DERMACRINE / PHYTOSERMS 347
THE RUTHLESS RUTHLESS STACK LOG
I took delivery of a shiny new bottle of Dermacrine direct from the caring hands of the Ruthless representatives the other day.
Glory, glory, glory unto the muscle god.
Glory be, indeed.
Ruthless set me up with teh Dermage, so that I might log the results of its usage.
With that gesture of good will, I added an ounce of my own.
I bought up two bottles of phytoserms 347 to stack with teh Derm.
Started on that JANUARY 20.
DERMACRINE - 4 PUMPS PER DAY, SOMETIMES 5...
347 - 2 CAPS PER DAY, WITH OILS/FOOD/SHAKE AND BIOPERINE/QUERCETIN SUPPS
Notes so far?
1: Increased aggression, basic short temper, easy anger.
2: Sharp increase in libido. I mean, rolling over, standing up on the bus, these sorts of things - depending on who's in view - are out of the question.
That is in 4-6 doses.
WHAT COULD ACCOUNT FOR THIS?
AFTER SOME THOUGHT, I REALIZED THAT -
*** I FORGOT TO STOP MY METHOXY/DIVANILL/TONGKAT STACK IMMEDIATELY, AND SO, THE FIRST TWO DAYS, WAS ON THIS AS WELL AS THE DERMA AND 347.
ANYWAYS, after dropping these other supps, THE EFFECTS HAVE NOT BEEN SO PRONOUNCED.
IT IS MY FEELING AT THIS TIME THAT THESE IMMEDIATE EFFECTS WERE DUE TO THE WORK OF THE EXTRA METHOXY/DIVANILL ON THE DERMA.
so, as of 1/25, i am reintroducing the methoxy...
PURPOSE OF THE STACK:
I have been reading other 347 logs, and there have been two reported effects and one presumed that I am hoping to play off of the tried and true benefits of Dermacrine:
1) faster recovery
2) increased energy/aggression in the gym
3) increased protein synthesis
What should teh Derm add to the equation?
1) offset effects of tanked estrogen (as has been hypothesized by some as a side effect of the 347).
2) provide necessary substrate to maximize the impact of the bulbine, by increaing the levels of various anabolic/androgenic compounds.
3) bring some additional ai and estrogen control mechanisms to the table.
SUPPLEMENTATION AND SO ON:
test boosting and metabolism...
this last few weeks, i had been running a stack of tongkat, methoxy, and divanill.
coupled with other supplements and a decent diet, some hard work in the gym, results have been pretty good.
body composition tests show lean bulk increase of 4kgs, with a drop of .5kg fat, and a net loss of 1%bf, in about 3 weeks...
so, i will be replacing this stack with the 347 and the Dermacrine:
the 347 has divanill (not sure how much).
teh Derm has some bit of an ai ( that is if not the same thing as methoxy, a relative thereof?) 7,8 benzoflavone, as well as some chrysin and resveratrol, although it is mainly dhea made efficiently effective via transdermal absorption.
I AM ALSO TAKING SOME THERMO PILLS FROM XYIENCE - 2 A DAY, ONE IN THE MORNING, ONE JUST AROUND LUNCHTIME.
I AM ALSO TAKING 2 IFORCE TT-33 EVERY DAY, SAME SPLIT.
THE DAILY SPREAD
as of now, here is my supp routine:
morning -
1.5-2 liters of water with hco3 (sans aluminum)
2-3 grams alcar
1 gram vitamin c complex
nac
1 hour later morning shake -
b coenzyme complex
50mg zing picolinate
quercetin/bromelain
a handful of omega 3 gels
1 gram caprylic acid
coconut oil
5-10grams bcaa with 3-6grams leucine
20 grams wph
curcumin
100mg coq-10
5mg bioperine
1/2 gram l-carn l-tartrate
a couple grams taurine
a couple grams maca powder
5-10 GRAMS LECITHIN
a cup of coffee or 2...
typically spiked with some tongkat
workout intra/post drinks -
1/2 gram msm
10grams wph
5 grams bcaa (3grams leucine)
1/2 gram cissus
1/2 gram l-carn l-tartrate
a couple grams taurine
a dash of potassium chloride
20grams wph
1/2wph gainer (30grams malto and maybe 7 or 8 grams wph)
1/2 gram cissus
5-10grams bcaas as above
a couple grams taurine
a dash of potassium chloride
1/2-1 gram l-carn l-tart
600mg ala
curcumin
100mg coq10
5mg bioperine
FOOD STUFFS AND NUTRITION
maybe an hour after that, i eat some rice, drink some coffee...
THIS IS NOT PLAIN RICE.
IT COMES FROM A KOREAN RICE COOKERY DOWNSTAIRS FROM WORK.
I EAT SOME RICE "CAKES" (DDEOK OR SOMETIMES TTEOK).
THESE - THOUGH CALLED CAKES, ARE NOT CAKES AT ALL, REALLY.
MOSTLY STICKY RICE THINGIES, IN SHEETS, OR COOKED RICE CUT INTO LITTLE BARS, MIXED WITH VARIOUS THINGS.
TYPICALLY, I EAT 'YAHK BAP' (MEDICINE RICE) WHICH IS COOKED RICE MIXED WITH SOME SPICES, SOME SUGAR I GUESS, AND RAISINS, DRIED PEAS, SOME DRIED FRUITS OF VARIOUS SORTS, AND SOME SORT OF NUT - MAYBE RAW CHESTNUT?
I ALSO EAT A GREEN PLAIN RICE 'CAKE' THAT IS BASICALLY WHITE RICE MIXED WITH SOME SORT OF PLANT MATTER CALLED 'SSOOK' AND SESAME OIL.
CALORIES ARE A MYSTERY.
I FIGURE BETWEEN 3 AND 500, MAYBE 600 IF I EAT A LOT.
every day, i drink a couple more wph 'shakes' (it is pure wph from mvp 'iso 100' lately, and i love this stuff actually, but hard to call it a 'shake...' - still, perfect protein here. perfect product. love it!), drink some more coffee, some tea, some water, eat a few grams vitamin c, have a few multiminerals, sometimes some more b vitamins, a can of tuna and/or some chicken breasts, a handful of tangerines every once in a while, and so on...
USUALLY, FOR DINNER TIME, I DOWN A CAN OF FISH (SOMETIMES ABOUT 250GRAMS OF FISH, WITH BONES AND SKIN ATTACHED, WOULD EAT THE HEADS I GUESS BUT THE KIND MEN ON SOME UNKNOWN BOAT CUT THOSE OFF FOR ME...), SOME KIMCHI, AND MAYBE SOME DRIED SEAWEED. YES, THIS IS WHAT I EAT.
before i sack, i hit the cissus, the l-carn l-tart, gaba, melatonin, and some b complex and.or p-5-p and/or some extra biotin... get a wph and bcaa 'shake' in there.
when i wake, usually every 2 or 3 hours, i drink a 1/2 wph and 5 gram bcaa shake (or just the wph and some leucine caps that my best bro sent me!).
drink those with extra water...
weekends, i am a bit freer.
drank 4 beers this weekend - big time for me lately.
sometimes eat some mexican food.
sometimes go to dinner with the girl at a korean place, or italian, whatever wants.
i stay way from sugar - no deserts.
but, i wil eat most anything else.
except for cheese, icecream, milk...
avoid that stuff for the most part, though, it is not easy to do so with mexican, and sometimes i say wtf on the dairy thing.
calories are up and down, but i eat when i am hungry.
keep carbs to after exercise only, 90% of the time.
anyways, that is the deal.
EXERCISE MUCH?
workout routine should change a bit to take advantage of the supps.
gonna try to hit weak lifts, work on major body parts twice a week in expectation of the increased recovery from the Derm plus the 347.
so, roughly, this is the plan
THOUGH IT WILL CHANGE AROUND UNTIL I GET INTO A RUT THAT I WANT TO KEEP.
SEE THE DAILY POSTS FOR DETAILS...
Monday
incline db press - 8 sets.
overhead tri - 4 sets
pec dec - 4 sets
crunchers - 3 sets
standing one arm db shoulder press - 3 sets
LEG EXTENSIONS - 4 SETS
Tuesday
bb rows - 4 sets
close grip pull downs - 4 sets
bb curls - 4 sets
crunchers - 3 sets
machine rows - 3 sets
seated incline curls - 3 sets
Wednesday
squats or leg press or both - 10 sets (squats light, reps around 10 per, presses with calves on same machine, 20reps press and 25 reps calves with maybe 180kgs)
one arm db shrugs - 4 sets
lat delt raises - 3 sets
one arm lat delt raises - 3 sets
leg extensions - 3 sets
Thursday -
flat db press - 8 sets
tri pushdowns - 5 sets
machine press - 3 sets
crunchers - 3 sets
rope tri pushdowns - 3 sets
Friday -
one arm bent db rows - 5 sets
close grip cable rows - 4 sets
pulldowns wide grip - 5 sets
db curls standing - 4 sets
db curls sitting - 4 sets
Saturday -
squats - 10 sets (light)
romanian deads - 4 sets
leg extensions - 3 sets
one arm lat delt raises - 3 sets
lat delt raise - 3 sets
THE RUTHLESS RUTHLESS STACK LOG
I took delivery of a shiny new bottle of Dermacrine direct from the caring hands of the Ruthless representatives the other day.
Glory, glory, glory unto the muscle god.
Glory be, indeed.
Ruthless set me up with teh Dermage, so that I might log the results of its usage.
With that gesture of good will, I added an ounce of my own.
I bought up two bottles of phytoserms 347 to stack with teh Derm.
Started on that JANUARY 20.
DERMACRINE - 4 PUMPS PER DAY, SOMETIMES 5...
347 - 2 CAPS PER DAY, WITH OILS/FOOD/SHAKE AND BIOPERINE/QUERCETIN SUPPS
Notes so far?
1: Increased aggression, basic short temper, easy anger.
2: Sharp increase in libido. I mean, rolling over, standing up on the bus, these sorts of things - depending on who's in view - are out of the question.
That is in 4-6 doses.
WHAT COULD ACCOUNT FOR THIS?
AFTER SOME THOUGHT, I REALIZED THAT -
*** I FORGOT TO STOP MY METHOXY/DIVANILL/TONGKAT STACK IMMEDIATELY, AND SO, THE FIRST TWO DAYS, WAS ON THIS AS WELL AS THE DERMA AND 347.
ANYWAYS, after dropping these other supps, THE EFFECTS HAVE NOT BEEN SO PRONOUNCED.
IT IS MY FEELING AT THIS TIME THAT THESE IMMEDIATE EFFECTS WERE DUE TO THE WORK OF THE EXTRA METHOXY/DIVANILL ON THE DERMA.
so, as of 1/25, i am reintroducing the methoxy...
PURPOSE OF THE STACK:
I have been reading other 347 logs, and there have been two reported effects and one presumed that I am hoping to play off of the tried and true benefits of Dermacrine:
1) faster recovery
2) increased energy/aggression in the gym
3) increased protein synthesis
What should teh Derm add to the equation?
1) offset effects of tanked estrogen (as has been hypothesized by some as a side effect of the 347).
2) provide necessary substrate to maximize the impact of the bulbine, by increaing the levels of various anabolic/androgenic compounds.
3) bring some additional ai and estrogen control mechanisms to the table.
SUPPLEMENTATION AND SO ON:
test boosting and metabolism...
this last few weeks, i had been running a stack of tongkat, methoxy, and divanill.
coupled with other supplements and a decent diet, some hard work in the gym, results have been pretty good.
body composition tests show lean bulk increase of 4kgs, with a drop of .5kg fat, and a net loss of 1%bf, in about 3 weeks...
so, i will be replacing this stack with the 347 and the Dermacrine:
the 347 has divanill (not sure how much).
teh Derm has some bit of an ai ( that is if not the same thing as methoxy, a relative thereof?) 7,8 benzoflavone, as well as some chrysin and resveratrol, although it is mainly dhea made efficiently effective via transdermal absorption.
I AM ALSO TAKING SOME THERMO PILLS FROM XYIENCE - 2 A DAY, ONE IN THE MORNING, ONE JUST AROUND LUNCHTIME.
I AM ALSO TAKING 2 IFORCE TT-33 EVERY DAY, SAME SPLIT.
THE DAILY SPREAD
as of now, here is my supp routine:
morning -
1.5-2 liters of water with hco3 (sans aluminum)
2-3 grams alcar
1 gram vitamin c complex
nac
1 hour later morning shake -
b coenzyme complex
50mg zing picolinate
quercetin/bromelain
a handful of omega 3 gels
1 gram caprylic acid
coconut oil
5-10grams bcaa with 3-6grams leucine
20 grams wph
curcumin
100mg coq-10
5mg bioperine
1/2 gram l-carn l-tartrate
a couple grams taurine
a couple grams maca powder
5-10 GRAMS LECITHIN
a cup of coffee or 2...
typically spiked with some tongkat
workout intra/post drinks -
1/2 gram msm
10grams wph
5 grams bcaa (3grams leucine)
1/2 gram cissus
1/2 gram l-carn l-tartrate
a couple grams taurine
a dash of potassium chloride
20grams wph
1/2wph gainer (30grams malto and maybe 7 or 8 grams wph)
1/2 gram cissus
5-10grams bcaas as above
a couple grams taurine
a dash of potassium chloride
1/2-1 gram l-carn l-tart
600mg ala
curcumin
100mg coq10
5mg bioperine
FOOD STUFFS AND NUTRITION
maybe an hour after that, i eat some rice, drink some coffee...
THIS IS NOT PLAIN RICE.
IT COMES FROM A KOREAN RICE COOKERY DOWNSTAIRS FROM WORK.
I EAT SOME RICE "CAKES" (DDEOK OR SOMETIMES TTEOK).
THESE - THOUGH CALLED CAKES, ARE NOT CAKES AT ALL, REALLY.
MOSTLY STICKY RICE THINGIES, IN SHEETS, OR COOKED RICE CUT INTO LITTLE BARS, MIXED WITH VARIOUS THINGS.
TYPICALLY, I EAT 'YAHK BAP' (MEDICINE RICE) WHICH IS COOKED RICE MIXED WITH SOME SPICES, SOME SUGAR I GUESS, AND RAISINS, DRIED PEAS, SOME DRIED FRUITS OF VARIOUS SORTS, AND SOME SORT OF NUT - MAYBE RAW CHESTNUT?
I ALSO EAT A GREEN PLAIN RICE 'CAKE' THAT IS BASICALLY WHITE RICE MIXED WITH SOME SORT OF PLANT MATTER CALLED 'SSOOK' AND SESAME OIL.
CALORIES ARE A MYSTERY.
I FIGURE BETWEEN 3 AND 500, MAYBE 600 IF I EAT A LOT.
every day, i drink a couple more wph 'shakes' (it is pure wph from mvp 'iso 100' lately, and i love this stuff actually, but hard to call it a 'shake...' - still, perfect protein here. perfect product. love it!), drink some more coffee, some tea, some water, eat a few grams vitamin c, have a few multiminerals, sometimes some more b vitamins, a can of tuna and/or some chicken breasts, a handful of tangerines every once in a while, and so on...
USUALLY, FOR DINNER TIME, I DOWN A CAN OF FISH (SOMETIMES ABOUT 250GRAMS OF FISH, WITH BONES AND SKIN ATTACHED, WOULD EAT THE HEADS I GUESS BUT THE KIND MEN ON SOME UNKNOWN BOAT CUT THOSE OFF FOR ME...), SOME KIMCHI, AND MAYBE SOME DRIED SEAWEED. YES, THIS IS WHAT I EAT.
before i sack, i hit the cissus, the l-carn l-tart, gaba, melatonin, and some b complex and.or p-5-p and/or some extra biotin... get a wph and bcaa 'shake' in there.
when i wake, usually every 2 or 3 hours, i drink a 1/2 wph and 5 gram bcaa shake (or just the wph and some leucine caps that my best bro sent me!).
drink those with extra water...
weekends, i am a bit freer.
drank 4 beers this weekend - big time for me lately.
sometimes eat some mexican food.
sometimes go to dinner with the girl at a korean place, or italian, whatever wants.
i stay way from sugar - no deserts.
but, i wil eat most anything else.
except for cheese, icecream, milk...
avoid that stuff for the most part, though, it is not easy to do so with mexican, and sometimes i say wtf on the dairy thing.
calories are up and down, but i eat when i am hungry.
keep carbs to after exercise only, 90% of the time.
anyways, that is the deal.
EXERCISE MUCH?
workout routine should change a bit to take advantage of the supps.
gonna try to hit weak lifts, work on major body parts twice a week in expectation of the increased recovery from the Derm plus the 347.
so, roughly, this is the plan
THOUGH IT WILL CHANGE AROUND UNTIL I GET INTO A RUT THAT I WANT TO KEEP.
SEE THE DAILY POSTS FOR DETAILS...
Monday
incline db press - 8 sets.
overhead tri - 4 sets
pec dec - 4 sets
crunchers - 3 sets
standing one arm db shoulder press - 3 sets
LEG EXTENSIONS - 4 SETS
Tuesday
bb rows - 4 sets
close grip pull downs - 4 sets
bb curls - 4 sets
crunchers - 3 sets
machine rows - 3 sets
seated incline curls - 3 sets
Wednesday
squats or leg press or both - 10 sets (squats light, reps around 10 per, presses with calves on same machine, 20reps press and 25 reps calves with maybe 180kgs)
one arm db shrugs - 4 sets
lat delt raises - 3 sets
one arm lat delt raises - 3 sets
leg extensions - 3 sets
Thursday -
flat db press - 8 sets
tri pushdowns - 5 sets
machine press - 3 sets
crunchers - 3 sets
rope tri pushdowns - 3 sets
Friday -
one arm bent db rows - 5 sets
close grip cable rows - 4 sets
pulldowns wide grip - 5 sets
db curls standing - 4 sets
db curls sitting - 4 sets
Saturday -
squats - 10 sets (light)
romanian deads - 4 sets
leg extensions - 3 sets
one arm lat delt raises - 3 sets
lat delt raise - 3 sets