No. They need to visit the adullt section
:icon_lol: :rofl:No. They need to visit the adullt section
Well I suppose since they dont show any caricatures of a diety then it is fair and balanced and nobel. Who I really feel sorry for is the minority (NOT MAJORITY) of Muslims who see the hypocrisy and ill-education of their own people. It must be so friggin embarrassing and frightening to live amongst such animals.Check out these cartoons by the Arabs.....
http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/ArabCartoons.htm
These people are fu*king crazy. Im starting to think they're a completley subset of the human race that just cant grasp the reality they live in.
BV
I really think the only way to stop these people is to kill them.
Seriously, this is the best idea that you guys can come up with?Unfortunately I agree. These people are spreading like a bad disease, and I think we need to wipe em out.
I don't think they really care if we close our doors to them. The majority of them never see a dime of American money, as the kings and leaders take all the money. Look at Arafat, Plaestinians going hungry, and he had how many billions of dollars stashed away in a Swiss bank account??? And most of the other factions are worse than him. I've said it before, any culture that would strap bombs to their children and send them off to blow up civillians, women, children...and become a so called martyr, well, they just don't put the same value on life as we do. It is a shame that there are peaceful Muslims that do not agree with this type of behavior. I would never suggest killing people because they belong to a certain religion. You selectively erradicate the ones that you know are terrorists. Too many innocent people are dying to continue to let them get away with this behavior.Seriously, this is the best idea that you guys can come up with?
Don't get me wrong, given the facts available throught the media, it's pretty clear that there are some cultures that just can't grasp the concept of modern civilization. However if we are going to stoop to their level, we may as well tattoo ourselves with 'hyprocrite' and flush our own civilization down the toilet.
IMO the west should have drawn a line in the sand and told the governements of these countries to fix the problem or they would close their doors to them, both socially and economically. Put the ball in their court. How long do you think the middle east would remain so cocky without the west buying their oil...
I totally agree with that, but that should have been the policy since the 70s. If the US had focused on developing an alternative energy source and getting us off the oil train, those crazies wouldnt have a pot to piss in.IMO the west should have drawn a line in the sand and told the governements of these countries to fix the problem or they would close their doors to them, both socially and economically. Put the ball in their court. How long do you think the middle east would remain so cocky without the west buying their oil...
if only the 99% muslim have the gut to tell that 1% muslim to STFU... that would have taken care of the situation, wouldn't it?
That's why they need to be put down like the deranged animals they are.no it wouldnt....i can say it from experience i am a soldier in the US army and i am currently in Iraq.....so believe me when i say majority dosnt rule but the men with guns do.....there all terrified of the 1% because that 1% will have no hesetation in taking out the 99%......they are that extreme
True, the majority don't see a dime but the ones calling the shots do as well as those equiping the militias (ie Arafat and Hussein). You can bet they would change their tune if the money taps were turned off. Anyhow, the Iraq war is costing a lot of money as well as soldiers' lives. Personally I would rather see that region sealed off and watch it self destruct instead. Better to give up one's gas guzzler and air conditioner than your neighbour to a casualty of war.I don't think they really care if we close our doors to them. The majority of them never see a dime of American money, as the kings and leaders take all the money. Look at Arafat, Plaestinians going hungry, and he had how many billions of dollars stashed away in a Swiss bank account??? And most of the other factions are worse than him. I've said it before, any culture that would strap bombs to their children and send them off to blow up civillians, women, children...and become a so called martyr, well, they just don't put the same value on life as we do. It is a shame that there are peaceful Muslims that do not agree with this type of behavior. I would never suggest killing people because they belong to a certain religion. You selectively erradicate the ones that you know are terrorists. Too many innocent people are dying to continue to let them get away with this behavior.
I agree - but now its like trying to stop a house fire when you just had to be sure to throw the match in the sink Better late than never, I guess. That's one reason why I hope the price of gas stays high - as long oil is costing people money, there will be an incentive to stop using it.Like BV said, policies did need to be changed in the 70's to have been most effective but I still think that it's never to late to make a change for the better.
Sheeit if 9/11 had happened in 1950 the mideast would be the training ground for the next Martian landingAmerican leaders from 60 years ago (and Reagan) would have wiped these morons off the planet by now.
Not at all. 1) the KKK aren't burning embassies 2) The ratio of KKK to innocent Americans is so small it isn't even worth mentioningThat would be like China coming over here and taking out the KKK.
Yeah, it was a bad analogy - but you know what I meant. The KKK is a tiny minority *because* most Americans dont tolerate that hateful BS. So where's the Muslim counterpart? Why do the 'peaceful minority' refuse to do anything about these people spreading their mantra like a disease?Not at all. 1) the KKK aren't burning embassies 2) The ratio of KKK to innocent Americans is so small it isn't even worth mentioning
I see your point, but that is not a good analogy of the situation. I think we have been trained to believe, because of politically correctness, that "only a small minority think like that." Well then the VAST MAJORITY better get their small minority under control, before we have to handle it ourselves. If those "peaceful muslims" would do something we'd be getting somewhere. The KKK isn't tolerated in America by most people, the same should be said for these islamo-fascists in the middle east.
The cartoon wasn't offensive, it was dead on correct. Evidence: Look how those morons are acting now. They proved what the cartoon was implying.Apparently the Danish paper which caused the whole issue had previously refused to print lampooning cartoons of Jesus because they felt it was 'too offensive'.
?? The paper didn't print cartoons of Jesus on grounds that they were too offensive but somehow felt some Muslim satire was fit for printing as an exercise of free speech.The cartoon wasn't offensive, it was dead on correct. Evidence: Look how those morons are acting now. They proved what the cartoon was implying.
I doubt they were expecting this. Lots of satyrical cartoons are put out all over the world at any given time about all sorts of people / religions / etc. None of this is their fault in the least. They're not responsible for anything.Of course not. But what were they expecting? Lots of laughs and a friendly punch to the shoulder?
And why would you assume the Jesus cartoons were worse? And would it matter then if the core issue is free speech?
Of course not. But what were they expecting? Lots of laughs and a friendly punch to the shoulder?
And why would you assume the Jesus cartoons were worse? And would it matter then if the core issue is free speech?
you think American Muslims will be rioting/suicide bombing?But, unfortunately, I think this isn't going to be the case for too much longer.
Spitboy - I'm hardly blaming the 'West' or supporting the protesters.......
The core issue is freedom of speech, and nothing else matters as far as the organization responsible for publishing the cartoons goes. They can pick and choose to put out whatever information they would like in that regard.
Now, slightly off topic, IMO the press should stick to the news, and try not to let their personal feelings get involved with anything they report. That's the standard I believe the press should hold itself to. I just don't believe we should be telling the press what and what not to publish.
I think its disgusting...people hold 'other people' to a whole different standard. If American Christians were to riot like this in response to a cartoon published 6,000 miles away, I guarantee nobody would be coming to their defense.
Spitboy - I'm hardly blaming the 'West' or supporting the protesters.
I just brought up an interesting observation that the editors decided that cartoons lampooning Jesus were apparently too offensive.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060208/wl_nm/religion_cartoons_denmark_jesus_dc
"Zieler's five colored cartoons portrayed Jesus jumping out of holes in floors and walls during his resurrection. In one, gnomes rated Jesus for style, another entitled "Saviour-cam" showed Jesus with a camera on his head staring at his feet."
And from what it sounds, its rather tame.
My point is exactly that. The editors have greater sensitivity towards Christians. And I should have made that clear on this conservative board.Then what is your point MarcusG? What are you trying to say? Does it in any way impact the fact that hundreds of thousands of insanely enraged radical Islamists are burning down embassies, threatening beheadings in the streets of Western capitals, etc etc? Without making a point, your observation seems to support the Islamists argument that it is the poor Muslims that are being targeted by a vicious West.
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Can you provide a reputable source of this information??? The paper didn't print cartoons of Jesus on grounds that they were too offensive but somehow felt some Muslim satire was fit for printing as an exercise of free speech.
Read my posts or google. Reuters reported it.Can you provide a reputable source of this information?
I should have clarified. Loose immigration standards will play a role as well--mostly from religious leaders coming in.you think American Muslims will be rioting/suicide bombing?
In London, a peaceful protest is going to be held this weekend. Nothing wrong with a peaceful protest if you ask me. And I PRAY that they don't start rioting, because then they're just proving the point of the cartoon! Then they'll really feel like idiots after they realize the irony!
Yes being a longtime member, I know the makeup of this board and had a slight expectation of being associated with islamofascists for making a straightforward observation.kwycke, I dont see it happening. People have too many things to live for here. We have different values here. We emphasize family and money in the USA, not religion. I guess that's why it's so hard for me to understand where these extremists are coming from.
hey Marcus G, this IS a very conservative board... although good for bodybuilding :hammer:
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But Al-Jazerra doesn't have a problem printing cartoons about the Jews and the Americans. Do you think we should start beheading all Muslims because the terrorists print obscene cartoons about us? I believe in "sticks and stones"....I could care less what they print, even though it is in poor taste. But hit me with a stick, or throw a stone at me, I'll tear your heart out and feed it to you.Apparently the Danish paper which caused the whole issue had previously refused to print lampooning cartoons of Jesus because they felt it was 'too offensive'.
Yes being a longtime member, I know the makeup of this board and had a slight expectation of being associated with islamofascists for making a straightforward observation.
And as you can see, I got pounded by neg rep. A useful tool to enforce self-censorship on this board.
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