I know this one will be one of those questions that are kind of dumb, but as they saying goes "the dumbest question is the one not asked".
So next cycle is coming up and based on things i can get my hands on i was going to run eq or deca and poss an oral kickstarter. Now may people do run deca to gain size, but some people are small and really need to gain size.
During my first run with bodybuilding I naturally was about 217 at 8% bodyfat and in pretty good shape. I ended up not going all the way with it as I got involved in sports in college and the diet and such went to hell and then i got a sit on my ass job at a bank. Long story short I took like 17 years away from the gym. When i returned at 38 years old I was 400lbs and Doctor was VERY CONCERNED. I had high triglycerides ( still do and she told me that was genetic more than weight and diet), high cholesterol and borderline dabetic. this sounded really out of whack but by bf% was like 39%??????
Well I have gotten myself down to my football playing weight of 300lbs ( bulked up to that in college) and i have had my bodyfat meassured at 18.5% but that was at 320. I am guessing i am about 16-16.5%. NO more cholesterol meds and no diabetes. I did this by hard training and also better choices in eating. I will say i eat more like a semi-in shape powerlifter in the heavier weight classes or in shape offensive/defensive linemen. I am on trt so I am already on gear and have done two test only cycles. If you count the trt doses i have ran a 450mg 12 weeker and a 600-650mg 14 weeker. Seems i get stronger but have not put on weight on cycle an except for minor acne have not really had any side effects. A couple times when I have been on cycle ( only ran two and have been on trt 1 year now) my blood pressure was "A tad high, but nothing to worry about" HBP does run in my family thought. High tryglcerides is the only health issue i have and i am on medication that controls it. All medical professioanls i see are ware including my trt doc. I do some bodyguard work so I am not really interested in shrinking but I dont want to carry the kind of off season look the pros do. Goals are really a good "off season" look
So at first I had planned on running this cycle
500 mg test ( plus 200mg trt) a week total 700 I would assume i should count it as. I have a habit of not counting trt dose 15-16 weeks
500-600mg eq week 15-16 weeks
30mg dbol for 33 days as a kicker
Well after reading and watching various videos on youtube it seems that deca is the go to second compound when you do your first stack
500mg test ( plus 200 trt) 15-16 weeks
400mg deca 15-16 weeks
30 mg dboll for 33 days as a kicker
So as happens often people get confused and I got confused. So The main thing I am wondering is will deca and dbol guarantee a huge weight gain particualarly the kind that will increase pant size and so forth if i keep my eating smart.
My understanding is guys back in the 70s used deca to prepare for shows so i figure guys could get lean from it depending on dose.
Now I am concerned about my hair as why masteron had not been looked at and with my lack of experience i figure i want to do at least two more cycles before i try tren. If any has ideas for other compounds please feel free. I have been told sdrol or dmz in place of dbol could result in leaner gains. One other friend was telling me since I have not had much sides with test that maybe go up to 750mg test ( plus 200trt) and see how that works and then add a compound.
I have clen, but am not really sure how to use it so i possibly will do a 12 week eca stack run. The way i often do it is one yohimbe with my first dose then two more eca and the a is only 81mg.
Thanks.
So next cycle is coming up and based on things i can get my hands on i was going to run eq or deca and poss an oral kickstarter. Now may people do run deca to gain size, but some people are small and really need to gain size.
During my first run with bodybuilding I naturally was about 217 at 8% bodyfat and in pretty good shape. I ended up not going all the way with it as I got involved in sports in college and the diet and such went to hell and then i got a sit on my ass job at a bank. Long story short I took like 17 years away from the gym. When i returned at 38 years old I was 400lbs and Doctor was VERY CONCERNED. I had high triglycerides ( still do and she told me that was genetic more than weight and diet), high cholesterol and borderline dabetic. this sounded really out of whack but by bf% was like 39%??????
Well I have gotten myself down to my football playing weight of 300lbs ( bulked up to that in college) and i have had my bodyfat meassured at 18.5% but that was at 320. I am guessing i am about 16-16.5%. NO more cholesterol meds and no diabetes. I did this by hard training and also better choices in eating. I will say i eat more like a semi-in shape powerlifter in the heavier weight classes or in shape offensive/defensive linemen. I am on trt so I am already on gear and have done two test only cycles. If you count the trt doses i have ran a 450mg 12 weeker and a 600-650mg 14 weeker. Seems i get stronger but have not put on weight on cycle an except for minor acne have not really had any side effects. A couple times when I have been on cycle ( only ran two and have been on trt 1 year now) my blood pressure was "A tad high, but nothing to worry about" HBP does run in my family thought. High tryglcerides is the only health issue i have and i am on medication that controls it. All medical professioanls i see are ware including my trt doc. I do some bodyguard work so I am not really interested in shrinking but I dont want to carry the kind of off season look the pros do. Goals are really a good "off season" look
So at first I had planned on running this cycle
500 mg test ( plus 200mg trt) a week total 700 I would assume i should count it as. I have a habit of not counting trt dose 15-16 weeks
500-600mg eq week 15-16 weeks
30mg dbol for 33 days as a kicker
Well after reading and watching various videos on youtube it seems that deca is the go to second compound when you do your first stack
500mg test ( plus 200 trt) 15-16 weeks
400mg deca 15-16 weeks
30 mg dboll for 33 days as a kicker
So as happens often people get confused and I got confused. So The main thing I am wondering is will deca and dbol guarantee a huge weight gain particualarly the kind that will increase pant size and so forth if i keep my eating smart.
My understanding is guys back in the 70s used deca to prepare for shows so i figure guys could get lean from it depending on dose.
Now I am concerned about my hair as why masteron had not been looked at and with my lack of experience i figure i want to do at least two more cycles before i try tren. If any has ideas for other compounds please feel free. I have been told sdrol or dmz in place of dbol could result in leaner gains. One other friend was telling me since I have not had much sides with test that maybe go up to 750mg test ( plus 200trt) and see how that works and then add a compound.
I have clen, but am not really sure how to use it so i possibly will do a 12 week eca stack run. The way i often do it is one yohimbe with my first dose then two more eca and the a is only 81mg.
Thanks.