Building Rocket 2.0 with Follidrone 2.0

[brundel]

brundel does it also have a thermogenic effect, I swear I feel warmer most the time?

There is certainly fat loss increase from multiple angles.
Some great info here
http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/images/stories/PC_Ecklonia_Cava/PCEckloniaCava.pdf

 

[brundel]

brundel I am going to add in the Black Lion Research Viron today the label directions say (1) capsule daily, is it best to take with meals or on an empty stomach ?

I would take 2 per day unless your taking a beta blocker.
Otherwise 1 cap twice a day is my recommendation.
Empty stomach unless it causes stomach discomfort.

 

[Rocket3015]

I would take 2 per day unless your taking a beta blocker.
Otherwise 1 cap twice a day is my recommendation.
Empty stomach unless it causes stomach discomfort.

Thank you!

 

[thebigt]

looks like it is treating you well.

 

[Rocket3015]

looks like it is treating you well.

Yes I believe this is going to be a Must Have for me !!

 

[thebigt]

Yes I believe this is going to be a Must Have for me !!

looks like a nice step up from og!!!

 

[Rocket3015]

looks like a nice step up from og!!!

I still have a bottle of the original, I will soon see.

 

[Rocket3015]

Day 8 Weight 190 Black Lion Research Follidrone 2.0

I changed the dosing around today and added in the Viron
(2)Caps Follidrone 2.0 & (1) Cap Viron Pre-Workout, (1) Cap Each 1/2 hour before Lunch.

4 am Drink my Pre-Workout take My Follidrone 2.0 & Viron wait 1/2 an hour Go to gym (in the basement) begin workout. Training last about (1) hour

Today - Afternoon Cardio 45 minutes on the treadmill.

Todays Nutrition

Fat Grams 46
Carbs Grams 229
Protein Grams 116
Total Calories 1,807

 

[thebigt]

Day 8 Weight 190 Black Lion Research Follidrone 2.0

I changed the dosing around today and added in the Viron
(2)Caps Follidrone 2.0 & (1) Cap Viron Pre-Workout, (1) Cap Each 1/2 hour before Lunch.

4 am Drink my Pre-Workout take My Follidrone 2.0 & Viron wait 1/2 an hour Go to gym (in the basement) begin workout. Training last about (1) hour

Today - Afternoon Cardio 45 minutes on the treadmill.

Todays Nutrition

Fat Grams 46
Carbs Grams 229
Protein Grams 116
Total Calories 1,807

you on cut or recomp?

 

[Rocket3015]

My goal is to get down to 180....10 more pounds !!

 

[thebigt]

My goal is to get down to 180....10 more pounds !!

you stick to those cals and should be no problem. especially with you being in the gym so often and throwing tires around at work all day.

 

[Rocket3015]

Day 9 Weight 190 Black Lion Research Follidrone 2.0

(2)Caps Follidrone 2.0 & (1) Cap Viron Pre-Workout, (1) Cap Each 1/2 hour before Lunch.

4 am Drink my Pre-Workout take My Follidrone 2.0 & Viron wait 1/2 an hour Go to gym (in the basement) begin workout. Training last about (1) hour

Today - Chest and Tri's - All Movements Superset

Incline Fly's (1) 10x10 (2) 15x10 (3) 20x10
Pressdowns (1) 40x15 (2) 50x15 (3) 60x15 (4) 70x12 (5) 80x8

Flat Bench Press (1) 95x15 (2) 115x15 (3) 135x12 (4) 155x8

Decline Bench (1) 135x10 (2) 155x8 (3) 175x6
Machine Dips (1) 50x15 (2) 70x15 (3) 90x15 (4) 110x12 (5) 130x6

Oblique Crunch - Broomstick Twist

Breakfast - Shower - Off To Work

Todays Nutrition

Fat Grams 68
Carbs Grams 190
Protein Grams 205
Total Calories 2,198

My chest was pumped after this work out, I think I still have a pump 14 hours later!!!

 

[Rocket3015]

Day 10 Weight 190 Black Lion Research Follidrone 2.0

(2)Caps Follidrone 2.0 & (1) Cap Viron Pre-Workout, (1) Cap Each 1/2 hour before Lunch.

4 am Drink my Pre-Workout take My Follidrone 2.0 & Viron wait 1/2 an hour Go to gym (in the basement) begin workout. Training last about (1) hour

Today - Back & Bi's - All Movements Superset

Wide Grip Pulldowns (1) 100x15 (2) 110x15 (3) 120x12 (4) 130x10 (5) 140x8
Curl (in squat rack) (1) 45x15 92) 50x12 (3) 55x10 (4) 60x8 (5) 65x6

T-Bar Row (1) 70x20 (2) 80x18 (3) 90x15 (4) 100x10 (5) 110x10
Hammer Curl (tricep bar) (1) 50x8 (2) 50x6 (3) 50x5 (4) 50x5 (5) 50x8

Planks

Breakfast - Shower - Off To Work

Todays Nutrition

Fat Grams 58
Carbs Grams 169
Protein Grams 195
Total Calories 1,983

Not sure what is was yesterday but I was holding so much water last night and this morning, it was hard to hold the bar my fingers felt like bratwurst!! But things are much better now.

 

[Cjg]

Just ordered 2 more bottles of Follidrone... Noticing some nice things at 4 a day!! Also notice the finger nail remover smell in the bottle has gone away.. It smells like birthday cake now or some sweet candy lol

 

[ELROCK]

Subbed!!!

 

[Rocket3015]

The DOMS on this is crazy, I have not been this sore in years..........and I like it !!!

 

[paul56778]

I'm having the opposite no doms or soreness even after performing more reps with more weight and completely changing the days i train body parts on.

 

[Rocket3015]

I'm having the opposite no doms or soreness even after performing more reps with more weight and completely changing the days i train body parts on.

I think I am train harder, but just goes to show we all respond differently !!

 

[Rocket3015]

Day 11 Weight 190 Black Lion Research Follidrone 2.0

(2)Caps Follidrone 2.0 & (1) Cap Viron Pre-Workout, (1) Cap Each 1/2 hour before Lunch.

4 am Drink my Pre-Workout take My Follidrone 2.0 & Viron wait 1/2 an hour Go to gym (in the basement) begin workout. Training last about (1) hour

Today - Am Fasted Cardio 45 minutes on the Treadmill and some Ab work.

Breakfast - Shower - Off To Work

Todays Nutrition

Fat Grams 56
Carbs Grams 101
Protein Grams 191
Total Calories 1,643

I am definitely looking leaner, my weight has not moved this week but for some reason I am holding a lot of water. We will get the scale moving again!!

 

[Cjg]

Taking a e blocker? Could be the viron

 

[Rocket3015]

Taking a e blocker? Could be the viron

Yes I am using an e-blocker, I think I got it figured out...

 

[brundel]

Yes I am using an e-blocker, I think I got it figured out...

Yes many guys need an ai with viron. I doubted it when i first heard people complaining of gyno symptoms and estro sides but...its real man. The increase in test combined with the reduction in shbg raises estro. May need a light ai. Got anything on hand?

 

[Rocket3015]

Yes many guys need an ai with viron. I doubted it when i first heard people complaining of gyno symptoms and estro sides but...its real man. The increase in test combined with the reduction in shbg raises estro. May need a light ai. Got anything on hand?

Yes I got some will add it in !!

 

[mmorso]

I just ordered some follidrone to run with the PA I'm currently taking. Do you take any Hmb or bcaas when doing am training fasted?

 

[thebigt]

Day 11 Weight 190 Black Lion Research Follidrone 2.0

(2)Caps Follidrone 2.0 & (1) Cap Viron Pre-Workout, (1) Cap Each 1/2 hour before Lunch.

4 am Drink my Pre-Workout take My Follidrone 2.0 & Viron wait 1/2 an hour Go to gym (in the basement) begin workout. Training last about (1) hour

Today - Am Fasted Cardio 45 minutes on the Treadmill and some Ab work.

Breakfast - Shower - Off To Work

Todays Nutrition

Fat Grams 56
Carbs Grams 101
Protein Grams 191
Total Calories 1,643

I am definitely looking leaner, my weight has not moved this week but for some reason I am holding a lot of water. We will get the scale moving again!!

holding water while still looking leaner is quite a feat!!! get the water out and you should look ripped!!!

 

[Rocket3015]

holding water while still looking leaner is quite a feat!!! get the water out and you should look ripped!!!

Pants are getting loose also !

 

[Rocket3015]

Day 12 Weight 190 Black Lion Research Follidrone 2.0

(2)Caps Follidrone 2.0 & (1) Cap Viron Pre-Workout, (1) Cap Each 1/2 hour before Lunch.

4 am Drink my Pre-Workout take My Follidrone 2.0 & Viron wait 1/2 an hour Go to gym (in the basement) begin workout. Training last about (1) hour

Today - Legs - First (5) Set, Tri Sets Next (3) Superset

Leg Extensions (1) 25x15 (2) 25x15 (3) 25x15
Standing Leg Curl (1) 30x15 (2) 35x15 (3) 40x15 (4) 45x15 (5) 50x15
Seated Calf Raise (1) 50x15 (2) 50x15 (3) 50x15 (4) 50x15 (5) 50x15

Hyperextensions

Squat (1) 95x20 (2) 95x20 (3) 95x20 (4) 95x20 (5) 95x20
Standing Calf Raise (1) 135x15 (2) 135x15 (3) 135x15

This workout today seamed more like a HIT Cardio Session than a weight workout, I was breathing heavy !!

Breakfast - Shower - Off To Work

Todays Nutrition

Fat Grams 73
Carbs Grams 153
Protein Grams 201
Total Calories 2,075

The Follidrone 2.0 is treating me well, jeans are looser, abs, tighter and I am feeling GREAT !!

 

[smith_69]

Day 12 Weight 190 Black Lion Research Follidrone 2.0

(2)Caps Follidrone 2.0 & (1) Cap Viron Pre-Workout, (1) Cap Each 1/2 hour before Lunch.

4 am Drink my Pre-Workout take My Follidrone 2.0 & Viron wait 1/2 an hour Go to gym (in the basement) begin workout. Training last about (1) hour

Today - Legs - First (5) Set, Tri Sets Next (3) Superset

Leg Extensions (1) 25x15 (2) 25x15 (3) 25x15
Standing Leg Curl (1) 30x15 (2) 35x15 (3) 40x15 (4) 45x15 (5) 50x15
Seated Calf Raise (1) 50x15 (2) 50x15 (3) 50x15 (4) 50x15 (5) 50x15

Hyperextensions

Squat (1) 95x20 (2) 95x20 (3) 95x20 (4) 95x20 (5) 95x20
Standing Calf Raise (1) 135x15 (2) 135x15 (3) 135x15

This workout today seamed more like a HIT Cardio Session than a weight workout, I was breathing heavy !!

Breakfast - Shower - Off To Work

Todays Nutrition

Fat Grams 73
Carbs Grams 153
Protein Grams 201
Total Calories 2,075

The Follidrone 2.0 is treating me well, jeans are looser, abs, tighter and I am feeling GREAT !!

Hey Rocket

looking good, are you still training in a fasted state during this or switching off. Im catching up a bit late here

 

[Rocket3015]

I always train fasted..Have for 20 years.

 

[smith_69]

I always train fasted..Have for 20 years.

well, Im really f*cking late lmao

 

[Rocket3015]

well, Im really f*cking late lmao

I'm just glad you are here !!!

 

[paul56778]

Good progress with FD2.0 keep it up :biggthumpup:

 

[Rocket3015]

I am happy with what the mirror tells me, I wish I could get the scale to more a bit more !!!

 

[paul56778]

Scales can be deceiving at times, the mirror does not lie.

 

[vujade]

Scales can be deceiving at times, the mirror does not lie.

Thats why I also like to take measurements in addition to weighing myself weekly.

The scale does not always give the big picture

 

[Piston Honda]

Got 2 bottles of 2.0 and Letrone I'm gonna run real soon myself. Been meaning for a while to check this log out. Sounds like it's the real deal up in here!

 

[Rocket3015]

Got 2 bottles of 2.0 and Letrone I'm gonna run real soon myself. Been meaning for a while to check this log out. Sounds like it's the real deal up in here!

I am enjoying it !!

 

[LeanEngineer]

I am enjoying it !!

Awesome! I may grab me two bottles here soon and try it out!

 

[Rocket3015]

Awesome! I may grab me two bottles here soon and try it out!

I believe TGB has a deal on it right now, This might help !!

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Use vujade5 to Save 5% off your order up to $149
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[Rocket3015]

Day 13 Weight 190 Black Lion Research Follidrone 2.0

(2)Caps Follidrone 2.0 & (1) Cap Viron Pre-Workout, (1) Cap Each 1/2 hour before Lunch.

4 am Drink my Pre-Workout take My Follidrone 2.0 & Viron wait 1/2 an hour Go to gym (in the basement) begin workout. Training last about (1) hour

Today - AM Fasted Cardio, Treadmill 45 Minutes and some Oblique Work

Breakfast - Shower - Off To Work

Todays Nutrition

Fat Grams 75
Carbs Grams 164
Protein Grams 194
Total Calories 2,092

 

[Rocket3015]

Today I am going to add in the Black Lion Research Prolactrone brundel what is the best way for me to dose this ?

 

[vujade]

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Thanks ROCKET......we sure do..!!!

http://www.tgbsupplements.com/product/black-lion-research-follidrone-2-0-combo-pack-pre-sale/

 

[vujade]

Today I am going to add in the Black Lion Research Prolactrone brundel what is the best way for me to dose this ?

This is a quote from brundel on the Prolactrone thread....

Start with 1 daily with food. Makes me nauseated sometimes without it.
You can go up to 3 daily.
I like to take 2 before bed or with my last meal because it gives me super vivid Dreams.
So, take with food. If once a day take with your last meal.

 

[Rocket3015]

Day 14 Weight 190 Black Lion Research Follidrone 2.0

(2)Caps Follidrone 2.0 & (1) Cap Viron Pre-Workout, (1) Cap Each 1/2 hour before Lunch.

4 am Drink my Pre-Workout take My Follidrone 2.0 & Viron wait 1/2 an hour Go to gym (in the basement) begin workout. Training last about (1) hour

Today - Shoulders - Traps & Neck

Machine Press (1) 50x15-15 (2) 60x15-15 (3) 70x15-12 (4) 80x15-10 (5) 90x12-10
I did this movement in a superset style sit down facing the chair pad, do as many reps as I can, turn around with no rest and go to failure
Bent Over Rear Lateral Raises (1) 15x15 (2) 20x15 (3) 25x15 (4) 30x15 (5) 35x12 - Superset or Triset with above movement

Barbell Shrugs (1) 135x40 (2) 135x40 (3) 185x25 (4) 225x15 (5) 225x15
BFS Neck Machine (1) 10x40 (2) 15x40 (3) 20x40 (4) 22.5x40 (5) 25x40 - Superset with above movement

Breakfast - Shower - Off To Work

Off work at 1pm today and it's raining so I headed to Planet Fitness for 35 Minutes on the Elliptical and some Ab Work

Todays Nutrition

Fat Grams 97
Carbs Grams 178
Protein Grams 228
Total Calories 2,455

The BM problems I had the first week seam to have gone away and things in that department are back to normal. Continuing to lean out and I am enjoying this supplement very much !!

 

[enhanced]

This supplement has been incredibly awesome! I'm getting more!

 

[Cjg]

brundel are these side effects of any concern with Follidrone 2.0?
Carthamus tinctorius side effects and contraindications

Clinically misuse of carthamus tinctorius flower may lead to toxic reactions, mainly including abdominal discomfort, abdominal pain, diarrhea, or even gastrointestinal bleeding, cramping, and menorrhagia in women, are closely related to its intestinal and uterine stimulant effect. When poisoning occurs, some may be in a confused state of mind, weary, and with tremors, convulsions in severe cases, respiratory inhibition after the first excitement, even circulatory, respiratory failure, or dizziness, rash and a transient hives in few patients. The above-mentioned symptoms are closely related to its excitation and allergic reactions on the nervous system. The reasons for the poisoning are twofold. One is misuse and the other is overdose. As a result, it shouldn’t be used during pregnancy and use it with care in the cases of peptic ulcer disease and bleeding disorders.

 

[brundel]

Today I am going to add in the Black Lion Research Prolactrone brundel what is the best way for me to dose this ?

Start with 1 cap per day with food.
Bump up to 1 cap twice a day with food.
If you take a multivitamin or anything with b6 in it make sure to take them as far apart as possible.

 

[jt75]

Is fish oil and multi vits ok to dose along with FD2 or a bit further apart?

 

[brundel]

brundel are these side effects of any concern with Follidrone 2.0?
Carthamus tinctorius side effects and contraindications

Clinically misuse of carthamus tinctorius flower may lead to toxic reactions, mainly including abdominal discomfort, abdominal pain, diarrhea, or even gastrointestinal bleeding, cramping, and menorrhagia in women, are closely related to its intestinal and uterine stimulant effect. When poisoning occurs, some may be in a confused state of mind, weary, and with tremors, convulsions in severe cases, respiratory inhibition after the first excitement, even circulatory, respiratory failure, or dizziness, rash and a transient hives in few patients. The above-mentioned symptoms are closely related to its excitation and allergic reactions on the nervous system. The reasons for the poisoning are twofold. One is misuse and the other is overdose. As a result, it shouldn’t be used during pregnancy and use it with care in the cases of peptic ulcer disease and bleeding disorders.

="An in vivo study of the acute toxicity of carthamus red showed no toxicity and mortality for doses of up to 2000 mg/kg"

Generally speaking side effects occur at super high doses. Like 200mg/kg and above.
This means 40 grams or 40000mg for a 200lb man.
There is about 100mg per capsule in FD2

But frankly if you ate 40g of MANY otc herbal extracts you would likely die or be hospitalized.
At doses used there shouldnt be any issues.

Also keep in mind that safflower is WIDELY used in food. People eat tons of it every day with no issues.
Even a strong extract wouldnt likely cause any problems until we got to super high doses.

 

[brundel]

Is fish oil and multi vits ok to dose along with FD2 or a bit further apart?

Both are fine with FD2