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For those that use DHEA with their TRT protocol, what does your dosing schedule look like?
Also, what effects do you notice?
Also, what effects do you notice?
It is expensive, but worth it if you can afford it. Pills don't really cut it.$227.00 per bottle? I appreciate the recommendation, but I can't hang with that!
LMAO stop shilling. Dermacrine is 1000 times better and isn't from a sh*t company.It is expensive, but worth it if you can afford it. Pills don't really cut it.
Wow ....why don't you just tell the man what you really think about it... Lol ��LMAO stop shilling. Dermacrine is 1000 times better and isn't from a sh*t company.
I didn't, I joined to post reviews on sup's...if you see my first 50-60 are all related to reviews and the rest are helpful advice...but DHEA falls into the same category, doesn't it?Joining the forum just to get views for your blog or to get more subscribers for your youtube channel just isn't right...Especially when there are sponsors that actually pay to be sponsors on here. It's pretty much stealing.
25mg daily sublingual. Effects are numerous, but primarily energy, mental clarity, and some alpha feel.For those that use DHEA with their TRT protocol, what does your dosing schedule look like?
Also, what effects do you notice?
or it's just a helpful recommendation...As Ive said before some people on here to flog their snakeoil!!
Lol! Helpful recommendation from a poster with no financial or commercial interest whatsoever in the product recommended. Nice one!or it's just a helpful recommendation...
Well you aren't very smart are ya. :bigok:Lol! Helpful recommendation from a poster with no financial or commercial interest whatsoever in the product recommended. Nice one!
Or if you have a decent head on your shoulders you can always order the Raw supplements and go from there. I do think dermacrine will give RS a run for its money any day of the weekLMAO stop shilling. Dermacrine is 1000 times better and isn't from a sh*t company.
Clomid and HCG are often used trt. I have used both and personally prefer HCG. If you're already doing test injections then why not pick up some insulin needles and do a subcutaneous of HCG? Stimulates leydig cells hell of a lot better than Clomid. If you're worried about estrogen then I suppose Clomid may be a better option for you.I had a similar question but I was wondering if taking clomid for trt and adding dhea good or bad?
You know all the big dogs here??? Please clarify. Are you a sponsor on this board. Dont see ruthless supplements listed as a sponsor company??? Either way you come across as an egotist and im being civil here!Ucheoma you are just one of those fake online police men who think they are serving their superiors well, by kissin' ass and artificially boosting their post count with drivel and accusations. What's next , you'll start reporting anybodys posts cus all you do is kiss ass. lmao
Funny thing though, I know all the big dogs here.
Unless you're wanting to have kids, HCG is not needed for TRT. The side effects of HCG outweigh the benefits.Clomid and HCG are often used trt. I have used both and personally prefer HCG. If you're already doing test injections then why not pick up some insulin needles and do a subcutaneous of HCG? Stimulates leydig cells hell of a lot better than Clomid. If you're worried about estrogen then I suppose Clomid may be a better option for you.
While on TRT HCG causes issues with E2 which is tough to control just on test alone. Throwing HCG in the mix makes it worse. There's many guys on here that have cut HCG out of their protocol and stuck with test, preg, DHEA and vitamin d3. So yes while on TRT with test HCG is not needed unless your wanting to have kids. It's not my opinion, it's based on fact. If it works for you using it solo then great.I personally believe sides are dependent upon dosing. I've used low dose just to bring the boys back some and worked well. Also total and free t levels were higher so I'd guess it has more than just the baby making factor in there. Esp after adding dhea and some others into regime.
But in General, yes, it is a fertility drug, but also works similar to clomid as far as getting the loop going again. So saying it's just for kids is just a bit vague imo.
Me ease up? You're the one that's uptight. I believe I said in my last post if HCG was working for you then that's great. I wasn't trying to be hard to get along with. All I did was state a fact. It's also great you don't have to use an AI. Some guys do like myself. I tried everything known to man to control my E2 without an AI. But back to HCG....more times than not guys have a tough time with HCG and drop it. If it's working for you then great.Actually I use it about every 6mo. Been on trt for 7+yrs now. And some of us don't have estro issues. I don't use an ai and don't need to, blood work agrees. I'm not sorry to have an opinion/experience. Ease up sir, we are all here to Help one another, not Correct them on their Personal experiences. What may work for one does Not for another, this is medicine- at its toughest I might add- where you'll find no two are alike. I just dont feel a person should wright it off bc of what common practice says. If i did I'd be screwed. Thx and take care.
IM currently on 190mg test-c split into 2 does e3.5 days.For those that use DHEA with their TRT protocol, what does your dosing schedule look like?
Also, what effects do you notice?
Some DIM would most likely stop the nip itch, which is just some conversion imo, and then your dhea could be higher. And some zinc- helps w conversion as well.IM currently on 190mg test-c split into 2 does e3.5 days.
I use 25mg dhea 2 days on 1 day off.. it brought my Serum DHEA from likr 90 to 352.8 ug/dL
if my Serum DHEA SULFATE goes over 500 i get slight itch to my nips the night of injection so 300-400 is where i like it
Hey, don't want you changing stuff if you don't have to. And I'm guessing you have a lot of aromatase enzyme floating around and that's why you need the adex. Surprised w DIM AND I3C as well as some zinc did nothing, that's crazy. I would figure some reduction at least. Oh well, just glad you found what works best for you. I just try to avoid scripts at all costs and does good for me and my clients so far. More power to ya and yes, holler anytime. Do prolactin ctrl as well if you ever need it. Also make a dermacrine-like preperation. Take care, A1 outNo worries man. Thanks for the offer. No offense at all but I'm a little nervous about changing anything in my protocol at this point. I did try DIM along with zinc and I3C and it just wouldn't budge my E2. Stayed in the low 40's until I began arimidex. .25 mgs twice a week keeps be in the low 20's. Haven't had any issues with it at all. I will keep your transdermal in mind if something comes up. Again thanks for the offer!
Agreed.DIM shouldn't be expected to lower estrogen because it doesn't. It helps with the metabolism of good estrogen and lowering the bad metabolites. It is good for you, but certainly not an AI.
There is literally 0 reason this product should cost that much. They're making some dumb margins on that. Dermacrine is a much better deal and very similar profile..... a much much much cheaper. That product probably costs easily under $20 a bottle to manufacture.It is expensive, but worth it if you can afford it. Pills don't really cut it.
I would not take DHEA if you are concerned about HPTA suppression.I had a similar question but I was wondering if taking clomid for trt and adding dhea good or bad?
100 mgs a day is way too much. Most guys on TRT take 25 mgs a day until they get their levels up, then take a maintenance dose. I get regular lbs and my Doc keeps a watch on my DHEA, pregnenolone, vitamin D among other things. DHEA and pregnenolone should be in every guy's protocol that is on TRT. Get regular labs to see how much you need to take.I would not take DHEA if you are concerned about HPTA suppression.
I took 100 mg/day for a coupe months when I was trying to raise my E2 (crashed it with A-dex), and while my DHEA went up quite a bit (229 to 737, in range 102-416), my testosterone went down (933 to 411, in range 348-1197).
maybe a smaller dose would have been less suppressive, but I suspect it would have still been somewhat negative in reference to my own production.
oh, I don't disagree about the TRT protocol. I was just responding to swollz, who was asking about using DHEA with clomid, which would be counterproductive, IMO.100 mgs a day is way too much. Most guys on TRT take 25 mgs a day until they get their levels up, then take a maintenance dose. I get regular lbs and my Doc keeps a watch on my DHEA, pregnenolone, vitamin D among other things. DHEA and pregnenolone should be in every guy's protocol that is on TRT. Get regular labs to see how much you need to take.
My bad....I didn't see that. I agree!oh, I don't disagree about the TRT protocol. I was just responding to swollz, who was asking about using DHEA with clomid, which would be counterproductive, IMO.
on a side note: the DHEA didn't really raise my E2 that much (from 5.5 to 6.2, in range 7.6-42.6).... and I was amazed how much it suppressed my testosterone. lots of people implied that it was pretty benign, but that's clearly not the case....My bad....I didn't see that. I agree!
I wonder if it suppressed it due to the high amount of DHEA you were taking? I've taken 25 mgs of DHEA and 75 mgs of pregnenolone everyday for 3 1/2 years and my dr dialed back the amount of my injections of test. I'm down to 50 mgs twice a week of test because my free T was through the roof. Weird how things can work differently from person to person.on a side note: the DHEA didn't really raise my E2 that much (from 5.5 to 6.2, in range 7.6-42.6).... and I was amazed how much it suppressed my testosterone. lots of people implied that it was pretty benign, but that's clearly not the case....
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