This seems like some impressive stuff! Gained muscle in a cutting phase? It's a Christmas Miracle!
Awesome man! I think you'll love the addition. A little improved sleep, muscle fullness, accelerated recovery, etc etc etc never hurt anybody!Am actually buying a bottle tomorrow. And will add it to my bulk run that I already have a log running for
In contest prep at that coming up on 11 weeks out and still not below my starting weightThis seems like some impressive stuff! Gained muscle in a cutting phase? It's a Christmas Miracle!
Yeah still at 12.5mg, was planning on running it that way for a full 60 days. If Mike would prefer I increase the dose I'd do it though.You still dosing 12.5mg? Have you tried 25?
You run mk677 for one year straight? What did you notice from it?Yeah still at 12.5mg, was planning on running it that way for a full 60 days. If Mike would prefer I increase the dose I'd do it though.
I've done 20 and 30mg doses in the past, part of when I ran MK for over a full year. Honestly didn't do much more for me than 10mg.
About the same type of things that people report from GH use: improved sleep/recovery, muscle fullness, hunger, fat loss, etcYou run mk677 for one year straight? What did you notice from it?
I got A bottle of Somatozine I'm not sure how to run it I know 5mg of melatonin usually gives me mad lethargy. I want to get the most bulk gains off it.About the same type of things that people report from GH use: improved sleep/recovery, muscle fullness, hunger, fat loss, etc
Try it at one cap!I got A bottle of Somatozine I'm not sure how to run it I know 5mg of melatonin usually gives me mad lethargy. I want to get the most bulk gains off it.
You should stop hitting those brick walls they hurt. LolFirst 25mg dose was last night as planned. Woke up this morning feeling like I got whacked by a brick wall. Could barely get up at 8:30 to train at 10. Once I was up and moving I was good to go though.
Also, AMAZING back workout. The pump was stupid, endurance great and was able to push past "failure" on most exercises. Feeling good!
215.4lbs again this morning.
Trying! They come out of nowhere!You should stop hitting those brick walls they hurt. Lol
Might be because of the 5mg of melatonin. I know if i take that much melatonin it really plays with my lethargy the next day.Trying! They come out of nowhere!
It's my own fault, I had a really long and busy day yesterday and then didn't fall asleep until probably 2:30am.
5.5 hours sleep is not enough for me especially when I'm exhausted.
Many studies that have been conducted say that 5mg boosts GH although some other studies say that it's overdosing melatonin.Should make a version with no melatonin I feel like 5mg is way to much as well....
Well the waking up tired is the problem.....Many studies that have been conducted say that 5mg boosts GH although some other studies say that it's overdosing melatonin.
You can't really overdose on melatonin because they have given up to 100mg of melatonin to someone and they just went to sleep and woke up feeling tired.
Yeah it makes you feel lethargic af and your body doesn't really get used to it at least mine doesn't when I was 17 tho I used to be able to pop like 9mg and feel ready to go the next day. I agree with the melatonin free version although might be better to go 1mg per pillWell the waking up tired is the problem.....
I have taken melatonin in the past but only 1.5 mg and worked wonderfully..... thinking the morning lethargy is from the 5mg...... I'll see if it settles out Tonight will be my 3rd Dose
5 mg was found to be optimal for increasing GH levels, which is why that dose is included in Somatozine.Many studies that have been conducted say that 5mg boosts GH although some other studies say that it's overdosing melatonin.
You can't really overdose on melatonin because they have given up to 100mg of melatonin to someone and they just went to sleep and woke up feeling tired.
I saw those studies too and the product is working great I'm loving the product I'm on day 2 1pill before bed. How'd you like the 2 caps BamBam0319? I'm wondering if you could increase stims in order to combat lethargy?5 mg was found to be optimal for increasing GH levels, which is why that dose is included in Somatozine.
2 caps is the most cost-effective dose, but some people opt to start at 1 cap, or even stick with 1 cap.I saw those studies too and the product is working great I'm loving the product I'm on day 2 1pill before bed. How'd you like the 2 caps BamBam0319? I'm wondering if you could increase stims in order to combat lethargy?
Today will be day 3 for me. After the first week. I'm gonna bump to 2 caps, but so far so good.2 caps is the most cost-effective dose, but some people opt to start at 1 cap, or even stick with 1 cap.
You could use stims to combat that, but keep in mind that it does go away after a while on its own.
Same here.Today will be day 3 for me. After the first week. I'm gonna bump to 2 caps, but so far so good.
I saw those studies too and the product is working great I'm loving the product I'm on day 2 1pill before bed. How'd you like the 2 caps BamBam0319? I'm wondering if you could increase stims in order to combat lethargy?
First 25mg dose was last night as planned. Woke up this morning feeling like I got whacked by a brick wall. Could barely get up at 8:30 to train at 10. Once I was up and moving I was good to go though.
Also, AMAZING back workout. The pump was stupid, endurance great and was able to push past "failure" on most exercises. Feeling good!
215.4lbs again this morning.
These two posts detail my only two 25mg doses so far. Seems my grogginess the morning after first dosing was just because of sleep debt.Well, last night was my second 25mg dose and this morning wasn't as bad. Really thinking it was just exhaustion from the previous day.
Weight is 216.6, +1.2 from yesterday.
Sorry I didn't see that post man and ok cool I'll crank to two pills tonight. I don't really feel much other than muscle fullness and a bit of hunger. It's nothing crazy.These two posts detail my only two 25mg doses so far. Seems my grogginess the morning after first dosing was just because of sleep debt.
No lethargy here. I'm energetic all damn day, stims or none.
See, I feel the muscle fullness, but not feeling the hungerSorry I didn't see that post man and ok cool I'll crank to two pills tonight. I don't really feel much other than muscle fullness and a bit of hunger. It's nothing crazy.
On fourth day of 2 pills before bed and hunger is insane!!! Hard to curb actually.... trying to stay at 100cal surplus but it's hardSee, I feel the muscle fullness, but not feeling the hunger
In my experience with MK, there isn't going to be much more that you "feel." Hopefully you're getting the deeper sleep benefit though.Sorry I didn't see that post man and ok cool I'll crank to two pills tonight. I don't really feel much other than muscle fullness and a bit of hunger. It's nothing crazy.
I thought you asked this already, actually. Haha I could be wrong though. Someone asked, and Mike chimed in that huperzine doesn't actually have any synergistic effect with MK-677. He said his product is called Somatozine because it originally contained huperzine until he said the research.Not sure if you have gotten asked this but have you considered taking huperzine to inhibit somatostatin?
Ok my bad I think he did thanks for reminding me haha.I thought you asked this already, actually. Haha I could be wrong though. Someone asked, and Mike chimed in that huperzine doesn't actually have any synergistic effect with MK-677. He said his product is called Somatozine because it originally contained huperzine until he said the research.
No worries bro!Ok my bad I think he did thanks for reminding me haha.
This x1000 amazing product Mikearnold as well as the muscle fullness did you find you had to get used to the 5mg melatonin at first bam?Still going well here, y'all! 216.6lbs this morning so still hovering in the same range. Looking leaner and harder, with sick pumps every time I'm in the gym, and fullness anytime I'm not.
"I've been sleeping like a baby and waking up ready to kill sh*t!"
No not really, like I said before, the fatigue/lack of sleep was to blame for my lethargy the first night after bumping my dose up to two caps. Past that everything has been fine and it's been easier for me to avoid sleeping in.This x1000 amazing product Mikearnold as well as the muscle fullness did you find you had to get used to the 5mg melatonin at first bam?
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No. Only on the Somatozine.What about that vicaine pm?? Does the 30% work on that? I tried to pm you your box is full
Bump for answersMike, what are your thoughts on using this in conjunction with real GH? Can't remember if you've been asked this before.
It works very well. Many guys do. I personally know dozens. Even National level bodybuilders and some pros do it as well...because it is MUCH less expensive to use 25 mg of Somatozine and 3 iu of GH per day than it is to use 7 iu of GH.Mike, what are your thoughts on using this in conjunction with real GH? Can't remember if you've been asked this before.