anyone done a stack with epi??

[wanaBJacked]

quick question.

for my next cycle that I'm going to start in 3 weeks is going to be Havoc. I'm trying to cut and want to stack it with something un methylated. I've read a furuza product is good or p-stanz. just not sure. any suggestions would be great.

not sure about dosing because it depends of whether i'm going to run epi solo or not

stats are

23
5'10
186lbs
10%bf want to drop to 9 or 8 before I start.

I am going to preload with cel cycle asst and use it through out pct .
I'm already taking triflex for my joints
for pct going to use tamaxifen 40/40/20/20, erase, and daa, thinking about adding 6oxo if that's necessary

 

[Husker89]

trenavar

quick question.

for my next cycle that I'm going to start in 3 weeks is going to be Havoc. I'm trying to cut and want to stack it with something un methylated. I've read a furuza product is good or p-stanz. just not sure. any suggestions would be great.

not sure about dosing because it depends of whether i'm going to run epi solo or not

stats are

23
5'10
186lbs
10%bf want to drop to 9 or 8 before I start.

I am going to preload with cel cycle asst and use it through out pct .
I'm already taking triflex for my joints
for pct going to use tamaxifen 40/40/20/20, erase, and daa, thinking about adding 6oxo if that's necessary

 

[LiveToLift]

5aohp would work good for a cut stack.

 

[mattrag]

5aohp would work good for a cut stack.

Not so sure on this as I thought 5aohp was a dht precursor. This would be one dry cycle. But if you can handle it it'll be really lean.

 

[bigred6347]

im going to be running a epi/trenazone stack starting in about 10 days. real excited about it.

 

[chocolatemilk]

I'd say trenavar... most promising non methyl for big gains

 

[Eric160]

trenazone sounds like the way to go

 

[BeastMode 1]

your pct doses are hi

20/20/10/10

 

[abformulations]

I'm going with Epi and stano drol and looking to add something else maybe trenazone or faruza. Obviously it's for a Recomp. Never used trenazone or faruza.

 

[wanaBJacked]

Would trenavar help with a cut?

I'd say trenavar... most promising non methyl for big gains

 

[Husker89]

i wouldnt do epi/furuza/and stano thats kinda crazy lol. Run epi trenavar and maybe last 4 weeks high dosed stano or furuza

I'm going with Epi and stano drol and looking to add something else maybe trenazone or faruza. Obviously it's for a Recomp. Never used trenazone or faruza.

 

[wanaBJacked]

oh are they? i thought tomoxifen citarte doesnt absorb as well as real nolva so it was suppose to be around there

your pct doses are hi

20/20/10/10

 

[BeastMode 1]

I'm going with Epi and stano drol and looking to add something else maybe trenazone or faruza. Obviously it's for a Recomp. Never used trenazone or faruza.

Im doin epi+stano+11oXo.
Furuza is similar to 11oxo except is that furuz is supposed to help more with overall bf, whereas the 11oxo targets abs and chest(visceral fat)

 

[abformulations]

i wouldnt do epi/furuza/and stano thats kinda crazy lol. Run epi trenavar and maybe last 4 weeks high dosed stano or furuza

I figured it was to much lol. I think I'll go with epi and stano for 6 weeks and save trenavar (which I don't have lol) for another cycle. I brought it up bcause I read some where someone was doing that cycle.

 

[BeastMode 1]

oh are they? i thought tomoxifen citarte doesnt absorb as well as real nolva so it was suppose to be around there

some people go up to 40mg(for stronger compounds), but for a somewhat mild epi stack, 20 should be fine.

 

[BeastMode 1]

i wouldnt do epi/furuza/and stano thats kinda crazy lol. Run epi trenavar and maybe last 4 weeks high dosed stano or furuza

i dont think a stack of 3 mild compounds(only one of which is methyl) is crazy at all.

 

[wanaBJacked]

I think this would be a little rough on the joint for me. would get cut as hell but would be painful near the end

Not so sure on this as I thought 5aohp was a dht precursor. This would be one dry cycle. But if you can handle it it'll be really lean.

 

[wanaBJacked]

gotcha, you think for the first 3 days for to 40 then drop to 20?

some people go up to 40mg(for stronger compounds), but for a somewhat mild epi stack, 20 should be fine.

 

[wanaBJacked]

have you ever used 11 oxo? my friend used it and he said it didnt do anything. i'm not sure about his dosing though.

Im doin epi+stano+11oXo.
Furuza is similar to 11oxo except is that furuz is supposed to help more with overall bf, whereas the 11oxo targets abs and chest(visceral fat)

 

[Husker89]

3 dht based compounds was my concern and that furuza alone has such drastic changes on hdl/ldl levels it seems excessive, uneeded, and just stupid. Methylation(liver) isnt the only health concern, and you dont need that epi by itself is awesome, much less both stano and furuza??? but keep giving ****ty advice

i dont think a stack of 3 mild compounds(only one of which is methyl) is crazy at all.

 

[BeastMode 1]

gotcha, you think for the first 3 days for to 40 then drop to 20?

perhaps for a 3-5 days. i usually stick with 20, but you Could start with 40.

i have more experience with clomid then nolva personally. Maybe a pct expert can chime in and answer whether starting with 40 for a few days would be benefical? or just overkill for a mild cycle?

 

[wanaBJacked]

what's your dosing going to be?

im going to be running a epi/trenazone stack starting in about 10 days. real excited about it.

 

[Husker89]

read the sticky pct why how what

perhaps for a 3-5 days. i usually stick with 20, but you Could start with 40.

i have more experience with clomid then nolva personally. Maybe a pct expert can chime in and answer whether starting with 40 for a few days would be benefical? or just overkill for a mild cycle?

 

[Husker89]

thats what you should run

what's your dosing going to be?

 

[Drizzie88]

quick question.

for my next cycle that I'm going to start in 3 weeks is going to be Havoc. I'm trying to cut and want to stack it with something un methylated. I've read a furuza product is good or p-stanz. just not sure. any suggestions would be great.

not sure about dosing because it depends of whether i'm going to run epi solo or not

stats are

23
5'10
186lbs
10%bf want to drop to 9 or 8 before I start.

I am going to preload with cel cycle asst and use it through out pct .
I'm already taking triflex for my joints
for pct going to use tamaxifen 40/40/20/20, erase, and daa, thinking about adding 6oxo if that's necessary

Mate your states are nearly identical to mine before I started Epi... Check out my log...I'm three weeks in and sitting at 193

 

[BeastMode 1]

3 dht based compounds was my concern and that furuza alone has such drastic changes on hdl/ldl levels it seems excessive, uneeded, and just stupid. Methylation(liver) isnt the only health concern, and you dont need that epi by itself is awesome, much less both stano and furuza??? but keep giving ****ty advice

lmfao. ok, you go ahead and run your epi standalone at like 20mg for 3.5 weeks prolly.
when you try some stronger stacks, ull eventually need more to match that "on" feeling. i didnt suggest anything unhealthy. i get bloods for any cycle, regardless of compounds, mgs, or cycle lengths

 

[Husker89]

man I would never run epi at 20 mg for 3.5 weeks thats retartded but as you see listed above some user ran epi solo higher dosed im sure and had great results with just epi. These are steroids man not candies. The guy says he had awesome results with only 1 compound. You dont always need three compound when one or two will do, especially 3 hdt based man. Good for you on getting bloods btw

lmfao. ok, you go ahead and run your epi standalone at like 20mg for 3.5 weeks prolly.
when you try some stronger stacks, ull eventually need more to match that "on" feeling. i didnt suggest anything unhealthy. i get bloods for any cycle, regardless of compounds, mgs, or cycle lengths

 

[wanaBJacked]

will do thanks man.

Mate your states are nearly identical to mine before I started Epi... Check out my log...I'm three weeks in and sitting at 193

 

[BeastMode 1]

have you ever used 11 oxo? my friend used it and he said it didnt do anything. i'm not sure about his dosing though.

he prolly only dosed it at like 225. no, i havent used it yet, starting my cycle in bout 2 weeks. most say 600-900 yields great results. im gonna start at 600 and taper up

 

[wanaBJacked]

let me know how you like it

he prolly only dosed it at like 225. no, i havent used it yet, starting my cycle in bout 2 weeks. most say 600-900 yields great results. im gonna start at 600 and taper up

 

[wanaBJacked]

Ya i'm really considering it just I know less about tren than i do with something like furuza which means I know nothing lol. and I am not going to take something without knowing as much as i can about it.
Are you suggesting trenazone or trenavar?

thats what you should run

 

[jbryand101b]

I'd say trenavar... most promising non methyl for big gains

Did you run it yet cm?

 

[jbryand101b]

Epi 30-40mg weeks 1-6
trenazone weeks 4-8
Fura weeks 7-10

Bam.

 

[Drizzie88]

Epi 30-40mg weeks 1-6
trenazone weeks 4-8
Fura weeks 7-10

Bam.

I'm running Epi/katanadrol right now...think I can throw in some trenazone towards the end?

 

[jbryand101b]

I'm running Epi/katanadrol right now...think I can throw in some trenazone towards the end?

Sure

 

[Drizzie88]

Sure

Man... I think I might! I've got stood pct set up so think 10 wks would be ok... What about 12..

Epi wk 1-6
KDrol wk 3-8
Trenazone wk 7-12 or 6-11???

 

[bigred6347]

epi 30/40/40/40/40/40

trenazone 1/1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5

might bump the tren to 2ml the last two weeks, ive read that alot of guys are getting great results with it at that dose.

 

[wanaBJacked]

thanks alot for your input man.

what're you doing for pct?

epi 30/40/40/40/40/40

trenazone 1/1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5

might bump the tren to 2ml the last two weeks, ive read that alot of guys are getting great results with it at that dose.

 

[wanaBJacked]

why only running tren for 4 weeks? I'm just wondering because I have not done much research on tren products yet.

Epi 30-40mg weeks 1-6
trenazone weeks 4-8
Fura weeks 7-10

Bam.

 

[bigred6347]

going to use clomid, my first time with clomid but it seems the right choice with this cycle.

 

[jbryand101b]

why only running tren for 4 weeks? I'm just wondering because I have not done much research on tren products yet.

Cause all your money is going to be spent on the fura and epi

 

[wanaBJacked]

I thought about using clmoid but I have 2 bottles of tomax so i figured i'd use them up.

going to use clomid, my first time with clomid but it seems the right choice with this cycle.

 

[wanaBJacked]

Ya i noticed that fura products add up because you need to dose high that's one main reason i started this thread because i wanted to see what else i could stack havoc with. is the only reason cash or do you get better results by finishing with fura instead of tren? I mean I've already invested a lot with pct, and supporting sups so if its an extra few bucks for extra results I'd rather fork out the cash

Cause all your money is going to be spent on the fura and epi

 

[jbryand101b]

It'd be best to stack the epi with tren, and finish with a high dose of fura, like 400mg

 

[wanaBJacked]

ok cool i'll look into that.well thank you for your input man

It'd be best to stack the epi with tren, and finish with a high dose of fura, like 400mg