Reserved for when it arrives. Just ordered and will be comparing to oral epicatechin
No , thank you been wanting to try epichaos for a while and the apex line. Lithos is next and considering arimihex .Oh, nice. Thanks for logging!
You're making me excited now, lol.I logged this product awhile back. Definitely experience additional vascularity and leaning from this. Much more pronounced than oral Epi products. I was able to maintain my strength despite being on a 3-400 calorie deficit.
Glad to have youInterested in feedback.
yeah oral Epi is only good if it is dosed high and mixed with a quality absorption agent. Unfortunately most companies do not do this which makes this product great. A bottle lasted me a good 40 or so days as well which was nice.You're making me excited now, lol.
I had those results but only when I dosed the epicatechin up to at least, 1g which caused me to run out quick.
Agreed. I barely notice epi at anything dosed under 500. Maybe a lil bit of pump and endurance, but nothing drastic. At 800- 1 gram, it's definitely potent.yeah oral Epi is only good if it is dosed high and mixed with a quality absorption agent. Unfortunately most companies do not do this which makes this product great. A bottle lasted me a good 40 or so days as well which was nice.
Well, that sounds like a great stack but I’m doing epichaos to compare with other oral Epicatechin products I have ran. I used cel epi plex and SNS/CEL makes great products but I wished they’d dose the epi a little high per serving . SNS vaso6 is insane thoughI highly suggest the following stack:
Epichaos
CEL Epi-Plex
SNS Vasoforce
BMP
Agreed that sounds like a killer stack!I highly suggest the following stack:
Epichaos
CEL Epi-Plex
SNS Vasoforce
BMP
This is interesting, has anyone else reported this type of effect? I'd be interested in the mechanism.Epicatechin is definitely kicking in . Getting that “look” again. IBS symptoms are starting to reduce. (always happens when I high dose epicat) and nutrients feel partitioned
And yes, @Brutefit, the endurance kicked yesterday.
I did 100 reps on the hack squat (in various sets)
And 70 (in various sets, both light and heavy pyramids)
Easily did this plus my other exercises and wasn’t getting tired.
Today was pull day and I destroyed it . Pumps, fullness , endurance , etc.
Vascularity is also kicking in like crazyyy
Using 20 sprays currently
I can say , with all transdermals, you feel it immediately . Much more efficient than the oral route
I decided to hit the tanning bed for some vit d as winter has destroyed me this year. Ended up going too long. That’s why I’m read FYI
Thanks LEAN engineer , means a lot bro. I got gym pics yesterday but I didn’t like the way they turned out. I’ll try and get some better ones todayNice! You have to be pretty lean to get the ab veins!
No clue why, but I get a positive GDA effect when I high dose Epicatechin. I just feel less “full”. That’s ALL Epicatechin. I just notice it around 1g with the oral and that gets expensive. With TD, I’m runnninf a total of 20 sprays which I believe is only 200mgThis is interesting, has anyone else reported this type of effect? I'd be interested in the mechanism.
Best supplement I’ve usedin on the log
ive only taken cel epi plex and loved it .. in to see how TD treats
That's what I was planning. I'd like to get some more oral epicatechin and bmp eventually. If anyone can give me a deal on both , if anyone has them, I'd be interested.Stack oral Epi with TD. 600mg Epi Plex should be enough combined with the 20 sprays of Epichaos. If you want to get freaky, add BMP to the mix.
God bless, friend. I am trying to create something incredible and am very disciplined to my goals. Haven't cheated from the path for a long time.What are you, like 3%!!?? Incredible diet discipline dude!!!
How long is your Epichaos bottle seem to be lasting? I don’t count sprays but I usually get about 10 days a bottle.That's what I was planning. I'd like to get some more oral epicatechin and bmp eventually. If anyone can give me a deal on both , if anyone has them, I'd be interested.
However, this log was kind of just a comparison as I;ve ran oral epi before. The TD kicks faster but feels just like epi.
Only 10 days ? How many sprays were you using ? Seems to be 3/4 fullHow long is your Epichaos bottle seem to be lasting? I don’t count sprays but I usually get about 10 days a bottle.
I dose 2x a day. One spray on each top of foot. I then lather my arms, shoulders and upper chest. One spray on each top of hand. This lasts me 10 days.Only 10 days ? How many sprays were you using ? Seems to be 3/4 full
Damn , I’ve been using 20 sprays lolI dose 2x a day. One spray on each top of foot. I then lather my arms, shoulders and upper chest. One spray on each top of hand. This lasts me 10 days.
Brutal . I know I wish I had more mass too lolBro... please eat some Food.
You are good bro you look great just eat more food.Brutal . I know I wish I had more mass too lol
I don’t like my look but I got to show in logs
Kinda considered dirty bulking but my digestive issues would hate me