well thanks guys i appreciate the input....regarding the supps, i just want to keep making gains and since hgh up is for hgh i figured it woudl not effect the testosterone and also neovar is jsut creatine so i dont see how that would really effect my issue.......but i do want to find otu whats wrong........
You could probably get away with the creatine, but regular creatine monohydrate would have worked better and been much cheaper than those pills. Anything that would truly raise GH would be degraded by stomach acid if it were taken orally, so there is no oral product that can raise GH. Only injected peptides can do that.
Can't find out what is really in ECDY, so you wouldn't want to risk taking that and screwing up any blood work that might tell a doctor how to fix your problem.
Next time come and ask about those products before you buy them unless you just have unlimited funds you don't mind throwing away. And, if that is the case, I can supply you an account number you can just deposit those funds into.