Bulk or cut

[Dr.Stri8ed]

What is your exact cycle

Just tren e 400mg a week. I wanted to see what it did without test.

 

[craigydar]

Just tren e 400mg a week. I wanted to see what it did without test.

Really , libido must be a problem mate
Y didn't u do test ??

 

[Dr.Stri8ed]

Really , libido must be a problem mate
Y didn't u do test ??

Libido is sky high. I didn't throw in test cuz I didn't wanna have to worry about estrogen.

 

[frogleg]

Libido is sky high. I didn't throw in test cuz I didn't wanna have to worry about estrogen.

200mg test P or E shouldn't have to worry about estrogen or about your dick going limp. Not bashing or hating on you but seems like with tren e as your first cycle estrogen would be the least or your worries

 

[Dr.Stri8ed]

200mg test P or E shouldn't have to worry about estrogen or about your dick going limp. Not bashing or hating on you but seems like with tren e as your first cycle estrogen would be the least or your worries

All bases were covered from the jump. Prolactin included. Maybe u should ask questions b4 making assumptions. I'm far from uneducated about AAS. Ask around ijs

 

[frogleg]

All bases were covered from the jump. Prolactin included. Maybe u should ask questions b4 making assumptions. I'm far from uneducated about AAS. Ask around ijs

As we all know you will be competing in two shows this coming year and eat 5000 cals a day wow maybe you shouldn't advise people on their cycle when you have no experience. Anyone can read forums and studies online nothing beats first hand experience

 

[Dr.Stri8ed]

As we all know you will be competing in two shows this coming year and eat 5000 cals a day wow maybe you shouldn't advise people on their cycle when you have no experience. Anyone can read forums and studies online nothing beats first hand experience

I said FIRST INJECTABLE CYCLE

 

[Matthersby]

Wow Frog, you're going to make a lot of friends here.

 

[craigydar]

Well to be fair I am adding test to the the cycle , I've done tren before and I'll be eating 45000 cals a day . Seems maybe overkill as some people say eat 500 over maintenance . But some say don't even count calories just eat as musch as poss lol ???

. Training looks like this . Is this ok to bulk with

Hiit cardio 3x wk in am after shake 20mins

Monday
Shoulders 4 exercises, 3 sets , reps 8
Traps 3 excercises 3 sets Reps 8
Cardio am

Tuesday
Back 4 exercises, 3 sets , reps 8
Biceps 3 exercises 3 sets , 8 reps

Wednesday no weights , cardio am

Thursday
Chest 4 exercises, 3 sets , reps 8 ( eg flat press, incline press, flat flys, incline flys) then next week ( decline press flat press decline flys flat flys)
Triceps 3 exercises 3sets 8reps

Friday no weights
Cardio am

Saturday weights in morning at 9am
Legs covering all parts incl calfs and squats. 4 exercises 3 sets 8-10 reps

Sunday off

Any advice lads ?? Does this work ok ? Are yours similar ?

 

[craigydar]

Or big muscle groups 4 sets as apprised to 3 on each exercise ? 10,8,6,4 reps ?

This one looks good
http://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/dougs-4-day-split-workout.html

 

[Dr.Stri8ed]

You'll b so anabolic and your endurance will b crazy. You'll b able to do higher volume with the heavy weight u normally do. I'd lift by how u feel, like strength is gonna b nuts and u won't fatigue nearly as fast. Watch I bet you'll do that routine and have to add more cuz you're not sore lol.

 

[craigydar]

Can't wait mate !
At doctors now waiting to get bloods taken . 2 weeks time results . As long as I'm in the normal ranges I'm on it lol

 

[Dr.Stri8ed]

Can't wait mate !
At doctors now waiting to get bloods taken . 2 weeks time results . As long as I'm in the normal ranges I'm on it lol

I hope all is well. You're gonna b a f*cking animal on this cycle.

 

[craigydar]

I hope all is well. You're gonna b a f*cking animal on this cycle.

An animal physically but I'm an animal mentally already ! Hope I don't lose it lol pull myself together . My diet is in check but not shooting over 4500 yet until on gear lol

 

[Dr.Stri8ed]

An animal physically but I'm an animal mentally already ! Hope I don't lose it lol pull myself together . My diet is in check but not shooting over 4500 yet until on gear lol

Its made me rather psychotic I'm not gonna lie lol. Yeah just wait til u get that appetite increase

 

[frogleg]

Wow Frog, you're going to make a lot of friends here.

Haha guess I got a bad start, don't think there's enough room on here for me anyway. sorry if I screwed ur post up craigydar

 

[craigydar]

Read that some people take 25mcg t3 on a tren course ? Even in a bulk .. Some say this isn't the point
So many views and opinions

 

[Dr.Stri8ed]

Read that some people take 25mcg t3 on a tren course ? Even in a bulk .. Some say this isn't the point
So many views and opinions

Its cuz tren negatively impacts your thyroid. Ppl run like 12.5mg ED or 25mg EOD only for a few weeks b4 pct to normalize their levels. Its not necessary but it wouldn't hurt to do it. Not a significant decrease in T3, just a small decrease.

 

[craigydar]

Its cuz tren negatively impacts your thyroid. Ppl run like 12.5mg ED or 25mg EOD only for a few weeks b4 pct to normalize their levels. Its not necessary but it wouldn't hurt to do it. Not a significant decrease in T3, just a small decrease.

It's another thing in my body lol

 

[Dr.Stri8ed]

It's another thing in my body lol

Lol its not a must but it would help keep fat off of u during pct.

 

[craigydar]

Lol its not a must but it would help keep fat off of u during pct.

So like just before and during pct is it .
To keep gains etc during oct and after , what's your diet like ?
Mate honestly I'm counting the days down until I get my blood results back !! Excited to start ! Smashing the gym hard sore a f### lol

 

[Dr.Stri8ed]

So like just before and during pct is it .
To keep gains etc during oct and after , what's your diet like ?
Mate honestly I'm counting the days down until I get my blood results back !! Excited to start ! Smashing the gym hard sore a f### lol

Right b4 pct. Lol u don't wanna know my diet right now brah.

 

[craigydar]

Right b4 pct. Lol u don't wanna know my diet right now brah.

Surely you'd get fat off 5000 cals even on tren lol..
You doing any cardio

 

[Dr.Stri8ed]

Surely you'd get fat off 5000 cals even on tren lol..
You doing any cardio

Lol not with my metabolism. I've gotten leaner, no cardio. My leg days I'm at 5000 calories and for every other muscle I'm over 4000 calories. I count everyday. My maintenance calories was 3000 like almost 30 pounds ago so I knew I'd have to bump them up quite a bit. For example, yesterday I did chest/back and ate 4500.

 

[craigydar]

Lol not with my metabolism. I've gotten leaner, no cardio. My leg days I'm at 5000 calories and for every other muscle I'm over 4000 calories. I count everyday. My maintenance calories was 3000 like almost 30 pounds ago so I knew I'd have to bump them up quite a bit. For example, yesterday I did chest/back and ate 4500.

How come more on legs day ?
I'm at 4000 n my maintenance is about 3000 Aswel roughly but all calculators come up different .
As soon as I'm on the gear I'll be up 4500 which is basically an extra mass gainer shake .

One thing on my mind , if i finish training at 8pm i don't want too many carbs but need them after training . You think 50g whey isolate and 25g of express carbs is enough ? If obtained earlier in the day is add 50-75g carbs but don't wanna put fat on at nite

 

[Dr.Stri8ed]

How come more on legs day ?
I'm at 4000 n my maintenance is about 3000 Aswel roughly but all calculators come up different .
As soon as I'm on the gear I'll be up 4500 which is basically an extra mass gainer shake .

One thing on my mind , if i finish training at 8pm i don't want too many carbs but need them after training . You think 50g whey isolate and 25g of express carbs is enough ? If obtained earlier in the day is add 50-75g carbs but don't wanna put fat on at nite

I need more fuel on leg days, I need to bring them up the most for competition. I wouldn't worry about it brah, I'd still pound carbs postworkout, even more so on tren cuz it eats them up. I feel hypo so quick if I don't eat enough carbs. Plus 8pm isn't really late, I'd have at em.

 

[craigydar]

I need more fuel on leg days, I need to bring them up the most for competition. I wouldn't worry about it brah, I'd still pound carbs postworkout, even more so on tren cuz it eats them up. I feel hypo so quick if I don't eat enough carbs. Plus 8pm isn't really late, I'd have at em.

So like 50g carbs 50g protein then 10pm 50g casein

Have u competed before ?

 

[Dr.Stri8ed]

So like 50g carbs 50g protein then 10pm 50g casein

Have u competed before ?

U must not tolerate carbs well? Yeah I started competing almost 4 years ago. I have my next show in April and one in august.

 

[craigydar]

U must not tolerate carbs well? Yeah I started competing almost 4 years ago. I have my next show in April and one in august.

Do u keep up with ur blood results etc and try and avoid trt ?

 

[Dr.Stri8ed]

Do u keep up with ur blood results etc and try and avoid trt ?

Yeah but things r getting more serious now. I'm blasting and cruising from now on. If u plan on going pro that's a must. Cuz otherwise u can't maintain that level of size.

 

[craigydar]

Yeah but things r getting more serious now. I'm blasting and cruising from now on. If u plan on going pro that's a must. Cuz otherwise u can't maintain that level of size.

Jesus that's big time lol , can u get that prescribed ?
If my test comes back low still after 9 months I may try this s##% out lol

 

[Dr.Stri8ed]

Jesus that's big time lol , can u get that prescribed ?
If my test comes back low still after 9 months I may try this s##% out lol

Lol idt I could get it prescribed. I'm never coming off lol so there's no pct.

 

[craigydar]

Lol idt I could get it prescribed. I'm never coming off lol so there's no pct.

So you could do a 12 wk tren cycle then cruise 12 weeks then bk on the tren lol
You'll turn into an animal

 

[Dr.Stri8ed]

So you could do a 12 wk tren cycle then cruise 12 weeks then bk on the tren lol
You'll turn into an animal

Lol yeah pretty much but I'm cruising after my show in April then gonna blast again in august.

 

[craigydar]

Lol yeah pretty much but I'm cruising after my show in April then gonna blast again in august.

Fair play , what you cruising on like 250mg ?
Think I'm going to keep cycling n getting bloods done until I reach trt .
I think tren be good when cutting to keep that muscle . Tried cutting last time n it was hard not to loose muscle .
Is that ur avi

 

[Dr.Stri8ed]

Fair play , what you cruising on like 250mg ?
Think I'm going to keep cycling n getting bloods done until I reach trt .
I think tren be good when cutting to keep that muscle . Tried cutting last time n it was hard not to loose muscle .
Is that ur avi

Yeah you'll b massive brah. Yeah that's my avi

 

[craigydar]

Ripped mate , fair play , how does your cutting an bulking work ? Do you do it on bodyfat goals or just bulk on tren lol ?

 

[Dr.Stri8ed]

Ripped mate , fair play , how does your cutting an bulking work ? Do you do it on bodyfat goals or just bulk on tren lol ?

Lol I do whatever I want with my diet depending on my goals. I don't use wet compounds really, so if I wanna bulk I tend to look tighter but if I'm cutting then I'll just get shredded.

 

[craigydar]

Lol I do whatever I want with my diet depending on my goals. I don't use wet compounds really, so if I wanna bulk I tend to look tighter but if I'm cutting then I'll just get shredded.

That's the worst advice loll
Bulk put fat on cut lose fat but tren must be involved

 

[Dr.Stri8ed]

That's the worst advice loll
Bulk put fat on cut lose fat but tren must be involved

Lol idk I just have really good genetics. My bf never gets high when I'm bulking especially on anabolics. So when I bulk I make sure I'm on cycle.

 

[craigydar]

Lol idk I just have really good genetics. My bf never gets high when I'm bulking especially on anabolics. So when I bulk I make sure I'm on cycle.

So you don't cut on cycle then , loosing muscle is a nightmare

 

[Dr.Stri8ed]

So you don't cut on cycle then , loosing muscle is a nightmare

I do but I have my diet so dialed in even off cycle that I don't lose muscle.

 

[craigydar]

I do but I have my diet so dialed in even off cycle that I don't lose muscle.

Well next cut I do will be maintenance calories , and add cardio every day . Maybe drop like deficit 200 cals .

 

[Dr.Stri8ed]

Well next cut I do will be maintenance calories , and add cardio every day . Maybe drop like deficit 200 cals .

That sounds good

 

[craigydar]

Starting the lean bulk


Caber dostinex pills 0.25 eod
Adex 0.25 eod
tren enanthate 600mg wk 1-12

Tri test 400mg wk 1-14

Dbol 50mg wk1-4

Proviron pills 50mg ed 1-14

Anything else needed let me know
Excited

 

[Matthersby]

Starting the lean bulk

Caber dostinex pills 0.25 eod
Adex 0.25 eod
tren enanthate 600mg wk 1-12

Tri test 400mg wk 1-14

Dbol 50mg wk1-4

Proviron pills 50mg ed 1-14

Anything else needed let me know
Excited

A+++

 

[Matthersby]

A+++

I want before/afters.
No homo of course

 

[Dr.Stri8ed]

Starting the lean bulk

Caber dostinex pills 0.25 eod
Adex 0.25 eod
tren enanthate 600mg wk 1-12

Tri test 400mg wk 1-14

Dbol 50mg wk1-4

Proviron pills 50mg ed 1-14

Anything else needed let me know
Excited

Looks good brah. Caber only has to b dosed e3d though cuz the half life is 3 days.

 

[craigydar]

Looks good brah. Caber only has to b dosed e3d though cuz the half life is 3 days.

Mon wend n Friday
Only thing us shall I use adex same dose or rely on the proviron for bloat / estrogen ?

 

[craigydar]

I want before/afters. No homo of course

Ha ha ok mate defo ... I'll get some front shots tomorrow .... Then half way through and at the end !! 4000 cals a day and I'm smashing the gym these days . I've out weight on already on this diet , can't wait to start the jabs