ATTN: Users of PES AnaBeta and those interested in AnaBeta

[Max32]

very interested in this during PCT... one of those that sounds too good to be true, hoping it is not...

 

[ryansm]

Can this be taken during PCT?

Yes

 

[nattydisaster]

Can this be taken during PCT?

Actually had a guy who took it in PCT and said it was his best PCT ever...almost like he was still "on"

 

[Milas]

Can this be taken during PCT?

very interested in this during PCT... one of those that sounds too good to be true, hoping it is not...

Yes

Actually had a guy who took it in PCT and said it was his best PCT ever...almost like he was still "on"

Sign me up!

 

[Hawk]

Actually had a guy who took it in PCT and said it was his best PCT ever...almost like he was still "on"

Did this particular gentleman run a log here?

 

[nattydisaster]

He is a member here but did not feel like keeping a log. He may read this and provide his feedback. I will shoot a PM

You all know him

 

[fightbackhxc]

I would see how that statement would be valid. Keeping calories up high in PCT would make this a great addition to any PCT.

 

[T50]

Any ETA for it's release? I want to try this sooo badly!

 

[TheKanezzi]

I really want to try this out, what a versatile product! Natty, does this need to be cycled?

 

[JoHNnyNuTZ]

Awesome. I want this for my next PCT...be out by june please!!!Ok how about august

 

[nattydisaster]

I really want to try this out, what a versatile product! Natty, does this need to be cycled?

I think every ergogenic supplement should be cycled except essential vitamins and aminos.

But you could run it for a long time

 

[TheKanezzi]

I think every ergogenic supplement should be cycled except essential vitamins and aminos.

But you could run it for a long time

In that case I would like the opportunity to log this product for 2 years!?!?!

:veryhappy:

 

[Mr.50]

guys I beleive I was the mysterious tester that Natty was referring to a few posts above who ran this in PCT. I have to say that he is completely correct.... with the ana-beta (4 caps per day, both with and without food didnt seem to make a diff) I had th ebest PCT I have run ever. Only other PCT stuff was staples and clomid (standard for me, very mild 4 week oral cycle). I had body fat tested the last day of the cycle by caliper 7 skin fold measurement (same person who always tests me). And repeated 2.5 weeks into PCT. Between the first measurement and the second there was no increase in body fat (maybe slight decrease but not statistically significant). Strength and aerobic/anaerobic fitness did not decrease at all. Libido came back strongly. Not sure if it was from the ana-beta, the clomid, or general decrease in stresses from intense training. Overall though it was a seemless transition from "on" to "pct" to "off". Great product in my opinion. Continued to give me the "fullness" feeling like being on during PCT.

Because of another situation that came up I was unble to continue past the 2.5 week mark. I apologize that the test duration was so short but it was something beyond my control.

I would like to thank Natty and PES. I also love Shift. I will be purchasing some ana-beta as soon as its available and greatly interested in finding out its components.

Mr.50

 

[jtterrible]

Natty is awesome in the first place ..reflects his company as well can't wait for anabeta to release.. Any thoughts on cost yet?

 

[Milas]

Damn, now I'm going to have to explain to the wife why I'm back to buying supplements when this goes on sale...

 

[nattydisaster]

guys I beleive I was the mysterious tester that Natty was referring to a few posts above who ran this in PCT. I have to say that he is completely correct.... with the ana-beta (4 caps per day, both with and without food didnt seem to make a diff) I had th ebest PCT I have run ever. Only other PCT stuff was staples and clomid (standard for me, very mild 4 week oral cycle). I had body fat tested the last day of the cycle by caliper 7 skin fold measurement (same person who always tests me). And repeated 2.5 weeks into PCT. Between the first measurement and the second there was no increase in body fat (maybe slight decrease but not statistically significant). Strength and aerobic/anaerobic fitness did not decrease at all. Libido came back strongly. Not sure if it was from the ana-beta, the clomid, or general decrease in stresses from intense training. Overall though it was a seemless transition from "on" to "pct" to "off". Great product in my opinion. Continued to give me the "fullness" feeling like being on during PCT.

Because of another situation that came up I was unble to continue past the 2.5 week mark. I apologize that the test duration was so short but it was something beyond my control.

I would like to thank Natty and PES. I also love Shift. I will be purchasing some ana-beta as soon as its available and greatly interested in finding out its components.

Mr.50

There you have it!

Natty is awesome in the first place ..reflects his company as well can't wait for anabeta to release.. Any thoughts on cost yet?

Very affordable...crazy affordable on the first release. But there will be a limit of bottles per account on NP at the start up cost. This is just to make sure there is enough to go around and no one buys it all

Damn, now I'm going to have to explain to the wife why I'm back to buying supplements when this goes on sale...

hahaha

 

[Rosie Chee]

guys I beleive I was the mysterious tester that Natty was referring to a few posts above who ran this in PCT...Because of another situation that came up I was unble to continue past the 2.5 week mark. I apologize that the test duration was so short...

Nothing wrong with the shorter period of use - mine was only ~2 weeks, but it was definitely enough to notice, see and feel the difference!

Natty is awesome in the first place ..reflects his company as well can't wait for anabeta to release.. Any thoughts on cost yet?

It will "match" the rest of the PES line-up re price - quality that you can rely on for beyond a reasonable price!

Damn, now I'm going to have to explain to the wife why I'm back to buying supplements when this goes on sale...

You don't buy supplements now? She has a problem with it?

~Rosie~

 

[schizm]

I forgot to add that DOMS have been much more intense lately over the first day or two post training, however overall recovery is much quicker.

this is good to know....I actually have been experiencing slightly prolonged/intense DOMS since starting as well...but didn't quite know if it was the AnaBeta...or just having a deload week, then coming back in full swing the week I started it...or a combo of both...still gaging it and keeping in the back of my mind as I continue....'Heeey, badda-no-badda-no-badda-saaaa-wing, badda'

 

[Milas]

Very affordable...crazy affordable on the first release. But there will be a limit of bottles per account on NP at the start up cost. This is just to make sure there is enough to go around and no one buys it all

What if I get a few other folks to "donate" their allotment?

You don't buy supplements now? She has a problem with it?

No, I buy stuff, I just catch hell on how much I'm spending on that versus saving for this, that, or my 4yr old son's college. I just calmly explain he'll be a D1 athlete and have his choice of full-ride scholarships, and then take care of us financially when he goes pro!

 

[Rosie Chee]

No, I buy stuff, I just catch hell on how much I'm spending on that versus saving for this, that, or my 4yr old son's college. I just calmly explain he'll be a D1 athlete and have his choice of full-ride scholarships, and then take care of us financially when he goes pro!

Gotcha

 

[Robboe]

You folks revealed what this is yet?

 

[Rosie Chee]

You folks revealed what this is yet?

Nope. On product release all information will be revealed.

~Rosie~

 

[Robboe]

Nope. On product release all information will be revealed.

~Rosie~

Pffft... Didn't want to know anyway...

 

[bdcc]

Natty gave me the product information via email.

I will disclose it to anyone who sends me $50 via paypal.

 

[fightbackhxc]

if i buy it again im gonna run at a higher dose. PES products are usually so affordable that doing so is not a big deal.

 

[jwa254]

Any idea if this will be out by the end of the month?

 

[Rosie Chee]

Any idea if this will be out by the end of the month?

Not likely - we are looking at a mid-summer release, closer to July.

~Rosie~

 

[Max32]

Not likely - we are looking at a mid-summer release, closer to July.

~Rosie~

Damn, wanted to use some during this pct

 

[AZMIDLYF]

Not likely - we are looking at a mid-summer release, closer to July.

~Rosie~

Should hit my PCT perfectly!:yup:

 

[Milas]

Not likely - we are looking at a mid-summer release, closer to July.

~Rosie~

:sadpanda:

Still, looking forward to learning more about it! Any more info going to be released before the actual product?

 

[Rosie Chee]

:sadpanda:

Still, looking forward to learning more about it! Any more info going to be released before the actual product?

Either just prior to the product release or with the product release. Josh can comment more if he wants.

~Rosie~

 

[nattydisaster]

:sadpanda:

Still, looking forward to learning more about it! Any more info going to be released before the actual product?

I am doing the writeup now...although it will take some time to finish.

I will release a summarized but informative writeup when it is done.

Lots to do today :yup:

 

[schizm]

I am doing the writeup now...although it will take some time to finish.

I will release a summarized but informative writeup when it is done.

Lots to do today :yup:

Pop some ALCAR and g-g-giddy up man!

Very much looking forward to ANY info about it....even the official name...? hmm?

 

[schizm]

AnaBeta bumpy-bump....just because: Anabeta

 

[T-Bone]

Does Anabeta has to be used in conjunction with carbohydrates? Could it be used on something like the anabolic diet?

Only take it on your carb up. If you take it without carbs you may pass out or ruin your low carb portion of the diet.

 

[JudgementDay]

Really looking forward to this one, all PES products thus far have been outstanding, the logs for this really sounds like they did it again!

 

[Rosie Chee]

Really looking forward to this one, all PES products thus far have been outstanding, the logs for this really sounds like they did it again!

Bolded = YES!

 

[Milas]

I sure hope so. I'm always skeptical of these new "prohormone killers" that claim to give the gains with no sides.

It really intrigues me that it can be run without affecting HPTA, I'm curious about the MOA, sounds more like nutrient partitioner more than anything I can place my finger on...

 

[Rosie Chee]

I sure hope so. I'm always skeptical of these new "prohormone killers" that claim to give the gains with no sides.

It really intrigues me that it can be run without affecting HPTA, I'm curious about the MOA, sounds more like nutrient partitioner more than anything I can place my finger on...

AnaBeta-01 has never claimed to be a "prohormone killer", so not sure where you got that from. In fact, there have been next-to-no claims made with this product - only feedback given from beta testers and loggers.

~Rosie~

 

[Milas]

I guess I misworded my statement, I didn't mean to insinuate that's how PES is marketing it. Really, they aren't "marketing" it, they're letting consumers draw their own conclusions. Obviously I tipped my hand at what conclusion I was drawing, but I shouldn't project my opinion as their claim. Good catch.

Regardless, that's how I interpret the "results" that have been reported, that it is a "natural" (though no info on compound has been released) supplement that provides significant gains with no sides. If there are "claims" that PES wants to make, I'm all ears!

I'm not baiting y'all at all, just very interested in learning more. I think Natty knows how I like to understand the MOAs. I'm also interested in how PES is going to position this in the market, from a business perspective.

Point taken Rosie, I'll be careful not to claim any claims for PES!

 

[fightbackhxc]

yeah i was trying to watch my carb intake and I realized when I didnt take in as many carbs it didnt quite work as well.

 

[Hawk]

Well, I love carbs so AnaBeta should be a perfect match!

Anxious to get my hands on some.

 

[T-Bone]

yeah i was trying to watch my carb intake and I realized when I didnt take in as many carbs it didnt quite work as well.

I took my first dose post workout on an empty stomach. I came pretty damn close to passing out!. I was shoveling carbs into my mouth like crazy for an hour straight before I started to feel better again. No way I could take this with a meal containing anything less than 30 carbs and even that is really pushing it. I'm only using it during my carb ups on The Metabolic Diet.

 

[Max32]

I took my first dose post workout on an empty stomach. I came pretty damn close to passing out!. I was shoveling carbs into my mouth like crazy for an hour straight before I started to feel better again. No way I could take this with a meal containing anything less than 30 carbs and even that is really pushing it. I'm only using it during my carb ups on The Metabolic Diet.

I wonder if there is a high grade extract of pterostilbene in here.... That is the only thing that has made me go extremely hypo before

 

[Milas]

Something that affects Ghrelin perhaps? Some sort of natural GHRP? That would explain quite a few of the symptoms, and would make for an outstanding supplement in PCT or anytime really (except maybe when cutting, though you could probably cut the dose in half and not get the hunger, like with GHRP-6)...

 

[Max32]

Something that affects Ghrelin perhaps? Some sort of natural GHRP? That would explain quite a few of the symptoms, and would make for an outstanding supplement in PCT or anytime really (except maybe when cutting, though you could probably cut the dose in half and not get the hunger, like with GHRP-6)...

To be honest, this sounds stronger than the ghrp/cjc combo.... At least based off what I have experienced

 

[nattydisaster]

AnaBeta-01 has never claimed to be a "prohormone killer", so not sure where you got that from. In fact, there have been next-to-no claims made with this product - only feedback given from beta testers and loggers.

~Rosie~

Exactly!!

Something that affects Ghrelin perhaps? Some sort of natural GHRP? That would explain quite a few of the symptoms, and would make for an outstanding supplement in PCT or anytime really (except maybe when cutting, though you could probably cut the dose in half and not get the hunger, like with GHRP-6)...

Ghrelin agonist, or things that have been shown to increase ghrelin, tend to also show they just make people fat. The studies done on ghrelin agonists and LBM gains show no significant increase in LBM

 

[AtomicFox]

I took my first dose post workout on an empty stomach. I came pretty damn close to passing out!. I was shoveling carbs into my mouth like crazy for an hour straight before I started to feel better again. No way I could take this with a meal containing anything less than 30 carbs and even that is really pushing it. I'm only using it during my carb ups on The Metabolic Diet.

Alright

How do you like it during your carb-up days then?

 

[T-Bone]

Alright

How do you like it during your carb-up days then?

Its good stuff AtomicFox. Really helps with reducing/eliminating bloat. Make sure to have a big ass sandwich or a pizza ready to go though!. Or whatever you want but make sure to eat enough carbs with your dose or you will end up dizzy. I definitely won't go a carb up without it now. Makes carb ups more enjoyable. Plus this way it will last me a lot longer.

 

[Mr.50]

See guys its strange because I frequently took my doses both with and without carbs.....I had good effects and no hypos and I am prone to hypos....

hmmmm

Mr.50