I mean as in if they are repub or demo as long as they are people who I can align my beliefs with. Extreme lefties or right wingers are dangerous, imho. She's one of them.
Their ever changing opinion scares me as well.
I agree the intelligence was bad on all counts with the Iraq War and Bush, Democrats, England, Germany, France and everyone else that agreed simply got it wrong.
Here is a nice collection of quotes from leading Democrats that accuse Bush of now lying and they do seem a bit hypocritical to me. The commentary is not me as well. This all was taken form a webpage.
As you, I do not like blindly voting in people simply for a "change" which will happen November 8th. Bottom line, I wish there was 3rd party of moderates because as of now the extreme sides of the parties have way too much influence.
"IRAQ WAR LUNACY
"Men often oppose a thing merely because they have no agency in planning it, or because it may have been planned by those whom they dislike."-Alexander Hamilton
The quote above by one of this country's most respected founding fathers is as true now as it was then. Don't believe me? Then what do you make of this quote by Democratic Senator Tom Daschle in a news conference back on Feb. 11, 1998, when President Clinton was ratcheting up support on a possible attack on Iraq.
"Look, we have exhausted virtually all our diplomatic effort to get the Iraqis to comply with their own agreements and with international law. Given that, what other option is there but to force them to do so? That's what they're saying. This is the key question. And the answer is we don't have another option. We have got to force them to comply militarily."
Kinda sounds like the same problem we faced last year doesn't it?? It was the same problem, and is a prime example of Alexander Hamilton's point. Now look at what Senator Daschle has to say as the war in Iraq began.
"I'm going to the White House this afternoon and I have a pretty good understanding, a pretty good idea what I'm going to hear. And I'm saddened, saddened that this President failed so miserably at diplomacy that we're now forced to war, saddened that we have to give up one life because this President couldn't create the kind of diplomatic effort that was so critical for our country. But we will work, and we will do all that we can to get through this crisis like we've gotten through so many."
Gee, in 98 with his beloved President Clinton in office the Senator said above that
" what other option is there but to force them to do so?"
He wanted us to attack Iraq then and now look how he acts now with a Republican president in office. Sure makes Alexander Hamilton look right if you ask me...
On this page you will see astounding quotes from people who sounded then like the current administration that they so detest sounds like now. What happened?? I think we all know. Read on if you don't and I'm sure when you are done you will at last.
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
We do Al?? Where have you been?? Oh yeah, speaking to MORON.ORG on how Bush betrayed his country and played on our fears?? Amazing isn't it folks??
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.
The bottom line?
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998.
Boy, the Burglar sure seems like he was convinced about Saddam.Who the heck names their son Sandy??
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.
The San Francisco Liberal Treat! It's amazing isn't it folks?
"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.
Boy, here tune sure has changed in recent times! Can you say " Not so bright"??
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
Right Al! And if he doesn't let you fully inspect for weapons we should also assume that he has them right??? Do these people ever think that these things they say won't come back to haunt them??
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.
We have known for many years Senator Kennedy, that you are full of.....err uh err uh
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.
There's John Kerry giving his vote for the president to have authority to use force. That's not what he wants you to believe now that weapons have not been discovered!
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002.
"unmistakable evidence." Gee, I guess Democrats should accuse him of lying along with the president eh?? Why do I doubt that they will??
"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do." Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.
Yes Rep. Waxman, and the UN and your party's solution was to make another resolution!!! It's like drawing 17 lines in the sand, Saddam crossing each one and then saying for the 18th time Don't you dare cross this one Saddam??? It's incredible folks, it truly is!
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002
They say that Bush lied about the intelligence reports about Saddam. Tell me, if that is so, then doesn't it seem that the junior Senator from New York is lying as well? She sure seems concerned doesn't she?? HYPOCRISY!!
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002.
Compelling Evidence?? I've heard them say Unjust war, war for oil, and that Bush lied. I don't see that there from Senator Graham do you??
"[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
Listen to what Senator Kerry is saying nowadays. Can you say HYPOCRITE???
"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer- range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." -- From a December 6, 2001 letter signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold Ford, & Tom Lantos among others
I like Ford, I like Lieberman. They are closer to the old style Democrats who were vigilant towards national security.
"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline Albright, 1998
YES!! That's right Madeline Not-so-Bright!! If you and your liberal friends had their way that is just what would have happened!! Hans Trixed and his inspector Clouseau's would never have found them in a million years. Eventually, with no weapons found, pressure on the UN from the axis of Weasel as well as Russia and China would have resulted in the lifting of the sanctions, essentially opening the vault for Saddam to start rebuilding his military as well as making his quest to seek weapons of mass destruction far easier! Things like this are why I went ahead and created this site. The average person in this country never gets to see a quote like this. Until Now!!
"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002
17 resolutions later and he still didn't comply! Let me guess Barbara, you wanted to go for an 18th??
The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability." -- Robert Byrd, October 2002
The so called "conscience of the Senate" really must not have one. You can hear him nowadays accusing the president of everything except treason! Give him time though, he may get to it soon enough. A Former member of the Klu Klux Klan and a HYPOCRITE! "Sheets" belongs here at the Museum.
"What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs." -- Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002
Here's my French Translation of what old Jacques said::
What is at stake how to keep Saddam in power so that we can continue to make and collect money from Iraq. Baghdad's regime has been Friendly with France since the days we built them that Nuclear Power plant that those evil Israelis blew to smithereens. Today there may be some evidences of France illegally selling arms and military equipment to Iraq and with an absence of inspectors it won't be proved.
"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998
I want to hit liberals over the head with this quote don't you?
"I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out." -- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003
They love to take shots at current Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. I wonder what they would think of this quote by Clinton's guy??
"Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people." -- Tom Daschle in 1998
Tom Daschle sure seemed like a real smart guy looking out for the safety of his country back during the Clinton Administration. I guess he only chooses to be smart when a Democrat is in the white house. Please vote him out of office South Dakota!!
"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002
This guy is running for president. Look what he says then. Listen to what he says now. Does he think we are stupid? Evidently.
"I share the administration's goals in dealing with Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction." -- **** Gephardt in September of 2002
Sorry ****. While you were off being one by calling President Bush a "miserable failure", you did your best to ensure that your campaign was one as well.
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." -- Bob Graham, December 2002
The should plaster this quote every where for all those Bush Lied Morons.
"I will be voting to give the president of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- John F. Kerry, Oct 2002
He now says that he didn't authorize force, just the threat of force. Do you want to give him your vote and authorize him to become Presient? Yeah I can see it now, No I didn't authorize this Large tax increase, I only authorized the idea of a Large tax increase!
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandates of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." -- Carl Levin, Sept 19, 2002
Common belief! Did you hear that leftist looney's?? It was a common belief by the whole darn world. Of course the Bush Lied morons still can't get this through their cement thick heads!
"Over the years, Iraq has worked to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. During 1991 - 1994, despite Iraq's denials, U.N. inspectors discovered and dismantled a large network of nuclear facilities that Iraq was using to develop nuclear weapons. Various reports indicate that Iraq is still actively pursuing nuclear weapons capability. There is no reason to think otherwise. Beyond nuclear weapons, Iraq has actively pursued biological and chemical weapons.U.N. inspectors have said that Iraq's claims about biological weapons is neither credible nor verifiable. In 1986, Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran, and later, against its own Kurdish population. While weapons inspections have been successful in the past, there have been no inspections since the end of 1998. There can be no doubt that Iraq has continued to pursue its goal of obtaining weapons of mass destruction." -- Patty Murray, October 9, 2002
No reason to think otherwise?? Did anybody see that?? Another case where the Bush Lied Morons need to open their eyes to.
"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998
Give me an H, Give me a Y, Give me a P.. oh hell, we all know what she is!!
"Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production." -- Ex-Un Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter in 1998
Coming straight from the Horse's Ass! No I didn't mean mouth. Scott said all these things but then made a complete 180 degree turn once he was paid some bucks by an Iraqi for some movie deal.
"Saddam's existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose a very real threat to America, now. Saddam has used chemical weapons before, both against Iraq's enemies and against his own people. He is working to develop delivery systems like missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles that could bring these deadly weapons against U.S. forces and U.S. facilities in the Middle East." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002
I'll tell you, these ding dong's must really hate it when they have to deal with their old quotes about this subject. It makes them all look so foolish.
"Whether one agrees or disagrees with the Administration's policy towards Iraq, I don't think there can be any question about Saddam's conduct. He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do. He lies and cheats; he snubs the mandate and authority of international weapons inspectors; and he games the system to keep buying time against enforcement of the just and legitimate demands of the United Nations, the Security Council, the United States and our allies. Those are simply the facts." -- Henry Waxman, Oct 10, 2002
Enough already!!
OK! Let's get to the point folks. All you hear nowadays is "unjust war" "there are no weapons of mass destruction" or that "Bush Lied". Based on what you have seen here, does it make any sense? How can people who we've quoted above say one thing about the Iraq war and then act as if they never said it by the comments they make now? It's called HYPOCRISY! It's just the type of thing that this Museum was created for. If you are undecided on who you will vote for this coming election I hope this page give you cause for concern about voting for a Democrat!"