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I have been doing some research about possibly "stacks". According to Bill Robert, there are two classes of AAS : Class I and II (listed below).
It is said that the best is to stack Class I and II, which yield to a synergy. It is also said that stacking 2 class I or 2 class II would lead to a "receptor competition" which yield to waste of compound, thus waste of effects.
As we all are aware of, Designer Steroids are just steroids that are not classified as illegal yet. But none of you can argue about the fact that Superdrol is a 100% potent steroid . This phenomenon made me think that we can also classified PH's in those two categories, and I found this :
Class I : binds to androgen receptor
AAS :
Trenbolone
Oxandrolone
Primobolan
Masteron
Nandrolone
Boldenone
PH's :
Masteron (Dromostanolone) based - Superdrol & Clones
Boldenone based - 1,4AD & Bold
Progestin based - (similar to trenbolone ) - Trenadrol & Trenaplex
Dienolone based - (again similar to tren ) - Mdien
Mepitiostane (Thioderon) based - Epistane & Clones (like Havoc & so on so forth)
Desoxymethyltestosterone/DMT (Madol) based phs - Pheraplex & clones
Testosterone
DHT (Dihydrotestosterone) based phs - M5AA
Class II : Does not bind to androgen receptor
AAS:
Dianabol
Anadrol
Winstrol (possibly somewhat mixed)
PH's
Oral Turinabol (Dehydrochlormethyltestosterone) based - Halodrol & Clones
Dianabol (methandrostenolone ) based - M1,4ADD, M1T, 1-T, Methyl XT
Winstrol (stanozolol ) based - Winztrol, Orastan-A, Furaguno, etc
Furazabol (miotolan) based - Furazadrol etc
Progesterone based - Revolt, Propadrol, Max LMG
Clostebol based - Chlorodrol, Oxyguno
4-AD
Mixed
Testosterone
Probably Oral Turinabol , but I haven't done adequate trials with it.
. Now, here is the ratio anabolic / androgenic of compounds :
Compound:------------------------------Androgenic------Anabolic
1-Testosterone --------------------------100------200
Anabolicum Vister(Quinbolone)(oral Boldenone )--50------100
Anadrol 50(Oxymetholone)-------------45------320
Anadur (Nandrolone Hexyloxyphenylpropionate)--37-----125
Anatrofin(Stenbolone Acetate)---------107-144-----267-332
Anavar (Oxandrolone )-------------------24------322-630
Andractim(Dihydrotestosteron)--------30-260-----60-220
Andriol (Testosterone Undecanoate)----100------100
Androderm(Testosterone )---------------100------100
Androgel (Testosterone )------------------100------100
Boldabol(Boldenone Acetate)------------50------100
Cheque Drops(Mibolerone )--------------1,800------4,100
Danocrine(Danazol)----------------------37------125
Deca -Durabolin (Nandrolone Decanoate)--37------125
Deposterona(Testosterone Blend)-------100------100
Dianabol (Methandrostenolone )-----------40-60------90-210
Dimethyltrienolone------------------------10,000+-----10,000+
Dinandrol(Nandrolone Blend)------------37------125
Durabolin (NPP)----------------------------37------125
Dynabol(Nandrolone Cypionate )---------37------125
Equipoise (Boldenone Undecylenate)-----50------100
Esiclene(Formebolone)-------------------No Data Available
Genabol(Norbolethone)-------------------17------350
Halotestin (Fluoxymesterone)------------850------1,900
Hydroxytestosterone---------------------25------65
Laurabolin (Nandrolone Laurate)---------37------125
Madol(Desoxymethyltestosterone )------187------1,200
Masteron (Drostanolone Propionate )-----25-40------62-130
Megagrisevit-Mono(Clostebol Acetate)--25------46
MENT(Methylnortestosterone Acetate)-------650------2,300
Mestanolone--------------------------------78-254------107
Methandriol(Mythelandrostenedi ol)-------30-60------20-60
Methyl-1-Testosterone ---------------------100-220------910-1,600
Methyldienolone----------------------------200-300------1,000
Methylhydroxynandrolone(MHN)----------281------1304
Methyltestosterone -------------------------94-130------115-150
Metribolone(Methyltrienolone )-------------6,000-7,000------12,000-30,000
Miotolan(Furazabol)-------------------------73-94------270-330
Myagen (Bolasterone)-----------------------300------575
Nilevar (Norethandrolone)------------------22-55------100-200
Omnadren (Testosterone Blend)-----------100------100
Orabolin(Ethylestrenol)--------------------20-400------200-400
Oral Turinabol ------------------------------None------100+
Oranabol(Oxymesterone)------------------50------330
Orgasteron(Normethandrolone)-----------325-580------110-125
Parabolan (Tren Hexahydrobenzycarbonate)-500------500
Primobolan (Methenolone Acetate)----------44-57------88
Primobolan Depot(Methenolone Enanthate )-44-57------88
Prostanozol------------------------------------n/a------n/a
Protabol(Thiomesterone)--------------------61------456
Proviron (Mesterolone)-----------------------30-40------100-150
Sanabolicum(Nandrolone Cyclohexylpropionate)-37------125
Steranabol Ritardo(Oxabolone Cypionate )--20-60------50-90
Superdrol(Methyldrostanolone)-------------20------400
Sustanon 100 & 250--------------------------100------100
Synovex(Testosterone Propionate & Estradiol)-100------100
Test 400---------------------------------------100------100
Test Enanthate /Cypionate /Propionate /Susp & Blends-100------100
THG(Tetrahydrogestrinone)-------------------No Data Available
Tren Acetate/Enanthate & Blends------------500------500
Winstrol (Stanozolol )---------------------------30------320
My problem is now :
1) Would it be best to stack two compounds that have the highest ratio anabolic / androgenic and are from different class ? (both of the compound are very high anabolic and low androgenic, one is Class I and one is Class II)
2) Or is it best to stack two compounds that would lead to the best androgenic / anabolic balance and are from different class ? (one which is really androgenic, and one which is really anabolic).
PS : I am not the one who "invented" the class at all or the ratio, I've just found that in various website.
I have been doing some research about possibly "stacks". According to Bill Robert, there are two classes of AAS : Class I and II (listed below).
It is said that the best is to stack Class I and II, which yield to a synergy. It is also said that stacking 2 class I or 2 class II would lead to a "receptor competition" which yield to waste of compound, thus waste of effects.
As we all are aware of, Designer Steroids are just steroids that are not classified as illegal yet. But none of you can argue about the fact that Superdrol is a 100% potent steroid . This phenomenon made me think that we can also classified PH's in those two categories, and I found this :
Class I : binds to androgen receptor
AAS :
Trenbolone
Oxandrolone
Primobolan
Masteron
Nandrolone
Boldenone
PH's :
Masteron (Dromostanolone) based - Superdrol & Clones
Boldenone based - 1,4AD & Bold
Progestin based - (similar to trenbolone ) - Trenadrol & Trenaplex
Dienolone based - (again similar to tren ) - Mdien
Mepitiostane (Thioderon) based - Epistane & Clones (like Havoc & so on so forth)
Desoxymethyltestosterone/DMT (Madol) based phs - Pheraplex & clones
Testosterone
DHT (Dihydrotestosterone) based phs - M5AA
Class II : Does not bind to androgen receptor
AAS:
Dianabol
Anadrol
Winstrol (possibly somewhat mixed)
PH's
Oral Turinabol (Dehydrochlormethyltestosterone) based - Halodrol & Clones
Dianabol (methandrostenolone ) based - M1,4ADD, M1T, 1-T, Methyl XT
Winstrol (stanozolol ) based - Winztrol, Orastan-A, Furaguno, etc
Furazabol (miotolan) based - Furazadrol etc
Progesterone based - Revolt, Propadrol, Max LMG
Clostebol based - Chlorodrol, Oxyguno
4-AD
Mixed
Testosterone
Probably Oral Turinabol , but I haven't done adequate trials with it.
. Now, here is the ratio anabolic / androgenic of compounds :
Compound:------------------------------Androgenic------Anabolic
1-Testosterone --------------------------100------200
Anabolicum Vister(Quinbolone)(oral Boldenone )--50------100
Anadrol 50(Oxymetholone)-------------45------320
Anadur (Nandrolone Hexyloxyphenylpropionate)--37-----125
Anatrofin(Stenbolone Acetate)---------107-144-----267-332
Anavar (Oxandrolone )-------------------24------322-630
Andractim(Dihydrotestosteron)--------30-260-----60-220
Andriol (Testosterone Undecanoate)----100------100
Androderm(Testosterone )---------------100------100
Androgel (Testosterone )------------------100------100
Boldabol(Boldenone Acetate)------------50------100
Cheque Drops(Mibolerone )--------------1,800------4,100
Danocrine(Danazol)----------------------37------125
Deca -Durabolin (Nandrolone Decanoate)--37------125
Deposterona(Testosterone Blend)-------100------100
Dianabol (Methandrostenolone )-----------40-60------90-210
Dimethyltrienolone------------------------10,000+-----10,000+
Dinandrol(Nandrolone Blend)------------37------125
Durabolin (NPP)----------------------------37------125
Dynabol(Nandrolone Cypionate )---------37------125
Equipoise (Boldenone Undecylenate)-----50------100
Esiclene(Formebolone)-------------------No Data Available
Genabol(Norbolethone)-------------------17------350
Halotestin (Fluoxymesterone)------------850------1,900
Hydroxytestosterone---------------------25------65
Laurabolin (Nandrolone Laurate)---------37------125
Madol(Desoxymethyltestosterone )------187------1,200
Masteron (Drostanolone Propionate )-----25-40------62-130
Megagrisevit-Mono(Clostebol Acetate)--25------46
MENT(Methylnortestosterone Acetate)-------650------2,300
Mestanolone--------------------------------78-254------107
Methandriol(Mythelandrostenedi ol)-------30-60------20-60
Methyl-1-Testosterone ---------------------100-220------910-1,600
Methyldienolone----------------------------200-300------1,000
Methylhydroxynandrolone(MHN)----------281------1304
Methyltestosterone -------------------------94-130------115-150
Metribolone(Methyltrienolone )-------------6,000-7,000------12,000-30,000
Miotolan(Furazabol)-------------------------73-94------270-330
Myagen (Bolasterone)-----------------------300------575
Nilevar (Norethandrolone)------------------22-55------100-200
Omnadren (Testosterone Blend)-----------100------100
Orabolin(Ethylestrenol)--------------------20-400------200-400
Oral Turinabol ------------------------------None------100+
Oranabol(Oxymesterone)------------------50------330
Orgasteron(Normethandrolone)-----------325-580------110-125
Parabolan (Tren Hexahydrobenzycarbonate)-500------500
Primobolan (Methenolone Acetate)----------44-57------88
Primobolan Depot(Methenolone Enanthate )-44-57------88
Prostanozol------------------------------------n/a------n/a
Protabol(Thiomesterone)--------------------61------456
Proviron (Mesterolone)-----------------------30-40------100-150
Sanabolicum(Nandrolone Cyclohexylpropionate)-37------125
Steranabol Ritardo(Oxabolone Cypionate )--20-60------50-90
Superdrol(Methyldrostanolone)-------------20------400
Sustanon 100 & 250--------------------------100------100
Synovex(Testosterone Propionate & Estradiol)-100------100
Test 400---------------------------------------100------100
Test Enanthate /Cypionate /Propionate /Susp & Blends-100------100
THG(Tetrahydrogestrinone)-------------------No Data Available
Tren Acetate/Enanthate & Blends------------500------500
Winstrol (Stanozolol )---------------------------30------320
My problem is now :
1) Would it be best to stack two compounds that have the highest ratio anabolic / androgenic and are from different class ? (both of the compound are very high anabolic and low androgenic, one is Class I and one is Class II)
2) Or is it best to stack two compounds that would lead to the best androgenic / anabolic balance and are from different class ? (one which is really androgenic, and one which is really anabolic).
PS : I am not the one who "invented" the class at all or the ratio, I've just found that in various website.