One week and then take during On
epi-strong: 30/45/45/45/60/60
Primaforce Cissus 40% Ketosterones (120 caps) for Joints
Dymatize GABA 111 Grams @ 4gm at bedtime
Fish Oil 6g
Multi-Vitamin
Optimum BCAA Caps 2 before workout 2 after
Optimum Whey
Optimum Casien @ bedtime
BodyTech 100% Pure Creatine Monohydrate


PCT:
PES Erase 0/0/1/2/3/3/3
SNS DAA 3g/3g/3g/3g
Life Support
Competitive Edge Labs Cycle Assist
nolva Tamoxifen Citrate @ 20/20/10/10 from rui-products
Dymatize GABA 111 Grams @ 4gm at bedtime
Primaforce Cissus 40% Ketosterones (120 caps) for Joints
Fish Oil 6g
Multi-Vitamin
Optimum BCAA Caps 2 before workout 2 after
Optimum Whey
Optimum Casien @ bedtime
BodyTech 100% Pure Creatine Monohydrate


Also I bought 2 bottle of epi strong the first time..Becuase this cycle requires 133 caps I would had 47 caps left over.Went and bought one more bottle so I could run another cycle later on..

 

[RickRock13]

Plain on doing Epi Strong Cycle..Here is what I got now


On Cycle:

Preload Life Support One week and then take during On
epi-strong: 30/45/45/45/60/60
Primaforce Cissus 40% Ketosterones (120 caps) for Joints
Dymatize GABA 111 Grams @ 4gm at bedtime
Fish Oil 6g
Multi-Vitamin
Optimum BCAA Caps 2 before workout 2 after
Optimum Whey
Optimum Casien @ bedtime
BodyTech 100% Pure Creatine Monohydrate


PCT:
PES Erase 0/0/1/2/3/3/3
SNS DAA 3g/3g/3g/3g
Life Support
Competitive Edge Labs Cycle Assist
nolva Tamoxifen Citrate @ 20/20/10/10 from rui-products
Dymatize GABA 111 Grams @ 4gm at bedtime
Primaforce Cissus 40% Ketosterones (120 caps) for Joints
Fish Oil 6g
Multi-Vitamin
Optimum BCAA Caps 2 before workout 2 after
Optimum Whey
Optimum Casien @ bedtime
BodyTech 100% Pure Creatine Monohydrate


Also I bought 2 bottle of epi strong the first time..Becuase this cycle requires 133 caps I would had 47 caps left over.Went and bought one more bottle so I could run another cycle later on..

Looks pretty good my man. There is not much there I would change, and what you have listed with doses and what not all look spot on. The only thing I would consider adding is some HCGenerate to PCT, but it is not absolutely necessary. It might help you recover a little quicker and better. I like having extensive PCTs, but yours is decent with Nolva, Erase, and DAA. I just like to have a couple good boosters myself, just a personal preference.

Nice job getting things set up:cheers:

 

[sparkman1006]

Looks pretty good my man. There is not much there I would change, and what you have listed with doses and what not all look spot on. The only thing I would consider adding is some HCGenerate to PCT, but it is not absolutely necessary. It might help you recover a little quicker and better. I like having extensive PCTs, but yours is decent with Nolva, Erase, and DAA. I just like to have a couple good boosters myself, just a personal preference.

Nice job getting things set up:cheers:

Thanks for all ya'll advice and help...
Might repost this in diffrenet section bit here it is...

Now I need advice on deit and the Setting up the Best exercise Routine while On Epi Strong..Dont care if its cut or bulk..Just want to get the most bang for buck...
Diet is 40 protein 40 carbs 20 fat.
Should I take 2X bodyweight in protein while on,,and 1.5x when off..

I'm 5'7"
178 pds
14.3% bodyfat
30 yrs old
I got 4 weeks before I start this cycle was going to run more try to cut down bodyfat before start,,,


This is my current workout...
I have plenty of time to workout at home and work..Looking to get some opinions. Been doing for awhile need 2 change it up..


Day 1 Chest,Triceps 8reps x 3sets
Day 2 Legs 8reps x 3sets
Day 3 Shoulders , Traps, Abs 8reps x 3 sets
Day 4 Cardio
Day 5 Back 8reps x 3 sets
Day 6 Biceps,Triceps,Forearms,Abs 8reps x 3 sets
Day 7 Cardio










Day 1 Chest ,Triceps 8reps x 3sets

Bench Press - Barbell, Flat
Bench Press - Dumbbell, Declined
Bench Press - Dumbbells, Inclined
Flyes - Dumbbell, Flat
Flyes - Dumbbell, Declined
Flyes - Dumbbell, Inclined Bench

Lying tricep extension (skullcrushers) 3x10
Dips(weighted if need) 3x10 (or failure)
Standing dumbell extension 3x8-10
Overhead tricep extension (rope) 3x10



Day 2 Legs 8reps x 3sets

Squats - Barbell
Leg Curls - Lying
Leg Extensions
Calf Raise - Seated Machine
Hack Squats
Lunges





Day 3 Shoulders , Traps, Abs 12reps x 3 sets

Military Press
Reverse Flyes
Side Lateral Raise
Upright Rows - Dumbbell
Shrugs - Dumbbell
Cable Internal Rotation

Ab workout 3sets x 15 reps
Crunch - Decline Reverse (leg weights)
Crunch - Decline (weighted)
Roman Chair (leg weights)
Crunch - Machine Torso rotation
Crunch - Machine
Cable Chops with torso twist
Plank Hold (Left and Right)
Side Plank Hold





Day 4 Cardio





Day 5 Back 8 reps x3 sets

Barbell Deadlift
Lat Pulldowns - Wide-Grip
Seated Cable Rows
Bent Over Dumbbell Row




Day 6
Biceps,Triceps, Forearms,Abs 8reps x 3 sets

Zottman Curl
Concentration Curl
Dumbbell Curl - Incline
Palms-Up Dumbbell Wrist Curl Over A Bench
Palms-Down Dumbbell Wrist Over A Bench

Tricep Dumbbell Kickback
Close grip bench press 3x8-12
Tricep pushdowns 3x10
One arm tricep extension (dumbell) 3x8
One arm push down 3x8

Ab workout 3sets x 15 reps
Crunch - Decline Reverse (leg weights)
Crunch - Decline (weighted)
Roman Chair (leg weights)
Crunch - Machine Torso rotation
Crunch - Machine
Cable Chops with torso twist
Plank Hold (Left and Right)
Side Plank Hold

Day -7 Cardio



Going to add in HIIT Training for cardio

Any HELP is appreciated

 

[TheDarkHalf]

Only you can help yourself with your diet and training. You know your body better than we do, so you're better off setting up your training and diet for YOU.

All I can really say is keep it basic. Basic foods and basic compound movements.

 

[Sourdough]

Only you can help yourself with your diet and training. You know your body better than we do, so you're better off setting up your training and diet for YOU.

All I can really say is keep it basic. Basic foods and basic compound movements.

I guess personal trainers are just there for nothing then huh????


Id have to say that to a degree this is still true depending on what your past experience has been and where you are trying to go... sometimes you just gotta go with what you know and adjust from there.... but believe me there are plenty of routines and diets out there set up for specific goals that can def be a good starting point and get you to where your optimal levels might be over just a "shot in the dark" approach.

Plain on doing Epi Strong Cycle..Here is what I got now


On Cycle:

Preload Life Support One week and then take during On
epi-strong: 30/45/45/45/60/60
Primaforce Cissus 40% Ketosterones (120 caps) for Joints
Dymatize GABA 111 Grams @ 4gm at bedtime
Fish Oil 6g
Multi-Vitamin
Optimum BCAA Caps 2 before workout 2 after
Optimum Whey
Optimum Casien @ bedtime
BodyTech 100% Pure Creatine Monohydrate


PCT:
PES Erase 0/0/1/2/3/3/3
SNS DAA 3g/3g/3g/3g
Life Support
Competitive Edge Labs Cycle Assist
nolva Tamoxifen Citrate @ 20/20/10/10 from rui-products
Dymatize GABA 111 Grams @ 4gm at bedtime
Primaforce Cissus 40% Ketosterones (120 caps) for Joints
Fish Oil 6g
Multi-Vitamin
Optimum BCAA Caps 2 before workout 2 after
Optimum Whey
Optimum Casien @ bedtime
BodyTech 100% Pure Creatine Monohydrate


Also I bought 2 bottle of epi strong the first time..Becuase this cycle requires 133 caps I would had 47 caps left over.Went and bought one more bottle so I could run another cycle later on..

Might repost this in diffrenet section bit here it is...

Now I need advice on deit and the Setting up the Best exercise Routine while On Epi Strong..Dont care if its cut or bulk..Just want to get the most bang for buck...
Diet is 40 protein 40 carbs 20 fat.
Should I take 2X bodyweight in protein while on,,and 1.5x when off..

I'm 5'7"
178 pds
14.3% bodyfat
30 yrs old
I got 4 weeks before I start this cycle was going to run more try to cut down bodyfat before start,,,


This is my current workout...
I have plenty of time to workout at home and work..Looking to get some opinions. Been doing for awhile need 2 change it up..


Day 1 Chest,Triceps 8reps x 3sets
Day 2 Legs 8reps x 3sets
Day 3 Shoulders , Traps, Abs 8reps x 3 sets
Day 4 Cardio
Day 5 Back 8reps x 3 sets
Day 6 Biceps,Triceps,Forearms,Abs 8reps x 3 sets
Day 7 Cardio










Day 1 Chest ,Triceps 8reps x 3sets

Bench Press - Barbell, Flat
Bench Press - Dumbbell, Declined
Bench Press - Dumbbells, Inclined
Flyes - Dumbbell, Flat
Flyes - Dumbbell, Declined
Flyes - Dumbbell, Inclined Bench

Lying tricep extension (skullcrushers) 3x10
Dips(weighted if need) 3x10 (or failure)
Standing dumbell extension 3x8-10
Overhead tricep extension (rope) 3x10



Day 2 Legs 8reps x 3sets

Squats - Barbell
Leg Curls - Lying
Leg Extensions
Calf Raise - Seated Machine
Hack Squats
Lunges





Day 3 Shoulders , Traps, Abs 12reps x 3 sets

Military Press
Reverse Flyes
Side Lateral Raise
Upright Rows - Dumbbell
Shrugs - Dumbbell
Cable Internal Rotation

Ab workout 3sets x 15 reps
Crunch - Decline Reverse (leg weights)
Crunch - Decline (weighted)
Roman Chair (leg weights)
Crunch - Machine Torso rotation
Crunch - Machine
Cable Chops with torso twist
Plank Hold (Left and Right)
Side Plank Hold





Day 4 Cardio





Day 5 Back 8 reps x3 sets

Barbell Deadlift
Lat Pulldowns - Wide-Grip
Seated Cable Rows
Bent Over Dumbbell Row




Day 6
Biceps,Triceps, Forearms,Abs 8reps x 3 sets

Zottman Curl
Concentration Curl
Dumbbell Curl - Incline
Palms-Up Dumbbell Wrist Curl Over A Bench
Palms-Down Dumbbell Wrist Over A Bench

Tricep Dumbbell Kickback
Close grip bench press 3x8-12
Tricep pushdowns 3x10
One arm tricep extension (dumbell) 3x8
One arm push down 3x8

Ab workout 3sets x 15 reps
Crunch - Decline Reverse (leg weights)
Crunch - Decline (weighted)
Roman Chair (leg weights)
Crunch - Machine Torso rotation
Crunch - Machine
Cable Chops with torso twist
Plank Hold (Left and Right)
Side Plank Hold

Day -7 Cardio



Going to add in HIIT Training for cardio

Any HELP is appreciated

I think all in all the cycle looks great, homework has obviously been done.

Routine looks great for typical hypertrophy.... Dont be afraid to go heavier while on cycle, it will help you grow faster and you may be surprised at how much more weight you'll actually be able to do, just be cautious and use strict form with controlled movements so as not to injure yourself.

Youve got the basics down for the diet macros and now its just about sourcing those nutrients and doing so with foods that you can stick to eating day in and day out for 6 weeks and beyond... remember to constantly increase your caloric intake as the weight goes on. A common mistake is many guys think they are stalling out in gains so it must mean they need more juice when all they need is more food.

Good luck, you should have a very enjoyable run there with your setup

 

[gymrat827]

looks good, anything i would of rec'd has already been pointed out.