fyi......ATD is going bye-bye.
for sho' as in it wont be in there.This will have impact on the new DTP production?
for sho' as in it wont be in there.
Letters went out to companies as said above.
VERY similar profile, considering extemesean is an irreversible AI. Still I love the test boosting levels.I never thought ATD was DSHEA compliant in the first place... come strait from Extemesan (sp?)
Adams
6-bromo a case can be made for, but it was the only one of the AIs.... There is a particular species of mushroom that if grown in soil with the right amount of bromine salts in it will have 6-bromo as an extractable component of the mushroom.I never thought ATD was DSHEA compliant in the first place... come strait from Extemesan (sp?)
Adams
Nutra = sold out.Nutra-rush!
nothing like doing a bit of stocking up,sitting on it for a couple of months and doing a bit of e-bayingNutra-rush!
absolutely....why do you think we raze 18 year olds that take SDIf the FDA can ban things this easily, can they do the same to the pro hormones?
Just a matter of time.If the FDA can ban things this easily, can they do the same to the pro hormones?
the FDA didn't ban anything new, there is no criminalization of owning a bottle of Novedex-XT (like there is with a bottle of M1T). They are enforcing a law that companies use the grey area in to sell something listed as a "dietary supplement" that doesn't fit the definition of a "dietary supplement". But the way the law is written the FDA effectively has to send a letter (or show up) saying that they believe an ingredient in the product isn't a dietary supplement, and its up to the manufacturer at that point to prove that it does qualify, or stop selling it.If the FDA can ban things this easily, can they do the same to the pro hormones?
Good luck getting Pfizer, GlaxoSmithKline, etc. to jump off a cliff.this is some bullsh1t! the FDA needs to just jump off a bridge.
Agreed... I wouldn't be surprised if they find some way to take over the rights to ATD like they did with the Vitamin B-6 analogue... the exact one escapes me at the momentGood luck getting Pfizer, GlaxoSmithKline, etc. to jump off a cliff.
...Good luck getting Pfizer, GlaxoSmithKline, etc. to jump off a cliff.
I took an FDA centered food safety course last semester taught by a leading food microbiologist at my university and while I definitely am not a fan of the FDA, I learned a lot of people give them a bad rap that they don't necessarily deserve.The FDA says they don't have the time, money or resources to do any research on whether GMO foods are safe but they sure do have the time, money and resources to go out and ban all these supplements that effect a tiny proportion of the population, most of whom use responsibly. What a joke.
Interesting stuff.I took an FDA centered food safety course last semester taught by a leading food microbiologist at my university and while I definitely am not a fan of the FDA, I learned a lot of people give them a bad rap that they don't necessarily deserve.
*Whips out the marshmellows in anticipation of the flames coming*
IMO opinion the supplement industry should be grateful that it, for the most part, is largely self-regulated and has continued to stay, on a whole, very responsible from the corporate end. The DSHEA act could have been much harsher on the industry. Even though all the *good stuff* was banned, the industry was forced to innovate and has left all the politicians scratching their heads in trying to keep up with what is and isn't DSHEA compliant.
The FDA has a hard enough time, with its low budget, trying to keep the U.S. food supply industries incident free and as safe as they are. It doesn't have the resources to devote unbiased attention to the supplement industry which is why pharmaceutical lobbyists can have their hay-days. Throw into the mix the irresponsible companies trying to make a quick buck and idiots who don't know how to use labels and its easy to understand the low tolerance they have towards the supplement industry.
My opinion is that the supplement industry runs a fine line with the FDA. Everytime a screw up happens they take it as a sign of irresponsibility and go around with a DSHEA checklist trying to find everything that *violates* it. The supplement industry has done a very good internal job of maintaining product integrity, but IMO its a matter of time before crack down on a breakthrough, it just depends on how long their attention is diverted.
I agree, better start stocking up on your favorite supps.bastards.....this will begin a long year of bans/regulations/new levels of enforcement....
Pyridoxamine.Agreed... I wouldn't be surprised if they find some way to take over the rights to ATD like they did with the Vitamin B-6 analogue... the exact one escapes me at the moment
According to a letter from the FDA General Mills' advertising violates the federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act. The agency said claims that Cheerios ingredients can lower cholesterol within a certain amount of time, all while providing cancer-fighting and heart-healthy benefits, essentially makes Cheerios "a drug" by their definition. And no drug in this country can be legally marketed without an approved new drug application.
Any LG Reps have any info to share on this?
Our new M1D and Formadrol products don't contain ATD; this will only effect the products manufactured before 2009.Any LG Reps have any info to share on this?
When you have it, please give us a heads up.
Just unreal.
I'm sure there may be some cats from the FDA looking around.
Hey.. If you see this post I have to say I eat frosted wheats in the am, somtimes I change it up with cinnamon toast crunch. Other times I stack both and seem to have more energy.
Hmmm.
Might want too look into them.
JP.
Nice,Our new M1D and Formadrol products don't contain ATD; this will only effect the products manufactured before 2009.
Ditto.This blows, nothing else to say.....
The way the unelected government has been acting looks like you should be stocking up on multi's, creatine and apparently whole wheat Cheerio's too.Who's getting uber scared and feels like they need to stock up on designers?...
First they came for my M4OHN.
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“The FDA is responsible for taking action against any unsafe dietary supplement product after it reaches the market”. The key word is unsafe…there are more serious issues the FDA could be taking on opposed to the supplement community. I guess there is money to be made and the FDA has to “protect” us. Instead these shameful bastards are using some of our money and the G@# D@#* ignorance of politicians to go after these so called “underground” and “evil” supplement companies. Too bad our voices will never be heard and the ones who have the power to speak out are silenced by morons in the media along with uneducated politicians. What a waste of resources!
Spot on. Don't get me started on HFCS and poor diet leading to all sorts of diseases.Yup. Look how long it took them to even think about doing anything about transfats. Not to mention HFCS is linked to cancer and all kinds of maladies, but that's pumped into all kind of food on a day to day basis.
Hmmm.... 110,000 deaths each year from obesity related issues, but your attacking a supplement to assist athletic individuals?
The misplaced efforts are mind boggling.
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