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What are some ways to build side delts for size ?
and it will also hurt your rotator cuff muscles. the upright row is horrible. just like behind the neck presses/pulldowns.not that i have huge shoulders but how about an upright row with constant tension kept on the side delt.
It's not that bad if you use a wide grip and only go up to your sternum/when your upper arms are parallel to the floor.and it will also hurt your rotator cuff muscles. the upright row is horrible. just like behind the neck presses/pulldowns.
first cool to see your from san antonio, im in austin. But if i could give you some advice, if your going for hypertophy or strength i dont understand starting with a weight you can do more than ten times and ending on that same weight? you should pyramid up, or start initially with a heavier weight.I have an inherent weakness that I cannot seem to overcome. I cannot maintain strength from set to set and strength drops drastically between sets so I try to get the most out of my first and second sets. For example, I can do 10 reps with couple of reps in the tank, rest 90 seconds, second set I may or may not get 10 reps, rest 90, third set I would hardly get 5-6 reps. Also when I deload, strength goes down and it is a struggle to rebuild it back up.
I dont know how people go to their chins....yes sternum or nipples is about as far as i can go without the movement feeling dangerous. I find it quite effective to go wide grip upright rows with a barbell follwed by a close grip dropset using a plate (if the plates have handles designed into them.)Yes, lower sternum. But most people row up to their chins...which mimics the movement physical therapists use to test for supraspinatus impingement - smart, really smart.
Br
Yes it can be bad but usually is due to bad form/too much weight,and it will also hurt your rotator cuff muscles. the upright row is horrible. just like behind the neck presses/pulldowns.
I've done that. I used to pyramid down but now trying new approach for few weeks.first cool to see your from san antonio, im in austin. But if i could give you some advice, if your going for hypertophy or strength i dont understand starting with a weight you can do more than ten times and ending on that same weight? you should pyramid up, or start initially with a heavier weight.
Not as much external rotation, but you're still going to cause impingement and un-needed wear bringing the dumbbells as high as that guy was in the video.Yes it can be bad but usually is due to bad form/too much weight,
but yes, even with good form and everything it can be risky.
A great alternative is to do one arm DB upright rows, very effective exercise.
Agree, he brings it way too high, I forgot to mention that.Not as much external rotation, but you're still going to cause impingement and un-needed wear bringing the dumbbells as high as that guy was in the video.
Br
^^^ THIS ^^^21's w/ side lateral raises
7 low raises (waist area to under chest area)
7 high raises (chest area and higher)
7 full range raises
ouch! sounds painful. you are hammering your bones against each other while doing that. if you want to hit the sides drop your elbows, point your thumbs up and lean forward. your front will still get hit, but you will not damage your shoulders in the process.....& do my side laterals like with pinky higher than my thumb like pouring a bottle
As someone with shoulder issues, I have NEVER even sensed ANY level of friction/discomfort/etc doing what stryg does. Dropping elbows AND pointing thumbs up will not target lateral delts, and may remove them. The exception is if you are leaning over on a bench parallel to the floor.ouch! sounds painful. you are hammering your bones against each other while doing that. if you want to hit the sides drop your elbows, point your thumbs up and lean forward. your front will still get hit, but you will not damage your shoulders in the process.
i see doing side raises that way just like upright rows, behind the neck anything, and leg presses. many people do them. some have no issues at all but there is too great of a chance of injury so i still wont do them. there are safer exercises that will still get me the same if not better results. many people disagree with me on that but i still wont do them and i will still get stronger and bigger.As someone with shoulder issues, I have NEVER even sensed ANY level of friction/discomfort/etc doing what stryg does. Dropping elbows AND pointing thumbs up will not target lateral delts, and may remove them. The exception is if you are leaning over on a bench parallel to the floor.
This is true, often because they get so much front delt work on chest exercises, neglect the rotator cuff complex and rear delts. Adding more front delt work will only cause further imbalance in the shoulders and rotate them foward. You end up having forward shoulders and poor posture. I'am a big fan of working the "rear" much more than the front of the body. Gravity is always bringing us down and forward so we need to build up strength in the muscles that keep us upright. When the shoulder are aligned properly the chest looks much bigger, it's more flexible and able to push more weight. Guys obsess about a big chest but don't realize what they think will make it look bigger is actually making it look smaller.I read somewhere that majority of bodybuilders have over developed front delts
Well said. Straighter, bigger back equals bigger chest, bigger tri's equal bigger arms... From an aesthetic outlookThis is true, often because they get so much front delt work on chest exercises, neglect the rotator cuff complex and rear delts. Adding more front delt work will only cause further imbalance in the shoulders and rotate them foward. You end up having forward shoulders and poor posture. I'am a big fan of working the "rear" much more than the front of the body. Gravity is always bringing us down and forward so we need to build up strength in the muscles that keep us upright. When the shoulder are aligned properly the chest looks much bigger, it's more flexible and able to push more weight. Guys obsess about a big chest but don't realize what they think will make it look bigger is actually making it look smaller.
I would agree with thatand it will also hurt your rotator cuff muscles. the upright row is horrible. just like behind the neck presses/pulldowns.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AoZXEsMYGY&feature=youtube_gdata_playerYes, lower sternum. But most people row up to their chins...which mimics the movement physical therapists use to test for supraspinatus impingement - smart, really smart.
Br
Speaking of the supraspinatus, what would be the best course of action for impingement? I've been thinking recently that I may have an impingement or be flirting close to it.Yes, lower sternum. But most people row up to their chins...which mimics the movement physical therapists use to test for supraspinatus impingement - smart, really smart.
Br