Shadowunder
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Hi, first i know test injections would be better but i am realy needle phobic and First decided to take 4 Andro at 200mg day wich would convert to a total of about 210 test per week.
I wanted this as a base first for stacked with tbol but i decided to go with dbol (20-30 MG Not Higher since i want no bloat) AI is on hand of course. Sure the 210mg Test is way more than Natural so it would give a gain boost to but mostly its a good base for providing estrogen (dbol does this too i know but want a base to feel and function good the whole cycle tough.
I read then here that many used dermocrine as a base and it worked awesome. Its not converet to test right? But it provides Energy and Libido function. Is it better to use than 4 Andro as a base for dbol.when yes how high can i Go with the dbol when the dermacrine does not convert to estrogen or does it? What dosage of dermacrine should i use. I before never heard of this Here in europe so i dont have any Information on it.
Or would you drop the dbol and Stack the 4 Andro/dermacrine with tbol or is it nosense since tbol many say it does Not give any Mass some say it provides some lean good Mass.
Thanks a lot
I wanted this as a base first for stacked with tbol but i decided to go with dbol (20-30 MG Not Higher since i want no bloat) AI is on hand of course. Sure the 210mg Test is way more than Natural so it would give a gain boost to but mostly its a good base for providing estrogen (dbol does this too i know but want a base to feel and function good the whole cycle tough.
I read then here that many used dermocrine as a base and it worked awesome. Its not converet to test right? But it provides Energy and Libido function. Is it better to use than 4 Andro as a base for dbol.when yes how high can i Go with the dbol when the dermacrine does not convert to estrogen or does it? What dosage of dermacrine should i use. I before never heard of this Here in europe so i dont have any Information on it.
Or would you drop the dbol and Stack the 4 Andro/dermacrine with tbol or is it nosense since tbol many say it does Not give any Mass some say it provides some lean good Mass.
Thanks a lot
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