As the title asks, is aspirating the deltoid necessary? As of now, the only spots I'm using are the vg's. I have 23gx1" needles. I've seen varying opinions on aspirating different sites.
Last time shot in my quads, got lots of blood when aspirated. So imo aspirating is a must. Why would you wanna cough and feel like chit?aspirate? That’s outdated medical practices
Aspirating isn’t necessarily at all. You scared of a little blood coming out? Unless your injecting tren your not going to cough. Just the needle touching the vein will cause tren cough so aspirated wouldn’t even help avoid it. I’ve never aspirated and have injected hundreds of times.Last time shot in my quads, got lots of blood when aspirated. So imo aspirating is a must. Why would you wanna cough and feel like chit?
Last night, app 5 hours after 1ml of Test cyp I started coughing like crazy. An itch that didn't want to subside. I have a slight hematoma at the site of injection. So... imo aspirating is a plus. Did I have any problems? No I didn't, but would still prefer not to cough for half an hourAspirating isn’t necessarily at all. You scared of a little blood coming out? Unless your injecting tren your not going to cough. Just the needle touching the vein will cause tren cough so aspirated wouldn’t even help avoid it. I’ve never aspirated and have injected hundreds of times.
I’m not sure what you’re talking about with coughing and feeling like shiit.Last time shot in my quads, got lots of blood when aspirated. So imo aspirating is a must. Why would you wanna cough and feel like chit?
Embolism? Where the oil gets secreted through the lungs. That's what I meant. But please correct me if I'm wrong. TnxI’m not sure what you’re talking about with coughing and feeling like shiit.
Aspirating isn’t going to effect this.
If this is happening to you it’s a mental thing. Coughing and allergies to the solvents in ug oils could cause these sides, but aspirating isn’t going to effect it.
The reason you would aspirate is so you don’t inject 1-5 cc of oil directly into your bloodstream. That’d be a waste of good gear.
But the actual chances of you injecting into a large vein after toughing out the pain of piercing it is very slim especially if you’re using 1/2-1 inch needles.
An embolism is the lodging of an embolus, a blockage-causing piece of material, inside a blood vessel. (Dowlands (2012). Dowland's Illustrated Medical Dictionary (32nd ed.). Elsevier p 606)Embolism? Where the oil gets secreted through the lungs. That's what I meant. But please correct me if I'm wrong. Tnx
Do you cough even from test ?Last time shot in my quads, got lots of blood when aspirated. So imo aspirating is a must. Why would you wanna cough and feel like chit?
Yeah it's not a big deal at all. It does happen however and some may panick where others wont realy give it a thought...From the first study, injections were given deep into the glute muscle using a 21g needle. They went in deep (probably 1 1/2” with a big needle. Coughing lasted 1-10 minutes and oxygen wasn’t required. Nothing to be really of concern, but it’s possible.
The second study goes on to describe how pome happens from a mix up in the body. This is probably why it happened so infrequently in the previous study, normally everything gets filtered fine before making it to the lungs.
But the secondary studies conclusion is as follows:
“The injection of oil-steroid solution was unwitnessed in the present case and it was, therefore, difficult to discern whether the initial shortness of breath was truly respiratory difficulty due to arterial injection of oil or more a subjective experience related to the injection event itself.“
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So many (including myself) have probably never heard of this because it happens so infrequently in an injection and what it does, is of no concern and over within minutes so most When this happens probably don’t give it a second thought
I'm just thinking out loud here, but I don't think this should be possible as the back pressure wouldn't be high enough? Also if you don't have any air in the syringe, then it wouldn't be possible at all?I don't aspirate anymore.
You really don't need to.
If you have everinjected something into a vien ( most people havnt) you'd know if you were actually in a vien.
It aspirated for you. Especially in a large gauge needle. The blood will shoot into the syring. Real unlikely to happen especially in the shoulder.
You use this for delts? I use 23g 1" mostly and a 22g 2" which I bought by mistake, so now I'll just use them, although the lenght is a bit*hAll my needles are 1/2 inch long and 25g.
So I don’t worry about hitting any large veins
True. You leave a little air in a syringe if you want it to aspirate automatically .I'm just thinking out loud here, but I don't think this should be possible as the back pressure wouldn't be high enough? Also if you handt have any air in the syringe, then it wouldnt be possible at all?
You use this for delts? I use 23g 1" mostly and a 22g 2" which I bought by mistake, so now I'll just use them, although the lenght is a bit*h
Interesting. I'll keep this in mind, tnx for the info!True. You leave a little air in a syringe if you want it to aspirate automatically .
It absolutely works that way though. I guarantee it.
Yea I use it for everywhere. I mostly inject glutes.You use this for delts? I use 23g 1" mostly and a 22g 2" which I bought by mistake, so now I'll just use them, although the lenght is a bit*h
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