don't speak without thinking, the so called "irreversibles damages" caused to the liver by the use of methylated substances has been OVERRATED for years, nowadays scientific studies which are specially studying the EXACT effects of 17aa on the human metabolism and its pathway are getting done and i've read a very exhaustive one where it explains how the doctors have been exaggerating the effects of steroids on your liver. A department of biomedical science, in north texas, lead estimations on the impact of 17aa on the liver, whose determining factors were focused on the blood chemistry profiles (AST, ALT, GGT and CK levels), which are all indicators of liver function, as we all know. In the group of bodybuilders, creatine kinase, aspartate aminotransferase and alanine aminotransferase were elevated, whereas GGT levels remained normal. But patients with hepatitis had elevations of all three enzymes. (but the CK levels was elevated in all exercising group). Read the conclusion by yourself,
"Prior reports of anabolic steroid-induced hepatotoxicity based on elevated aminotransferase levels may have been overstated, because no exercising subjects, including steroid users, demonstrated hepatic dysfunction based on GGT levels. Such reports may have misled the medical community to emphasize steroid-induced hepatotoxicity when interpreting elevated aminotransferase levels and disregard muscle damage. For these reasons, when evaluating hepatic function in cases of anabolic steroid therapy or abuse, CK and GGT levels should be considered in addition to ALT and AST levels as essential elements of the assessment"
Now, lets take the methylated PH example. We all know that first their pharmacokinetics aren't as high as they could be with "real" gear, like dbol or anavar. A lot of steroid users take dbol in the range of 150-200mg daily, same for anavar, which is even harsher than dbol. Now stop with the principle that " doubling methyls will double its damages on the liver". It doesn't work like that. What would happen if you'd be taking 40mg of M1T (supposing that M1T is the hardest PH of all of them) for a 1 month cycle ? Your liver values would be considerably raised, and I think running the cycle for more than 2 months would be taking high risks. Anyway, now if we take the example of a guy stacking TWO methyls, namely 2mg of mohn (which is nothing comparing to the recommanded dosages for effects on body composition,-this parameter being very important for the evaluation of damages done by steroids on the organism, for example, the quickest acting and mass-building compound will be the one who'll cause the biggest shut down in HPTA, testicle shrinkage, and other complications of the same kind-) and 2mg of ... lets take m5aa, would you say that this guy be completly insane to jeopardize his liver health with a monstrous cycle like this ?? The liver is THE organ responsible for Now please, if you got any strong arguments which can contradict my thoughts please let me know