swirvin1
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Not for PCT. just as a test booster
Is your test low or are you having symptoms? If yes then like said above but if your test is anywhere in the normal and your not having problems then it will do nothing for youNot for PCT. just as a test booster
Good, I didn't have to be the ******* today ???Lol at super clomid
I got your back homieGood, I didn't have to be the ******* today ������
Y'all need to get this at PRE asapLol at super clomid
Very true. Will work on sourcing this. It’s actually just a partial molecule of clomid so shouldn’t be tough to acquire.Y'all need to get this at PRE asap
No SuPRE ClomidWe should call it....
SUPER CLOMID lololololol
I thought maybe ol came out with SUP3R C10MIDWe should call it....
SUPER CLOMID lololololol
Come on bro, they would have at least 5 more numbers in that title.I thought maybe ol came out with SUP3R C10MID
I herd a couple reps left because the math was getting too complicated for bodybuildersCome on bro, they would have at least 5 more numbers in that title.
LMAO!I herd a couple reps left because the math was getting too complicated for bodybuilders
need more 4's and 5's and less 1's... i can only add platesI herd a couple reps left because the math was getting too complicated for bodybuilders
That's why I stopped buying thier stuff. It's hard enough to count repsI herd a couple reps left because the math was getting too complicated for bodybuilders
what about those who did both hahahaThanks for the help to those that helped. For those that trolled, **** you.
its the clomid, broYou said something funny and some jokes were cracked all in good fun, don't be so sensitive
You got your answer first response so what more do you want. Don’t mind divulging more info...Thanks for the help to those that helped. For those that trolled, **** you.
Please elaborate. Are you hypogonadal? Or are you within range and looking for an edge in the gym? The more info you give me the more I can give you in return.Not for PCT. just as a test booster
You are completely correct bro my apologies.No he didn't. He was not asking about clomiphene but enclomiphene
Clomid, or enclomiphene?I swear by it for pct and as a test booster. I’m super sensitive to the emotional sides of clomid even as low as 12.mg. I take .2 ml. daily of a solution containing 25mg/ml. I’ve had bloods drawn twice and tested once at 839 and the second at 845 while I normally test in the high 400’s to low 500’s. Can’t feel any emotional sides, great recovery, great energy. If you do the math that’s 5mg. per day and very affordable.
Enclomiphene.Clomid, or enclomiphene?
i know im reviving a really old thread but why will enclo do nothing for you if your test is within normal? im in the upper 300s and was hoping it would boost me up a couple hundred points for better growth and recovery...Is your test low or are you having symptoms? If yes then like said above but if your test is anywhere in the normal and your not having problems then it will do nothing for you
It Could raise your Test some (still within range).i know im reviving a really old thread but why will enclo do nothing for you if your test is within normal? im in the upper 300s and was hoping it would boost me up a couple hundred points for better growth and recovery...
In my experience, enclo always increases my total test from ~500 to ~800 and my free test a minimal amount. Give it a try off cycle with before/after bloodwork.It Could raise you Test some (still within range).
thanks guys, im on the lookout for potential eye side effects but ill try and see what happens. also using with Hyperion in the hopes that will free up some test from shbg.In my experience, enclo always increases my total test from ~500 to ~800 and my free test a minimal amount. Give it a try off cycle with before/after bloodwork.
You actually agreed with my comment...In my experience, enclo always increases my total test from ~500 to ~800 and my free test a minimal amount. Give it a try off cycle with before/after bloodwork.
Can’t speak for Enclo but regular Clomid used to boost my test from upper 400’s to upper 900’s as a “Test booster” (not as PCT). Definitely enough to feel a difference.i know im reviving a really old thread but why will enclo do nothing for you if your test is within normal? im in the upper 300s and was hoping it would boost me up a couple hundred points for better growth and recovery...
i appreciate the testimonial. i love this site but sometimes hard to tell what's what with all the contradictory bro-scienceCan’t speak for Enclo but regular Clomid used to boost my test from upper 400’s to upper 900’s as a “Test booster” (not as PCT). Definitely enough to feel a difference.
I don't know where this conversation started but I'm sure there was more to it then the part quoted. It will raise your natural testosterone. If your test is 300 and you get it up in the 600's which is very possible then you would probably see a different. If someone is in the high normal range of 700+ (which the scales are bullshit) but if you go from 800 to 1000, you would most likely not notice anything.i know im reviving a really old thread but why will enclo do nothing for you if your test is within normal? im in the upper 300s and was hoping it would boost me up a couple hundred points for better growth and recovery...
That's somewhat a high dose, for a longer time period at least. Equals to 80 mg of Clomid, in terms of Enclomiphene content. The EOD protocol seems weird with the short half life (10 h IIRC). But since he's doing well and working with an Endo, then all good I'll presume. Just some thoughts, that popped to mind. The 12.5 mg / day is pretty common dosing protocol for what I've seen people do and I have done that for PCT myself as well with good results.My FIL was started on Enclomiphene by his Endo/hormone specialist. I believe he’s doing 50mg EOD and his levels have went from 600 to >1200. Pretty amazing results for him, but I believe that to be an exception. Intending on starting myself off at 12.5mg Daily and go from there.
Even with a 10 hour half life it's gonna be in your system for a few (4) days. There was someone at my boxing gym I was talking too but there taking 12.5mg with a half cup of grapefruit juice every other day and there getting good results. Take it with a grain of salt because there not doing bloodwork and there going by feel. And by good results all im saying is they feel good, no noticeable dip in libido or energy going from trt 100mg to 25mg enclo eod with grapefruit and now 12.5 eod with grapefruit. He wanted to stop the shots because his Dr. Was doing the shots for him. 200mg every 2 weeks was the original trt and he hates going in for all the visits.That's somwehat a high dose, for a longer time period at least. Equals to 80 mg of Clomid, in terms of Enclomiphene content. The EOD protocol seems weird with the short half life (10 h IIRC). But since he's doing well and working with an Endo, then all good I'll presume. Just some thoughts, that popped to mind. The 12.5 mg / day is pretty common dosing protocol for what I've seen people do and I have done that for PCT myself as well with good results.
Ok. Yeah, I've heard of people doing 12.5 mg ED and at some point tapering to 12.5 mg EOD. I'm actually going to try tapering my now extended PCT like that. It's just the 50 mg EOD that seems weird to me. I would think 25 mg ED to maybe be a better approach with the 10 h half life. But it may not matter in practice.Even with a 10 hour half life it's gonna be in your system for a few (4) days. There was someone at my boxing gym I was talking too but there taking 12.5mg with a half cup of grapefruit juice every other day and there getting good results. Take it with a grain of salt because there not doing bloodwork and there going by feel. And by good results all im saying is they feel good, no noticeable dip in libido or energy going from trt 100mg to 25mg enclo eod with grapefruit and now 12.5 eod with grapefruit. He wanted to stop the shots because his Dr. Was doing the shots for him. 200mg every 2 weeks was the original trt and he hates going in for all the visits.
I believe his goal is to use this as a temporary bridge/break because it's definitely not a long term sustainable replacement for testosterone if yiu actually need testosterone.
50 eod was a common protocol for clomid. My guess is the Dr. Don't know the difference and put them on the clomid protocol. But I would guess daily is still the way to go.Ok. Yeah, I've heard of people doing 12.5 mg ED and at some point tapering to 12.5 mg EOD. I'm actually going to try tapering my now extended PCT like that. It's just the 50 mg EOD that seems weird to me. I would think 25 mg ED to maybe be a better approach with the 10 h half life. But it may not matter in practice.
What bro-science? Clomid is proven in medical settings to boost test levels. I got my Clomid from a Dr to raise my test levels and it did (temporarily).i appreciate the testimonial. i love this site but sometimes hard to tell what's what with all the contradictory bro-science
just meant in general on this site like every forum there are lots of contradictory anecdotes and opinions but that's to be expected since so much of this is based on individual responses. thanks for your comments guys, super helpfulWhat bro-science? Clomid is proven in medical settings to boost test levels. I got my Clomid from a Dr to raise my test levels and it did (temporarily).
I know it’s a lot “bro science” around but you quoted my reply so I so would like to know what you thought was so “bro science and hard to tell what’s what” with my reply?just meant in general on this site like every forum there are lots of contradictory anecdotes and opinions but that's to be expected since so much of this is based on individual responses. thanks for your comments guys, super helpful
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